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#51

Manti Te'o's girlfriend who died in Canada

Here's the article that I was talking about. Once again, not saying I agree but thought I'd bring it up as a possibility.
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#52

Manti Te'o's girlfriend who died in Canada

I can't believe this is such a huge story by the media who was partially complicit in its blowing up in the first place.


And Tim Tebow has an invisible boyfriend he's been flamboyant about for yeears.
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#53

Manti Te'o's girlfriend who died in Canada

Yeah--but that's Jesus.

And we've all agreed not to make fun of the people who believe in him.
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#54

Manti Te'o's girlfriend who died in Canada

I find this story quite fascinating. I'm wondering if Te'o is some kind of con man/pathological liar (a la the guy in Six Degrees of Separation). Some interesting reads: a transcript of an interview Te'o did with Sports Illustrated in September, with lots of details of his (hoax/fake) girlfriend (who he never met in person):

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20130117/manti-teo-girlfriend-hoax-quotes/?sct=hp_t11_a2

An exchange between a writer and Malcom Gladwell (The Tipping Point) on the 'myth of the dying girlfriend' angle. At the end of the exchange the worrd "mendacity" is used, which of course, reminded me of Cat on a Hot Tin Roof. This story is almost like a play:
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8854036/malcolm-gladwell-chuck-klosterman-manti-teo
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#55

Manti Te'o's girlfriend who died in Canada

Manti obviously never met this girl F2F IRL (yeah, I can use internet lingo) as she did not exist but also obviously told at least his father he did as he gave interviews saying Manti and Alberta (I'm going to call her that because I am not going to google her name) met at a football game and exchanged numbers and visited him in Hawaii.

Which is weird because I thought Alberta spent most of their relationship in a coma, right? And she was in a coma when she died so I REALLY don't get how she told him not to come to the funeral and to win one for the 'Berta instead.
#56

Manti Te'o's girlfriend who died in Canada

You have to find one of the timeline articles, Huffington Post had a good one, because it shows how the story took place in several parallel universes so it was possible for her to be in a coma but also text him and for her to die on different days depending on which media outlet was covering every ghoulish detail of the tragicomedy.

If I were a strong Mormon head of household who really really really didn't want a gay son and I was so proud of how manly and heterosexual my football playing son was and how much that signified NOT GAYNESS in this culture, I would fill in all sorts of blanks about my son and his dating habits with that invisible gal from the Fantastic Four.
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#57

Manti Te'o's girlfriend who died in Canada

For the record, my take away on this is that Manti is as gay as pink ink and most likely doin' the nasti with that Gospel singer who seems to be all tied up in this.

Alberta was not only really fragrant Heisman bait but gave him a good reason to pass on those cheerleader handjobs that are as much a part of ND's football program as fish on Fridays. Of course dad bought into this girlfriend he never met on any of her trips to Hawaii to hang out with his big straight meal ticket.
#61

Manti Te'o's girlfriend who died in Canada

When there was so much talk last year about the "improving" landscape in the professional locker-room--that a gay athelete could reasonably expect support or at least benign indifference from his team-mates, there was very little discussion about the homophobia and heterosexism of the Sports Media.

Watching this story unfold--watching the sportswriters and talking heads twist themselves into Gordian knots trying to fit all the outlandishly contradictory "facts" of the official story into a coherent narrative--is almost amusing. Meanwhile--the laughably simple and obvious solution is treated like a radioactive bomb that cannot even be approached for consideration.

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#63

Manti Te'o's girlfriend who died in Canada

"For the record, my take away on this is that Manti is as gay as pink ink and most likely doin' the nasti with that Gospel singer who seems to be all tied up in this."

Jeez, Joe, I'm workin' here! I can't be LOL in the back office in front of guests.
#64

Manti Te'o's girlfriend who died in Canada

One of the commenters on the Signorile article linked in PJ's post reminded me--everybody, really--that Raymund Burr used leukemia to hide HIS homosexuality too. Although it wasn't a fictional girlfirend who died in Burr's case, but a fictional son from a fictional wife/girlfriend, which is both more convoluted and even more creepy--losing a child being such an inexpressibly awful thing for people to whom it happens in the real world.

Of course, in 1950's Hollywood (unlike today!) closeted actors would conspire with publicists and studios to deceive the public about their personal lives. No, really--it's true. Warner Brothers created a relationship between Burr and Natalie Wood, but in the end decided that saying she was dating Tab Hunter would be better for her career...


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#66

Manti Te'o's girlfriend who died in Canada

Somebody help me interpret this video. I want to say that the young man sets my Gaydar off so hard (phrasing!) that I've got whiplash. But maybe I'm mis-reading the guy due to my own ignorance about his 'people'?

Are Samoans a soft-spoken people, generally? I have several Tibetan friends who are extremely gentle in their speech, but not even a little bit gay.




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Updated On: 1/18/13 at 04:18 PM

#67

Manti Te'o's girlfriend who died in Canada

I watched some of that and was like, 'Gurl...stop.'

I have been known to be wrong...from time to time. But he was at the 'Ann Curry interviewing Angelina Jolie' decibel.
#68

Manti Te'o's girlfriend who died in Canada

This video is just freaky! I just cannot believe that no one ever asked him how his "girlfriend" was in the sack? Or, no one ever suspected since he had never met her.
#69

Manti Te'o's girlfriend who died in Canada

US magazine says that possible hoax mastermind Ronaiah Tuiasosopo auditioned for The Voice back in the fall, telling producers that "he and his cousins started a Christian band together and were on their way to perform at a youth conference in Nevada when they got into a "massive" car accident. He claimed a truck crashed into their vehicle, sending them flip-flopping all over the freeway. He also said doctors thought one of them might have been brain-dead, but miraculously, everyone was fine."

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/ronaiah-tuiasosopo-alleged-mastermind-behind-manti-teo-girlfriend-hoax-auditioned-for-the-voice-2013171

The judges were not won over by his story or his voice, although it's not half bad for an ex-football playing fraudster:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tH6GIV2KNEQ
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#70

Manti Te'o's girlfriend who died in Canada

Manti Te'o speaks:
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8859077/manti-teo-notre-dame-fighting-irish-denies-being-part-hoax-late-girlfriend

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Manti Te'o denied being part of a hoax involving a relationship with a person online whom he considered his girlfriend, during an interview with ESPN's Jeremy Schaap on Friday night, but did say he "tailored" his stories so people would think he "met her before she passed away."

"No. Never," Te'o said during the 2½-hour interview. "I wasn't faking it. I wasn't part of this."

* * *

Te'o was told Kekua awoke from the coma in mid-May. From that point, the relationship became more serious and they spoke on the phone every day.

"Every day. I slept on the phone with her every night," Te'o said. "... I'd be on the phone. And she had complications from the accident, and she said the only thing that could help her sleep was if I was on the phone. So I would be on the phone, and I'd have the phone on the whole night."

Schaap asked why Te'o didn't go to see Kekua in the hospital.

"It never really crossed my mind. I don't know. I was in school," he said.

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Your girlfriend, who you speak to every day, is hospitalized from a car accident and later dying from cancer, and visiting her never crosses your mind? This happened between April and September. She was in California. What kind of boyfriend would not visit his dying girlfriend? Would not go to the funeral? Would not visit her grave? Ladies, don't get involved with this guy. He wants to tout you as his girlfriend, but doesn't want to meet you in person.
Coach Bob knew it all along: you've got to get obsessed and stay obsessed. You have to keep passing the open windows. (John Irving, The Hotel New Hampshire)

Updated On: 1/19/13 at 10:03 AM

#71

Manti Te'o's girlfriend who died in Canada

Didn't go to the funeral or visited the grave yet let a Notre Dame alum start a cancer fundraiser in her memory:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/notre-dame-alum-who-launched-fundraiser-in-memory-of-teo-girlfriend-shell-shocked-by-hoax/2013/01/17/3800aa00-60e7-11e2-bc4f-1f06fffb7acf_story.html

More stuff that comes out from the Te'o camp clears absolutely nothing and if anything just builds up more inconsistencies and pokes more holes in the story. He only was sure it was a hoax when he found out when his buddy admitted it to him days ago? Then what about the Notre Dame private investigation?



Updated On: 1/19/13 at 11:16 AM

#72

Manti Te'o's girlfriend who died in Canada

What kind of a person starts a relationship with someone over the phone and internet without having had any physical contact with them? The first red flag would have been the Skype calls with blocked video. I mean, c'mon are we to believe this guy was that gullible and naive?
#73

Manti Te'o's girlfriend who died in Canada

"Your girlfriend, who you speak to every day, is hospitalized from a car accident and later dying from cancer, and visiting her never crosses your mind?"

Exactly. That's the part that makes me think he's not just the victim of a hoax. Has he addressed this anywhere?
#74

Manti Te'o's girlfriend who died in Canada

I think it was all a wish fulfillment thing. He had invested all the time and energy in the girlfriend he never met, which eventually brought him past the point of no return. "She" keeps creating reasons they never meet, he has to deny the obvious or risk facing what a chump he has been. Once others started investing in the narrative, he felt the pressure to keep believing against what from the outside is clear evidence of her non-existence.

It's like a -- SPOILER -- a kid who has basically caught onto the Santa Clause myth who clings to it for fear of losing the benefits that come from belief, and also because his parents seem so into the idea of Santa, he doesn't want them to lose Santa too.
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#75

Manti Te'o's girlfriend who died in Canada

I think the post of the Malcolm Gladwell-Chuck Klosterman Grantland piece provides how there is this constant sports narrative of 'sick relative, significant other' is ill or dying but the athlete keeps playing anyway fits especially with Notre Dame football mythology. That said, as Gladwell and Klosterman point out, it seems that Te'o seems to be conscious about that narrative a little too much.

And that interview about the game after the deaths with all of the people wearing the Hawaiian lays is uncomfortable to watch. It seems to be all about him and how he feels, not really about the grandmother or the fake girlfriend- and let's face it grandma deaths do not evoke that much sympathy.

The family sounds a bit nutty. The father publicly announced he would drop his subscription to a Hawaiian newspaper because the paper's front cover showed his son missing a tackle in the Alabama game.

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