#177
Posted: 10/19/08 at 11:54pm
*SPOILERS*
This was the season finale? So says the AMC website. There was a lot to take in, especially with Don in California (where I kind of didn't focus on the time switches at first). I really don't like or trust Betty any more. Maybe Don should stay with the first Mrs. Draper.
This was the season finale? So says the AMC website. There was a lot to take in, especially with Don in California (where I kind of didn't focus on the time switches at first). I really don't like or trust Betty any more. Maybe Don should stay with the first Mrs. Draper.
#178
Posted: 10/20/08 at 12:05am
It was not the season finale. They showed previews for next week's show at the end of the episode.
I thought it was excellent.
I thought it was excellent.
#179
Posted: 10/20/08 at 12:38am
http://blogs.amctv.com/mad-men/talk/2008/10/episode-12-open.php
BlueRoses: I started reading these threads a couple of wks. ago, and peoples' insights are really interesting....I thought the show was fantastic tonite..
Peggy's ascent..(the office)
Joan's decline. (the rape)
Don's symbolic re-baptism..(the ocean)
Betty's symbolic bleeding into adulthood..
Pete's inability to deal with his role as father, husband, businessnessman..
BlueRoses: I started reading these threads a couple of wks. ago, and peoples' insights are really interesting....I thought the show was fantastic tonite..
Peggy's ascent..(the office)
Joan's decline. (the rape)
Don's symbolic re-baptism..(the ocean)
Betty's symbolic bleeding into adulthood..
Pete's inability to deal with his role as father, husband, businessnessman..
#180
Posted: 10/20/08 at 7:37am
Joan's storyline is making me sad....it is so sad.....I am thinking Betty is pregnant
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#181
Posted: 10/20/08 at 9:54am
OOps - Next week is the finale. Got it.
I feel so bad for Joan, especially since I think she has major losses in both her personal and professional life. The rape scene was devastating.
I feel so bad for Joan, especially since I think she has major losses in both her personal and professional life. The rape scene was devastating.
#182
Posted: 10/20/08 at 10:10am
It was interesting seeing Peggy succeed in getting what she wants and then seeing Joan getting what she wants but having it be awful. I feel Joan is just marrying him because she is afraid to be a certain age and not be married. It is so sad
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#183
Posted: 10/20/08 at 10:38am
The season rebounded after a shaky detour the week before. But I wish the abrupt re-introductin of Don's backstory and identity theft had been more integrated. It feels dropped in again, after MIA for almost the entire 2nd season. A nit-picky criticism, but one that I feel strongly about. Sometimes, the craft of serialized storytelling is left wanting. As compelling as every thread is, Wiener drops many for far too long, and returns to them without mining the moments for suspense. Sometimes, I want to anticipate a bit more, rather than to find myself plopped into the middle of something undeveloped for 6 episodes, forced to do a lot of remembering (notice how they had to resurrect old clips from season one as "previously" fodder? So we'd reconect to so much dropped story? Sloppy.)
That said, I loved the office stories once again.
That said, I loved the office stories once again.
"I'm a comedian, but in my spare time, things bother me." Garry Shandling
#184
Posted: 10/20/08 at 10:50am
I started to read the amctv blogs but there are hundreds of them! And full of crap observations, like Betty's treatment of Sally was typical parental behavior in the 60's and the doctor's rape of Joan wouldn't have been considered rape because it was inside a relationship. Guys - it's the 1960's, not the middle ages. I was going to post on the blog, but I just lost patience and decided to rant here instead!
#185
Posted: 10/20/08 at 11:28am
I felt so bad for Joan. I don't know how much she loves this doctor or is just tryng to impress Roger.
She's usually so in control and it was a shame to see her so vunerable.
I wonder if Betty will ever find out she's the second Mrs. Draper.
She's usually so in control and it was a shame to see her so vunerable.
I wonder if Betty will ever find out she's the second Mrs. Draper.
#186
Posted: 10/20/08 at 11:49am
I think Betty is pregnant or had a miscarriage cause what was up with Sally at the end of the scene saying Mommy you are bleeding...notice they did not show where she was bleeding from
I think Jon getting engaged to the doctor because she realized Roger would never leave his wife and now that it has happened I think it hurts Joan as well...that he would leave for Jane, who is younger then her, and not her
I think Jon getting engaged to the doctor because she realized Roger would never leave his wife and now that it has happened I think it hurts Joan as well...that he would leave for Jane, who is younger then her, and not her
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#187
Posted: 10/24/08 at 5:12pm
Yowza. Look at how good Vincent Kartheiser looks in the Speed-the-Plow arrival pics on the main page.
I've only seen him as Pete, so I'm most pleasantly surprised.
I've only seen him as Pete, so I'm most pleasantly surprised.
#188
Posted: 10/27/08 at 12:19am
Great finale to the season. The contrast with the pregnancies, the fall of Duck and by default, Pete, who once again shows his hand way too soon, the threat of the bomb and the Bay of Pigs pushing everyone to the edge and the "resolutions", whatever they may be.
Acting so great from all the women (as usual), but this was Pete's best episode so far. His scene with Peggy was heartbreaking and played in a reality the actor had either yet to find or, though an acting choice, failed to reveal until tonight.
I still want to marry Joan. (That shot last week of her view from the floor after the rape in the office was such a brilliant touch of directing!)
Acting so great from all the women (as usual), but this was Pete's best episode so far. His scene with Peggy was heartbreaking and played in a reality the actor had either yet to find or, though an acting choice, failed to reveal until tonight.
I still want to marry Joan. (That shot last week of her view from the floor after the rape in the office was such a brilliant touch of directing!)
PEACE.
#189
Posted: 10/27/08 at 12:33am
Wow...Betty's scene in the bar restroom with that guy!? etc., (to induce misscarriage?) Drinking, smoking, riding...
What a weird last scene - her munching strangely on a drumstick, with that faraway vacant look in her eyes?
Is it possible that's she's pregnant NOT by Don ?
What a weird last scene - her munching strangely on a drumstick, with that faraway vacant look in her eyes?
Is it possible that's she's pregnant NOT by Don ?
#190
Posted: 10/27/08 at 12:44am
I think it's Don's. Before tonight I think that Betty had only ever toyed with the idea of cheating. I'm pretty sure that the back of the bar room was the first time. And it was rather seedy and dangerous, wasn't it? Not the typical fling with the riding instructor or the salesman/bored housewife scenarios they flirted with.
Peggy and Pete...wow. It wasn't the type of confession the priest hoped for, but she finally unburdened herself. What a beautiful, sad and satisfying scene.
Peggy and Pete...wow. It wasn't the type of confession the priest hoped for, but she finally unburdened herself. What a beautiful, sad and satisfying scene.
Updated On: 10/27/08 at 12:44 AM
#191
Posted: 10/27/08 at 11:07am
Great Q&A with Matthew Weiner for Mad Men fans. There are highlights as well as a full transcript when you scroll down (the full transcript is well worth the read, IMO):
http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2008/10/mad_men_matthew_weiner_q_a_on.html
http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2008/10/mad_men_matthew_weiner_q_a_on.html
#192
Posted: 10/27/08 at 1:28pm
The Peggy and Pete scene was outstanding. So many layers.
I can't wait till next season to see what happens to the firm. Will Betty and Don keep the baby. Will Joan get married to that ass. Will Pete stay married
Love this show
I can't wait till next season to see what happens to the firm. Will Betty and Don keep the baby. Will Joan get married to that ass. Will Pete stay married
Love this show
"Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life. Define yourself"
#193
Posted: 10/27/08 at 9:36pm
think they will do another 2 yr skip for season 3? put them smack dab in the Johnson/Goldwater campaign. I can certainly remember watching those election returns.
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#194
Posted: 10/27/08 at 9:56pm
The interview with Weiner seems to suggest that it will be at or about the time of the Kennedy death, which would be November 1963.
#195
Posted: 10/28/08 at 12:21am
I remember that day very well too. I was watching "You Don't Say" at my grandmother's city house when suddenly they broke in and announced KENNEDY HAS BEEN SHOT. Naturally, I assumed they meant the host of the show, Tom Kennedy.
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#196
Posted: 10/28/08 at 2:34pm
Something creepy about a backroom fling when you're pregnant, no? (She was spotting only days ago, too.) The season ender employed some standard soap opera craft, but most effectively. I think we needed that Pete-Peggy scene desperately, but I wished it hadn't popped up out of thin air. Peggy has been so embroiled in that church subplot, I was expecting more payoff there. These nit-picky comments aside, the sereies rebounded well after a nearly disatrous detour into Palm Springs. (I would've hoped for a more compelling adventure for Don, and the Euro trash episode was the show's only serious misfire.)
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#197
Posted: 10/28/08 at 2:40pm
I felt the character's actions in the finale were based on the threat that they would not survive the night and needed to do that one thing that has been itching them for so long.
The Palm Springs scenes with the European family were odd, but looking back, I think it propelled Don into an even deeper appreciation for what he has.
And I don't know who the actress who played Anna (the REAL Mrs. Don Draper) was, but what a great character and performance. There is so much to explore there and so much left unanswered.
The Palm Springs scenes with the European family were odd, but looking back, I think it propelled Don into an even deeper appreciation for what he has.
And I don't know who the actress who played Anna (the REAL Mrs. Don Draper) was, but what a great character and performance. There is so much to explore there and so much left unanswered.
PEACE.
#198
Posted: 10/28/08 at 9:17pm
Violet mentioned the scene where Sally said, "Mommy, you're bleeding." That was only a week ago, no?
I know that Betty and Don slept together at her father's house, but other than that, I don't think so. Where does that fall on the time line compared to the bleeding event?
I'm all confused.
I know that Betty and Don slept together at her father's house, but other than that, I don't think so. Where does that fall on the time line compared to the bleeding event?
I'm all confused.
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#200
Posted: 5/22/09 at 1:17pm
A bump. I've been watching the series on DVD and am really enjoying the hell out of it and wondering why I waited so long to get into it. Serves me right for not heeding the advice of friends who've been telling me how great it is from the beginning.
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