Good point, Weez! And just sayin', I know a couple I like to call "Gay Man with a Wife," and THEY have two kids too.
He said he has a wife and 2 kids.
Either way....I really don't care. I like him for his personality whether he's gay or straight. He's hilarious.
I just think it's weird that we heard he came out, and then we hear that that was invalid information. Like Pianolin said, why would anyone make that up?
Maybe crossed wires then, rather than loose ones. The FOAF heard about some guy who came out, didn't have the complete information, but drew what seemed like a logical conclusion based on the info he had. Y'know, the ol' 2+2=5 malarkey. :3 People are nothing if not fallible. :)
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Killertofu-- I just watched The Bad Seed for the first time. Wow, I think I'm disturbed for life.
Schmerg, I'm sooo proud!!! And yes that film is very disturbing, but in a good way. I may go watch it right now for the 1000th time.
But I just don't understand all these gay people not coming out until their 20's or saying they are bi for the longest time, its confusing!
Piano, I can understand why that can be confusing. I don't know other people's reasons for staying "IN" until their 20s but for me it's quite simple. Yes some of my really good friends know, but as for coworkers and my family, right now it's out of the question. I've hung around my coworkers enough to know that a lot of them can't seem to keep even the tiniest piece of gossip to themselves and I've also heard what they "actually" think of gay people when I was standing right there. Let's just say it was more than a little unflattering.
And my family? Well I've talked about that before. I'm just not ready for them to hate, disown and never speak to me again just yet. So to protect myself I'm holding off on telling them. That is unless I meet someone who makes me want to be a better woman...blah, blah, blah.......
Yeah, who knows.....LOL!
I still wanna see pictures of the kids. Not because I think they don't exist, but because I freaking wanna know what they look like dammit.
Tofu, I know what you mean. Last year, when I was a senior and still "in", there was this ULTRA conservative kid in my classes (I did IB so it was pretty much the same people in all my classes) and he talked about gay people being awful all the time, and for my own sake, I never wanted to come out because of people like him, but then, once I did come out, he totally changed his views and he actually told my friends that he didn't care if I was gay and then he got all fascinated and asked me how I knew and he was very accepting.. so most people who say that they don't like gay people usually don't know too many. And as for parents, that can be hard too, but once my mom knew, she didn't care and neither did my dad. If anything, it made our relationships 10 times better.
But now that I am out and am on the hunt for a man, I find it difficult to like anyone that is "bisexual" because I don't want someone to change on me, ya know? Anyways, once you do tell everyone, things will be all good, I promise!
OH! And I have this friend (A Girl) I say she is a lesbian, she just says she is 70% straight... anyways, she was looking on a website and she found her older sisters profile.. how awkward is that?
Piano, I'm glad you had such a good experience coming out.
I can totally understand where tofu is coming from as well though.
All I can say is that if Henry were to end up gay, I would like to think that he would feel comfortable telling my husband and I. And know that we would love him and respect him always.
It really is different for everyone! I've had friends with completely different experiences coming out, both good and bad. One got kicked out of his home, while another now has a much stronger bond with his family. Kind of like rolling the dice.
Stockard, Henry is lucky to have you, whether he ends up straight or gay!
I find it difficult to like anyone that is "bisexual" because I don't want someone to change on me, ya know?
Haha, I know what you mean! I have a friend who has a new boyfriend, and she's head-over-heels about him. But what's interesting is, I've known her for four years, and she's always identified as a lesbian-- which confused me a lot when I first knew her, because she was the first openly gay person I ever knew. But now, she says she's always been bisexual but never found a guy who was good enough! ^_^
Pianolin, it is really great that your school was so accepting! The one openly guy I know at my school is relentlessly picked on, but I think a lot of it is his personality and not his sexuality. He's really rude and disrespectful to teachers and other kids, he talks about being sexually promiscuous with adults and hits on random boys in the hall (he keeps telling my brother that he's 'hot'), and he wears girls' clothing.
But then again, there are so many people at my school who everyone knows are closeted, and they're usually treated really nicely.
YES! I know what you mean! I have a friend, full on lesbian, and now she is telling me she might like guys too? I am like whoa whoa... what?! You can't just revoke that you are a full on lesbian, can you?
But yeah, my school, eh, not so much accepting really. I mean it was after we graduated and everyone matured, but then again, they are more accepting than other people, so it could have been worse :)
I can relate to this! my boyfriend that I heard from people was gay broke up with me a few weeks ago. Everyone thought it was because he is gay. Last night he was seen out with a guy who no-one knew and was gay.
Oh my gosh, Speller! The Gay Boyfriend you told us about actually is gay! This was the guy with the appendicitis, right?
Oh my gosh, Speller! The Gay Boyfriend you told us about actually is gay! This was the guy with the appendicitis, right?
yup. It's all so crazy. But i'm almost down with high school and away from all of this drama.
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...I have a friend, full on lesbian, and now she is telling me she might like guys too? I am like whoa whoa... what?! You can't just revoke that you are a full on lesbian, can you?
I find that to be really baffling!!! Obviously sexuality isn't written in stone, but it can get kinda murky when you announce something like "I'm a full on lesbian" to the world and then turn around a date a man. I know a guy who refuses to identify as anything and just uses the umbrella term "queer". Some also say that their sexuality is fluid and they like who they like, when they like them regardless of gender. I, of all people, can't pass judgment on someone elses preferences, but your friend would confuse me too.
And as for the bisexual thing...HMPH!! I can't say that I've actually had a full out relationship with a woman either gay or bi. I'm still a young adult and at that stage in my life where everything I do with someone is just "Hanging Out". I've never been called someone's girlfriend nor have I bestowed such a title onto someone I was "Hanging Out" with. I can't say for sure if I'd never date a bisexual woman, but I think that little voice would always be at the back of my mind nagging me: "Oh my gosh what if she's out trolling for guys and I was just the flavor of the month?!" I'd like to think that I'm not that insecure about my "wooing" abilities...but...I suppose I am. GAWD I sound like such a DOUCHE!!!
"I know a guy who refuses to identify as anything"
I KNOW ONE OF THOSE TOO! Man, small world! Seriously though, I had problems with it until I came out, so I know where people are coming from, but its just a matter of waiting to find out their true identity but I must say, I am in love with the song "I Am What I Am" From La Cage... SO true! LOVE it! Seriously, one of the best anthems ever!
But question for you tofu. so you are a lesbian but only out to friends and not family?
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But question for you tofu. so you are a lesbian but only out to friends and not family?
Umm...yes and no. I'm only out to really REALLY close friends that I absolutely trust. Some of my "other" friends are people around my age that go to my church. We all sit there hearing the same things about homosexuality, and while they agree and nod their heads, I'm sitting there wide-eyed waiting to be struck by lightning!!! So those "other" friends I'm not going to come out to them yet if ever.
And just as a side note I don't actually identify as a "Lesbian". There's just something about the word lesbian that doesn't roll off the tongue with me. To me it sounds like a crazy flesh eating virus someone picks up on a trek through the jungle. "Oh hey did you hear about Sebastian's trip through the rainforest? He's got lesbian. He'll be in the hospital until the swelling goes down and he gets the feeling back in his FACE!!!"
I know I'll get bashed for that but that's how it sounds to me...so I just identify as a girl who likes other girls or gay.
There's just something about the word lesbian that doesn't roll off the tongue with me. To me it sounds like a crazy flesh eating virus someone picks up on a trek through the jungle.
I giggled. ^_^ But... I have to agree. The word 'lesbian' sounds kind of gross to me. I don't see why there should be a different word for gay girls than guy men, anyway.
Poor Sebastian. Hope the swelling goes down.
LOL I get what you are saying though
My friend hates the word Lesbian too and I think thats one of the biggest factors holding her back from coming out
Happy Monday! So, I'm off tomorrow to Florida for two weeks. I want to wish Stockard an early happy birthday since I'll be traveling tomorrow. Have a great one!!!
I hate flying and am always sure my plane is going to crash. If it does, I've instructed my husband to update my facebook status and all you b*tches better be at my funeral! LOL!
I'm hoping I'll be able to check in from down there - I don't think I can go cold turkey on the computer yet....
Have fun, danmag!! Don't get too scared on the plane, I know you'll land safely. =]
Have fune DanMag! Just think of it as a ride! I LOVE taking off and landing! It's so much fun!
And ugh, I am in class, and this class (Ethics) is SO BORING! You think it might be interesting, but nope, its so boring. Anyways, the prof. calls on random people for his weird questions and he just called on me and it was so nerve racking! I was so nervous because I hate speaking in public, but now that its over, I won't get called on for the rest of the semester! lol
OK, danmag that cracked me up. Have a safe flight and a great vaca!
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