#127
Posted: 9/15/08 at 10:23am
I thin this episode should have been called 3 unsatisfied women. I felt so bad for Joan. The end of the show gave me chills. I was so happy when Betty told him not to come home. Next week is gonna be good
I think January Jones was excellent last night. The scene where she wakes Don up was heartbreaking
I started cracking up with Crab Duck, Duck Crab
I think January Jones was excellent last night. The scene where she wakes Don up was heartbreaking
I started cracking up with Crab Duck, Duck Crab
"Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life. Define yourself"
#128
Posted: 9/15/08 at 12:33pm
thought this insight was interesting
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"Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life. Define yourself"
#129
Posted: 9/15/08 at 4:01pm
Stellar episode, with so many small surprises to go with the bigger turns of story. The entire Peggy-Priest thing is so unpredictable -- who didn't love the moment where she played the role of her own secretary? Talk about a visionary. She has seen the future, and Peggy Olson is a part of it. Contrasted with poor Joan, who stepped way outside her own comfort zone to take on the TV workload, only to discover a part of herself she didn't know was there. Heartbreaking. And Betty's party was riveting as a set piece (a whiff of FAR FROM HEAVEN) and an arena for the next chapter in her deteriorating marriage.
Soap craft note: Wiener brilliantly breaks ironclad rules -- i.e., an entire discussion of Bobbie without Bobbie appearing in the episode, even in a phone call. And didn't you love Betty's repulsions "She's so old..."
Soap craft note: Wiener brilliantly breaks ironclad rules -- i.e., an entire discussion of Bobbie without Bobbie appearing in the episode, even in a phone call. And didn't you love Betty's repulsions "She's so old..."
"I'm a comedian, but in my spare time, things bother me." Garry Shandling
#130
Posted: 9/15/08 at 9:53pm
"You embarrassed me! YOU EMBARRASSED ME!"
That guitar riff at the end was brilliant!
Also, loved that shot of Bets in her dinner party foufou dress at the breakfast table the next morning....
That guitar riff at the end was brilliant!
Also, loved that shot of Bets in her dinner party foufou dress at the breakfast table the next morning....
#131
Posted: 9/16/08 at 10:07am
I loved how she wore the party dress for the whole day and when she finally went to him that night she was wearing the white robe and looked like she had showered and sat in front of him raw and vulnerable
"Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life. Define yourself"
#132
Posted: 9/16/08 at 11:04am
That was so sad, violet. She was like a wounded little girl and she was really reaching out. I think she would have been open to forgiving him if he admitted to it. She was saying, "Tell me what to do, tell me how we fix this. I don't want things to be like this." And all he could do was deny, deny, deny. It's all he knows. His entire identity is built on a lie. When Betty was looking through his things searching for proof of the affair, I was thinking she might come across evidence of Dick Whitman instead.
I usually don't enjoy the Betty scenes all that much, but I did the other evening. She tried so hard to make the dinner party special--I loved her sweet little presentation with her menu from around the world.
I usually don't enjoy the Betty scenes all that much, but I did the other evening. She tried so hard to make the dinner party special--I loved her sweet little presentation with her menu from around the world.
Updated On: 9/16/08 at 11:04 AM
#133
Posted: 9/16/08 at 7:48pm
I almost believed Don, he is such a good liar. I love that Jon Hamm didn't show anything on his face except his lie. No shifty eyes, no sweat. If this was the first episode you ever saw, you would think he was telling the truth.
Have I mentioned how much I love this show?
Have I mentioned how much I love this show?
#134
Posted: 9/18/08 at 4:06pm
I'm very behind, in watching season 2. (broke DVR!) Can anyone burn some copies for me? Will pay. How many episodes so far (season 2)? Thanks.
#137
Posted: 9/18/08 at 6:59pm
#138
Posted: 9/19/08 at 1:56pm
I find myself disturbed, annoyed, perplexed by Betty. She is written and played in ways that break all rules of 'leading lady' handling. She is not always sympathetic, she's portrayed as consciously, almost purposefully shallow and devoid of a single thought outside her own small claustrophobic world ... and them bam, we see her knocked for a loop, sometimes self-induced, often from outside -- and working hard to hold onto sanit and some personal integrity.
And I think Jones masterfully underplays her -- as beautiful as she is, there's no attempt to turn the role into a traditional young star turn. Even the glamour is muted -- never the type that distracts. The sometimes babyish voice, the blankness, the sustained silences -- it all adds up to a groundbreaking view of a suburban woman losing her grip and terrified she is totally alone and rudderless.
If she's a distant cousin of the role Julianne Moore portrayed in FAR FROM HEAVEN, she's tonally in a different world. She's almost humorless, and often without much empathy for others. Fascinating! I never know what she'll do -- the episode where she took her rifle outside? And the broken dining room chair? A boldly original character who might've been a mere stereotype. But that's an insult to Wiener; he works hard to keep all the women separate and distinctive and entirely unpredictable.
And I think Jones masterfully underplays her -- as beautiful as she is, there's no attempt to turn the role into a traditional young star turn. Even the glamour is muted -- never the type that distracts. The sometimes babyish voice, the blankness, the sustained silences -- it all adds up to a groundbreaking view of a suburban woman losing her grip and terrified she is totally alone and rudderless.
If she's a distant cousin of the role Julianne Moore portrayed in FAR FROM HEAVEN, she's tonally in a different world. She's almost humorless, and often without much empathy for others. Fascinating! I never know what she'll do -- the episode where she took her rifle outside? And the broken dining room chair? A boldly original character who might've been a mere stereotype. But that's an insult to Wiener; he works hard to keep all the women separate and distinctive and entirely unpredictable.
"I'm a comedian, but in my spare time, things bother me." Garry Shandling
#139
Posted: 9/19/08 at 2:03pm
I totally agree Auggie. Even though the show is called Mad Men, to me it's really about the women. They are all so complex and riviting. It's the men who are more stereotypical to me.
#140
Posted: 9/21/08 at 6:31pm
Thanks, HellsBells, I decided to download season 2 (so far) from iTunes.
Can not wait for tonights episode. I had to re-watch small portions of season 1 to remember all the backstories. I would love to see this series go on for years, (until the moon landing)...the 60's were so much a huge part of my real life. I have to say that this series is one the most brilliant series EVER on TV. Slooooooowww and goooooood... (the antithesis of everything today.)
Can not wait for tonights episode. I had to re-watch small portions of season 1 to remember all the backstories. I would love to see this series go on for years, (until the moon landing)...the 60's were so much a huge part of my real life. I have to say that this series is one the most brilliant series EVER on TV. Slooooooowww and goooooood... (the antithesis of everything today.)
Updated On: 9/22/08 at 06:31 PM
#142
Posted: 9/22/08 at 8:05pm
Well, was there any doubt that Mad Men was going to win?!! I hope this brings more of an audience. As brilliant as this show is, the ratings are not good.
Love the avatar blueroses!
Love the avatar blueroses!
#143
Posted: 9/22/08 at 9:25pm
Thanks, clever name. I fell in love with the photo--I think it was from a Vanity Fair shoot.
I'm thrilled for Matthew Weiner and the entire cast.
I'm thrilled for Matthew Weiner and the entire cast.
#144
Posted: 9/22/08 at 9:56pm
Damn, I sat through the entire Emmy telecast waiting to watch the show (thinking it would be a nice tonic for all of the women being snubbed) and it is a repeat. A brilliant one, but a repeat, nonetheless.
PEACE.
#145
Posted: 9/28/08 at 7:40pm
I have a question about "Glen" (the neighbors' young son, who she baby sat for, with that strange bathroom scene?)) in a previous episode that was also downright weird.
Betty has just parked her car at the shrink's office, and then sees "Glen" in another parked car. She goes up to him and says something to the effect of not being able to talk to anybody....a very expressionistic scene, but kind of, out of nowhere?
Anyone remember this short scene?
Betty has just parked her car at the shrink's office, and then sees "Glen" in another parked car. She goes up to him and says something to the effect of not being able to talk to anybody....a very expressionistic scene, but kind of, out of nowhere?
Anyone remember this short scene?
#146
Posted: 9/28/08 at 7:55pm
it was in the season finale (the Wheel) it was actually the post office parking lot because his mom was inside and he didn't know how long she was going to be.Betty slapped her in the supermarket a couple of episodes before so she wasn't on speaking terms with her and she told her to stay away from Glen(who is played by Matthew Weiner's son) It was just after she found out that Don was speaking to her therapist and she was upset and could relate to Glen because she is so child like
"Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life. Define yourself"
#147
Posted: 9/28/08 at 8:03pm
Violet, thanks for the update...I *did* forget that supermarket scene. Yeah, that's what's so damn artistic about the show, in that it mixes a sort of heightened realism with short expressionistic scenes. BTW, another Q. Somewhere in an early 1st season episode, I vaguely remember a very short, almost suicidal (shot) of Don. Do you remember what episode, etc that was? I have the DVDs, but not enough time to re-watch all of them. Thanks.
#148
Posted: 9/29/08 at 4:31pm
not sure...it could have been the episode where Pete told Cooper about Don? Because he went a little crazy and tried to get Rachel to leave the country with him and she refused
"Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life. Define yourself"
#149
Posted: 9/30/08 at 5:33pm
CNN is featuring a wonderful story on Bryan Batt re: being gay in Hollywood:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/09/30/batt.gay.hollywood/index.html
I'm a new Mad Men fan...just finishing up season one so I"m avoiding this thread so I don't hear spoilers. I'll be caught up soon enough.
How many episodes have aired so far this season?
http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/09/30/batt.gay.hollywood/index.html
I'm a new Mad Men fan...just finishing up season one so I"m avoiding this thread so I don't hear spoilers. I'll be caught up soon enough.
How many episodes have aired so far this season?
#150
Posted: 9/30/08 at 7:02pm
Nine episodes have aired so far and I believe there are just four left. The last one airs Oct. 26. And then we'll probably have to wait until next summer for season 3! Oy!
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