Is Johnny Weir the biggest hypocrite ever>?
Chrysanthemum62001
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/14/04
#25Is Johnny Weir the biggest hypocrite ever>?
Posted: 4/1/10 at 11:04am
Exactly, I don't think it was ever a secret Johnny is gay. And if she would have asked Johnny if he were gay, he wouldn't have denied it. He's been himself no matter what, and he's taken the **** for it. He was royally screwed at the olympics.
But Evan Lysacek has this facade going on, for whatever reason and most people know it's a pile of crap.
I think they are both amazing artists, I just don't see why this is an issue.
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#26Is Johnny Weir the biggest hypocrite ever>?
Posted: 4/1/10 at 1:22pmPersonally, I think the only one who makes Evan look gay is Evan.
#27Is Johnny Weir the biggest hypocrite ever>?
Posted: 4/1/10 at 1:30pmI thought that's what everyone was saying?
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Joined: 12/31/69
#28Is Johnny Weir the biggest hypocrite ever>?
Posted: 4/1/10 at 2:43pm
Chrysanthemum, if there was a drop of truth to what you said I might agree- but the fact is, no matter how flaming he is, for whatever reason, Johnny Weir doesn't ever say he's gay. He's coy, he's vague, he's silent. I thought the argument everyone was making about Ricky Martin is that it doesn't matter if "Everyone knows"- what matters is you say the words. Johnny Weir is no more out than Evan Lysacek.
Updated On: 4/1/10 at 02:43 PM
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#29Is Johnny Weir the biggest hypocrite ever>?
Posted: 4/1/10 at 2:44pmDoes anyone know if AfterElton has gone to Evan for a quote yet?
Unknown User
Joined: 12/31/69
#30Is Johnny Weir the biggest hypocrite ever>?
Posted: 4/1/10 at 2:56pmYou'd think they would, wouldn't you? I'd be curious what he'd say.
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#31Is Johnny Weir the biggest hypocrite ever>?
Posted: 4/1/10 at 3:01pmI feel like joining afterelton just to suggest it, but I'd hate to detract from their pearl-clutching.
#32Is Johnny Weir the biggest hypocrite ever>?
Posted: 4/1/10 at 3:04pm
I read AE for their live blogs of my soap opera (OLTL) cause their blogger Snicks is friggin hilarious.
But YES...the pearl clutching. And the contempt they have for actors (even though they will pimp their sh*t out whenever there's something to discuss) makes me crazy.
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#33Is Johnny Weir the biggest hypocrite ever>?
Posted: 4/1/10 at 3:05pmBecause it's not about "protecting" Evan as much as it is about slamming Johnny Weir (and Chelsea Handler).
#34Is Johnny Weir the biggest hypocrite ever>?
Posted: 4/1/10 at 5:22pm
He doesn't really HAVE to come out and the reason he doesn't just come right out and say it is probably because he can't. He gets slammed enough in the skating world, marked down because of who he is. Skating is more about politics than it is about talent and if he came out before he retires it would only hurt him more. Also he makes a good point when people ask him about his sexuality he mostly says its none of their business and it really isn't. I find all that outing of celebs really annoying. No one ever has to come out as straight why should anyone HAVE to confirm or deny if they are gay? It's such a double standard.
As for winkgate I think it's a whole lot of nothing. He winked big deal I think he was just having some fun at his rivals expense. It was Chelsea making insinuations and Johnny just fueled the fire, as he often does. I found Chelsea really annoying throughout the entire interview saying Gay every 5 seconds it's like enough already. I'm tired of hearing how flamboyant and feminine Johnny is. He's an athlete and an amazingly talented one, that often puts his foot in his mouth. He's a 3 time National Champion (4 if you count the time he and Evan tied, but they gave it to Evan because he had higher free skate scores), he's a bronze world medalist and yet all people talk about is how gay he is. I've been a big fan of Johnny's for years and it's more about how he is on the ice than off of it. He works hard just like every other skater and yet always gets cut down because he doesn't fit some "manly image" and it's FIGURE SKATING! I just still can't figure out how someone is "too gay" for FIGURE SKATING!
-"Sorry-Grateful" Company
#35Is Johnny Weir the biggest hypocrite ever>?
Posted: 4/1/10 at 6:45pm
"He doesn't really HAVE to come out and the reason he doesn't just come right out and say it is probably because he can't. He gets slammed enough in the skating world, marked down because of who he is. Skating is more about politics than it is about talent"
he reminds me of a new age Toller Cranston, who only ever got bronze at the world level and was sheer ballet and genius on ice. brilliant. gay. they knew it. i went to a benefit of his several years back and those skaters don't leave anything to the imagination when in party mode. (kadavy, sumners, etc) they really know one another well. i would like to think that the uncovering of the french/russian judges cheating would put an end to one part of the politics in the sport. we all know how many people have been screwed in figure skating. i don't think being gay lost him anything, many are...and suprisingly to some, many aren't. it is his outspoken nature on many topics. whatever the reason, he needed to be judged on his beautiful skating.
johnny not saying he is gay is not a big deal. it is all semantics. whether he says it or not, people know. he makes it very clear and is very proud of who he is. come on! wanting to wear a ring of roses in his hair at the olympics and proudly listening to lady gaga and loving her. semantics.
remember rudy galindo?
outing someone is a ****ty thing to do. but i love Johnny's skating and think he was robbed at the olympics.
#36Is Johnny Weir the biggest hypocrite ever>?
Posted: 4/1/10 at 7:07pmI remember Rudy well. He came across to me as a wonderful and immensely likable person. I hope he's doing well in whatever he's into these days.
#37Is Johnny Weir the biggest hypocrite ever>?
Posted: 4/1/10 at 7:30pmexactly. very kind and wonderful. no need for judgement but some people judged him.
#38Is Johnny Weir the biggest hypocrite ever>?
Posted: 4/29/10 at 7:21pm
Evan Lysacek calls Johnny Weir a “whiner”
#39Is Johnny Weir the biggest hypocrite ever>?
Posted: 4/29/10 at 7:50pmThat is beyond catty. He basically said he is an untalented whiny little skater who needs money.
#40Is Johnny Weir the biggest hypocrite ever>?
Posted: 4/29/10 at 7:55pm
Q
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/3/05
#41Is Johnny Weir the biggest hypocrite ever>?
Posted: 4/29/10 at 8:00pmNone of them are what John Curry was, and never will be.
FindingNamo
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/22/03
#42Is Johnny Weir the biggest hypocrite ever>?
Posted: 4/29/10 at 9:10pmAnd they should get the hell off your damn lawn.
#43Is Johnny Weir the biggest hypocrite ever>?
Posted: 4/29/10 at 9:57pm
I can't stand Evan, but anyway, I thought Johnny looked ridiculous in that video. I get it that he tries very hard to be unique and outrageous, but I don't think he has the taste and/or style to pull it off. Perfect example are his costumes.
pull it off, lol!
#44Is Johnny Weir the biggest hypocrite ever>?
Posted: 4/29/10 at 10:26pm
^ i can't stand Evan either but I like whatever Johnny does. This interview wasn't his best though and that little "they make a little money" isn't true for everyone. I know someone who did the Tom Collins Tour that made a nice little pay day. and he was a skater from quite a while ago but is a fan favourite, so I can imagine what olympic champions make.
Evan is an idiot for even saying anything.
Q
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/3/05
#45Is Johnny Weir the biggest hypocrite ever>?
Posted: 4/29/10 at 11:32pmNamo, that really made me giggle. Thanks!
#46Is Johnny Weir the biggest hypocrite ever>?
Posted: 4/30/10 at 12:00am
I saw him skate to "Bad Romance" tonight, and I have to admit: I really, really enjoyed it.
But like really, really, REALLY enjoyed it.
Johnny Weir: Gaga on Ice.
#47Is Johnny Weir the biggest hypocrite ever>?
Posted: 4/30/10 at 12:33am
Johnny is fun, lighthearted, and provocative in the most sweet and flirty ways. I don't think any of his camp or jabs are meant to be taken seriously. If you spend anytime watching press with Evan, you come to realize he is the egomaniac who worked his ass off to beat Weir into the ground. I respect his discipline and focus but loathe his hubris (and his overdone spray tans). He makes lots of negative comments about Johnny (which the press clearly egg him into). Then again, the two of them could be aware that the feud is great press, so they prolong it for marketing reasons. Who knows, maybe they are friendly. I enjoyed Johnny referring to Evan as a "slore" (slut/whore) on the Wendy Williams Show-"How You Doin?"
Personally, I don't think Johnny needs to say "I am gay". He is gay, never hides it, but hasn't announced it either. I think its a pretty mature approach to be honest. It's rather normalizing.
#48Is Johnny Weir the biggest hypocrite ever>?
Posted: 4/30/10 at 1:57amI have kind of been back and forth about both of them and have decided I really don't care for either of them. JMO
#49Is Johnny Weir the biggest hypocrite ever>?
Posted: 4/30/10 at 3:19amBut which one would you rather do?
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