Marie Antoinette- Page 2

[ErikJ972]

Posted: 10/18/06 at 2:44pm

I saw it last night too and unfortunately it didn't really work for me either. I have to agree with pretty much everything Anakela said. The movie seemed more like an overblown music video. For a two hour movie it seemed like there was about twenty pages or less of dialouge. It was nice to look at but that's about it.

[wishinguweresomehow]

Posted: 10/18/06 at 2:46pm

The feel to this movie is already irritating me. Especially with the Rock music, since we all know that Marie and Louis were jamming during their many balls. But I think this movie has three strikes against it, maybe four:

1)the fact that the French BOOed it at Cannes
2) Sofia Coppola
3) Kirsten Dunst-HATE HER!
4) and most reviews say how awful it is

Im thinking I'll wait til this makes the movie channels...

[EverythingIsRENT]

Posted: 10/18/06 at 3:00pm

after The Virgin Suicides and the dreadful Lost In Translation, you would have to pay me BIG bucks to sit through another Sophia Coppola film. She is the absolute worst I have ever seen. Ugh. But I do love Kirstin Dunst for the most part.

Updated On: 10/18/06 at 03:00 PM

[broadway86]

Posted: 10/18/06 at 3:38pm

Can't wait to see it. Copolla is a wonderful filmmaker. I don't care what anyone else says, I think Dunst is one of the finest young actresses we have.

[Fiction Writer]

Posted: 10/18/06 at 3:40pm

Has anyone here read The Virgin Suicides? The movie and the book are the same thing! I couldn't stand it. It's more of a visual guide than an adaptation.

I love Dunst. LOVE LOVE LOVE.

I'm on the fence about Sophia. I didn't see Lost in Translation.

That sad, my boyfriend and I will see it. I have no qualms juxtaposing (sp?) music in a period piece. The thing is, if it doesn't work, then it'll bomb completely. I don't think there's a middle ground for that sorta thing.

[Jane2]

Posted: 10/18/06 at 3:48pm

Absolutely adored Lost in Translation which is why I'm going to give this a chance, although I"m not a Dunst fan.

[erikaamato]

Posted: 10/18/06 at 4:25pm

Ditto, Jane2.

[Anakela]

Posted: 10/18/06 at 5:15pm

(spoiler?)



I like how they end the movie before her death.

Oh yeah, I didn't like that part either! :)

Seriously, I knew that it was supposed to be the story of the girl/woman, and not necessarily the story of her end, but to have about three minutes of screen time about the Revolution, and to end well before her death, it was just...no.

For anyone familiar with the term, Marie Antoinette as imagined by Sofia Coppola is a total Mary Sue- all that was missing was the part where it turns out that everything was the work of her evil twin, and so Marie goes on to be rich and have lots of babies and live happily ever after forever the end. Or something like that.

[Rose_MacShane]

Posted: 10/18/06 at 6:10pm

Could this be the first Mary Sue to appear in a major motion picture?

[Elphaba]

Posted: 10/18/06 at 6:19pm

ditto to Jane and Erika.....

[Becoz_i_knew_you21]

Posted: 10/18/06 at 9:29pm

Sofia Coppola said they ended it bfore her beheading because she "wanted a movie, not a mini-seris." That's true, I have recently done a report on Marie Antoinette, and there is to much to tell leading up to her death. I don't think aynone would want to sit through a 3 and half-hour movie.

[meggsison]

Posted: 10/18/06 at 9:37pm

I just finished studying the French Revolution in my global history class and I was hoping for something really great, historical and a GOOD movie, but this isn't it, is it? The American accents are a turn off, and I am hearing bad things about this film so far, but I think I will see it this weekend and hopefully I enjoy it, even if it does lack historical context.

[Funny Face]

Posted: 10/18/06 at 9:52pm

It really annoyed me at first that Kirsten wasn't even attempting a British accent (the go-to accent for pretty much every movie set in Europe with american actors) but I guess her normal accent is better than hearing her sound ridiculous trying a foreign accent.

I'm definitely skeptical, but very excited nonetheless. I did a school report on Marie Antoinette a few years ago so I find her life really interesting.

[Cruel_Sandwich]

Posted: 10/19/06 at 10:04am

Lost in Translation, aside from an experimental film called Ballet Mecanique, is THE movie that I love but everyone else hates. It's a movie that hyponotizes you, puts you in a trance, and leaves you feeling amazingly beautiful afterwards.

[blueroses]

Posted: 10/19/06 at 10:14am

Funny, Cruel. Everyone I know loved it and I was the one that hated it!

The cinematography was beautiful and so was Scarlett. Overall, I thought LIT was one of those self-congratulatory "aren't I IMPORTANT and deep because I'm purposely boring and slow moving" things we're supposed to think is more profound than it actually is.

[Cruel_Sandwich]

Posted: 10/19/06 at 10:15am

I just saw it more as a play on emotions, like music, rather than a plot- or character-heavy narrative, although the characters are amazing.

[Cruel_Sandwich]

Posted: 10/19/06 at 10:16am

Oh, and I think MARIE ANTOINETTE might be an even BIGGER case of "I loved it, and everyone else hated it".

[munkustrap178]

Posted: 10/19/06 at 10:18am

Sofia Coppola is the worst filmmaker that you have seen?

You have GOT to be kidding me. LOST IN TRANSLATION was brilliant, and I'm glad she won at least one Oscar for it.

[Jane2]

Posted: 10/19/06 at 4:27pm

"Lost in Translation, aside from an experimental film called Ballet Mecanique, is THE movie that I love but everyone else hates"

Totally incorrect. To begin with, didn't you even read this thread?

[Funny Face]

Posted: 10/21/06 at 12:31pm

I saw it last night, and I found it very entertaining. It's not a great movie by any means, and I must admit that it was very slow moving at times, and the ending is kind of dissappointing, though understandable, but I did enjoy it.
The costumes are some of the most gorgeous I've ever seen on screen, and the sets and color pallette are fantastic. Just an over-all beautiful film to look at. There's a lot of humor too, and great comedic acting. Kirsten wasn't bad at all, not Oscar-worthy or anything, but satisfactory. The accents and modern music actually didn't bother me too much.
I just wish there was more done with some characters. Like Molly Shannon's character and Madame du Barry. They were interesting characters who just sort of dropped off the screen.

I also have a question for anyone who may know:
In the scene where Marie performs an aria for the court, is that Kirsten's singing voice? Because it sounded a lot like her speaking voice. If so, she really is quite a good singer.

[Unknown User]

Posted: 10/21/06 at 4:14pm

I just got back from seeing it and really loved it. I did find the rock music oddly out of place but it didn't bother me too much. And I found the lack of information about the revolution perfect: Marie obviously is paying no attention to what is going on outside her little world so when the mob intrudes it really comes as a shock to us, as it did no doubt to her. I also found it really interesting that she is portayed so sympathetically despite the fact that we see literally hours of her bad behaviour.

The only thing that didn't sit well was the ending. More attention was paid to Marie surrendering her Pug than her life.

I thought Dunst gave a wonderful performance-- and I did like the naturalness to the acting. Too often, these huge costume dramas have the actors acting like waxworks. Coppola did manage to make these people 100% human, despite being dressed like 700 pound wedding cakes.

[MrMidwest]

Posted: 10/21/06 at 4:32pm

Ebert reviews Marie Antoinette

[Jane2]

Posted: 10/21/06 at 4:43pm

I read the review and now want to see the film even more than before!

[Funny Face]

Posted: 10/21/06 at 4:52pm

Yeah, I was very surprised at that review. I thought he would like it, but I didn't suspect he'd rave it so. But he is notorious for going against the grain and liking the "underdog" movies.
I'm just glad he's back :)

[Unknown User]

Posted: 10/21/06 at 7:02pm

Did Ebert see a different cut? I saw no "checking" to see if she was a virgin in the "Hand off" scene-- she was stripped and immediately redressed. And she didn't say "Let them eat custard" in the cut I saw-- just "Let them eat cake? I'd NEVER say that!"

Did Coppola re-cut it or is Roger woozy or did I miss something?