Judy Garland day on TCM- Page 2
Judy Garland day on TCM
#25re: Judy Garland day on TCM
Posted: 8/8/05 at 4:58am
Well, Jose,
Just because Blackface...or minstrelsy...was not an issue then does not give it any excuse to be right. It was still a form of racism, no matter what era.
"Do you know what pledge time is, Andrew"? said the PBS Executive.
"Yes", Lloyd Webber replied. "My 50th birthday special must be one program that gets done a lot."
"No", mused the man from PBS heedlessy. "Not so much. Our Stephen Sondheim Carnegie Hall concert. That's a big one."
Spoons, forks and knives seemed suddenly to suspend their motion in horror, all around the table.
Broadway Legend Joined: 12/31/69
#27re: Judy Garland day on TCM
Posted: 8/8/05 at 11:16am
between TCM and the Judy Duets on PBS this weekend, tv is as good as it gets. it's always judy day in my house and in my heart.
(how did liza mae become she who will not be named? Lizamort?)
(i think minstrelsy was issue # 357 on the list of things those concerned about racial equality had to worry about at the time. just keeping folks alive was #1 in some places.)
Mind is Mantra.
MasterLcZ
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/12/03
#29re: Judy Garland day on TCM
Posted: 8/8/05 at 11:38am
Yawper, my point was that Minelli was much involved with Garlands films pre-IN THE GOOD OLD SUMMERTIME.
What seems particularly twisted is right after Judy was finished with THE GOOD OLD SUMMERTIME and in a good frame of mind, Freed - almost sadistically - gives Judy her least favorite director, Busby Berkeley for ANNIE GET YOUR GUN. Could he NOT see that there would be troubles ahead?!
Freed may have been MGM's greatest producer of musicals, but when it came to Garland he was abysmally insenstive.
Had ANY other director been involved with AGYG, it's likely that Judy would have completed the film.
"Christ, Bette Davis?!?!"
Updated On: 8/8/05 at 11:38 AM
Borstalboy
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/9/04
#30re: Judy Garland day on TCM
Posted: 8/8/05 at 11:41amI still love THE PIRATE....but watching MEET ME IN ST. LOUIS for the first time recently I was really quite amazed at how NOT dated it is. What a great film!
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~ Muhammad Ali
#31re: Judy Garland day on TCM
Posted: 8/8/05 at 11:56am
The FIRST time?
Who knew you were such a virgin?
#32re: Judy Garland day on TCM
Posted: 8/8/05 at 9:32pm
I so wish Judy had done Annie Get Your Gun.
M-G-M should have done anything to make it work.
What a waste.
" ...the happiness in the tune convinces me that I'm not afraid."
#33re: Judy Garland day on TCM
Posted: 8/8/05 at 9:43pm
Which would you rather have seen:
Judy's Annie Get Your Gun
Judy's Gypsy
Judy's Mame
#34re: Judy Garland day on TCM
Posted: 8/8/05 at 9:45pm
PalJoey, I want all three.
OK, Annie Get Your Gun.
" ...the happiness in the tune convinces me that I'm not afraid."
#35re: Judy Garland day on TCM
Posted: 8/8/05 at 9:51pm
Which album do you wish she would have lived to record:
Judy Sings the Sondheim Songbook
Judy Sings Jerry (Herman, of Course!)
Judy Garland: The Music of Alec Wilder
#36re: Judy Garland day on TCM
Posted: 8/8/05 at 9:54pmWell you know what she said before she sang "Something's Coming" from WSS, yes?
" ...the happiness in the tune convinces me that I'm not afraid."
#38re: Judy Garland day on TCM
Posted: 8/8/05 at 10:00pmI can't quote her exactly but she was asking for forgiveness (beforehand) because "the song has about a thousand Portuguese lyrics." :)
" ...the happiness in the tune convinces me that I'm not afraid."
#39re: Judy Garland day on TCM
Posted: 8/8/05 at 10:07pm
I had a feeling that was the line you were thinking of!
That line came up recently on my iPod, followed by "Another Hundred People" from the Brazilian cast recording of Company (one of my favorite foreign cast recordings)--in other words, a song that actually HAS a thousand Portuguese lyrics!
I was on the elliptical machine at the gym and almost screamed.
It will never happen again.
brdlwyr
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/14/05
#40re: Judy Garland day on TCM
Posted: 8/8/05 at 10:10pmGlebb, do you know Pam Strobel from Exelon?
#41re: Judy Garland day on TCM
Posted: 8/8/05 at 10:11pmLOL, yes I do. Judy never met her.
" ...the happiness in the tune convinces me that I'm not afraid."
brdlwyr
Broadway Legend Joined: 1/14/05
Yawper
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/13/04
#43re: Judy Garland day on TCM
Posted: 8/9/05 at 1:32am
Judy in Gypsy - looking at the work she did do I'm not sure how well she could pull this off - how many pushy, agressive songs did she sing, characters did she play? It was always 'woe is me' or 'Swanee/San Francisco'
Mame is probably what she would've done best.
Liza, on the other hand, could've kicked ass in Gypsy. Lorna seems more partial to Herman, but she did a nice job with "Children and Art" in her show.
#44re: Judy Garland day on TCM
Posted: 8/9/05 at 8:14am
What Judy had bottled up inside of her...
If she ever let it out, there wouldn't have been signs BIG enough.
There wouldn't have been lights BRIGHT enough.
Here she is, boys! Here she is, world! Here's Judy as Madame Rose...!
MasterLcZ
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/12/03
#45re: Judy Garland day on TCM
Posted: 8/9/05 at 8:46am
"And the TONY goes to....JUDY GARLAND... for FOLLIES!"
You KNOW how'd she'd sing it - every inflection, every nuance, every line.
Especially "I've lived through Shirley Temple..." 
"Christ, Bette Davis?!?!"
Updated On: 8/9/05 at 08:46 AM
#46re: Judy Garland day on TCM
Posted: 2/21/06 at 9:52pmAll of the Judy threads should be bumped for AndyHardy.
" ...the happiness in the tune convinces me that I'm not afraid."
#48re: Judy Garland day on TCM
Posted: 2/21/06 at 9:58pm"One never knows, do one?"
" ...the happiness in the tune convinces me that I'm not afraid."
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