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Hobby Lobby decides they're a religion instead of a business, so they don't have to answer to the government, just God.

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#3

Hobby Lobby decides they're a religion instead of a business, so they don't have to answer to the government, just God.

The sick thing is, this would make my mom and a bunch of other people I know happy. They are encouraging people to shop there. Fortunately, there isn't one in my area.
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#5

Hobby Lobby decides they're a religion instead of a business, so they don't have to answer to the government, just God.

Exactly. I was pointing that out to my mom, but she didn't care. She kept saying they were brave for risking their business. Then I know those morons would blame going out of business on Obama. I already know that would happen.
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#7

Hobby Lobby decides they're a religion instead of a business, so they don't have to answer to the government, just God.

I didn't think businesses were protected under "religious freedom" laws, only individuals or religious organizations.

So the line between businesses and religious organizations is being called into question yet again.

Bet this one ends up with the U.S. Supreme Court.
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#9

Hobby Lobby decides they're a religion instead of a business, so they don't have to answer to the government, just God.

It's always worth pointing out the Hobby Lobby had absolutely no issue covering abortion and reproductive health services in their insurance plan until that damn Obama told them they had to. That is the only reason they actually looked at what their insurance plan was providing and took a moral stand. A long read but a good one.

"Hobby Lobby has got its bedazzlers all fired up for Jesus — except when it comes to actually making sure that its insurance policies didn’t already cover what it falsely calls “abortion-inducing drugs.” Like Wheaton College, Hobby Lobby’s claimed religious fervor is belied by its failure to perfectly adhere to its purported religious tenets.

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"Recently after learning about the nationally prominent HHS mandate controversy, Hobby Lobby re-examined its insurance policies to ensure they continued to be consistent with its faith. During that re-examination, Hobby Lobby discovered that the formulary for its prescription drug policy included two drugs—Plan B and Ella— that could cause an abortion. Coverage of these drugs was not included knowingly or deliberately by the Green family. Such coverage is out of step with the rest of Hobby Lobby’s policies, which explicitly exclude abortion-causing contraceptive devices and pregnancy-termination drugs. Hobby Lobby therefore immediately excluded the inconsistent drugs from its policies.”

As with Wheaton College, it seems that Hobby Lobby saw fit to ramp up its religious fervor only when it became politically expedient to do so. As such, Hobby Lobby’s complaints about religious freedom ring as hollow as they do false."

It wasn't against their religions beliefs to provide abortion services and contraception until they found out they were required to do it. Then it was an affront to Jesus.
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#10

Hobby Lobby decides they're a religion instead of a business, so they don't have to answer to the government, just God.

As we all know government is God

I wonder how something that offended the Muslim religion would be handled if it ran afoul of government regs.

Those who voted for Obamacare in NY are finding out one provision calls for certain taxes on makers of medical equipment will cost 49 000 jobs. It will also inrease insurance rates. It might have helped had they actually read it before voting yes. Than again who had time to read a phone book sized bil

Once it is fully implemented more and more people will experience buyers remorse.They will than realize how much it will really end up costing them You reelected Mr Obama so enjoy yourself.
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#16

Hobby Lobby decides they're a religion instead of a business, so they don't have to answer to the government, just God.

They won. Hobby Lobby decides they're a religion instead of a business, so they don't have to answer to the government, just God.

Love how businesses are allowed to do this and they don't consider themselves bullies. But, anyone who is for anything against their beliefs or who hates intolerance based on sexual orientation are.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/chrisgeidner/supreme-court-rules-in-favor-of-hobby-lobby?bftw=main&s=mobile

This was posted from my phone, so if the link doesn't work, I apologize. I've never copied or pasted on it before.
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#21

Hobby Lobby decides they're a religion instead of a business, so they don't have to answer to the government, just God.

Exactly.

"On that point, Justice Ginsburg, joined by Justice Sonia Sotomayor, said the court’s decision 'is bound to have untoward effects' in other settings.

“'The court’s expansive notion of corporate personhood,' Justice Ginsburg wrote, 'invites for-profit entities to seek religion-based exemptions from regulations they deem offensive to their faiths.'”
#22

Hobby Lobby decides they're a religion instead of a business, so they don't have to answer to the government, just God.

No, Kad. You need to go even further. It was only applied to four contraceptives. That's it.

While this is a loss for women's rights groups, I'd only call it an extremely narrow or minimal win for Hobby Lobby and the two other suing parties. The opinion is very clear to state this ruling can only be applied to the four contraceptives in question (including Plan B) and only for closely held corporations with longstanding religious beliefs. The bar to meet this will be extremely high. It's not practically significant, but is politically and socially significant.

Other corporations will attempt to use this ruling in their favor in future lawsuits. Most nonpartisan and unbiased analysts agree, however, that it will not work because of how narrow the ruling is.

ETA: folks on the right are popping the champagne. Give me a break. Folks on the left are already trying to use scare tactics. Give me a break. Both sides are acting ridiculously.

Updated On: 6/30/14 at 12:41 PM

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