Meghan McCain: Does It Sound Campy to Say I Like Gay Men?

[PalJoey]

Posted: 7/16/09 at 12:46pm

A must-read interview.




Meghan McCain Will Be Heard

[madbrian]

Posted: 7/16/09 at 12:56pm

If the GOP could somehow convince themselves that folks like Meghan should be their 'base', instead of the far right lunatic fringe, they could contend for the majority again.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 7/16/09 at 12:57pm

Hee hee. I don't have nearly the visceral reaction to her that Roscoe does, but I don't really expect her to be the great hope of the Republican party, unless the party finally divorces itself from the far right evangelical lunatics.

[SNAFU]

Posted: 7/16/09 at 1:00pm

I truly worry about Roscoe and the way he bottles everything up and doesn't express what he truly feels!

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 7/16/09 at 1:00pm

But there are a lot of people who have said, "I'm Republican and I'm pro-gay marriage. Thank you for showing that you don?t have to be anti-gay marriage to be a Republican."

Well, where the hell ARE these people? Seriously. Anti-gay legislation didn't just pop up all over the country and pass itself.

Updated On: 7/16/09 at 01:00 PM

[Roscoe]

Posted: 7/16/09 at 1:01pm

Brian, that is exactly the plan. They are desperately trying to pretend that they aren't as bad as they have actually been, as bad as any sentient being can see that they are now and always will be.

Do not be fooled by Meghan McCain's bullsh*t. The article points out that she was very quiet on these matters during the election. This post-election declaration of love and acceptance and a new direction for the Republican Fourth Reich is only coming because her Daddy LOST BIG TIME.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 7/16/09 at 1:06pm

It should be noted that she also "remains silent" on Sarah Palin even after the election, allowing you to draw your own implications. I don't really believe had she been asked she would have given a real answer about gay marriage before the election.

Perhaps Roscoe and me (and others) are wrong, but I take everything this woman says with a grain of salt. Indeed, a whole deer lick of salt.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 7/16/09 at 1:13pm

Meanwhile, Daddy McCain is appalled at the "abuse of power" in trying to get the Matthew Shepard legislation passed.
Wow. What a maverick.

[danmag]

Posted: 7/16/09 at 1:21pm

Roscoe, I have to say. I like the way you get straight to the heart of the matter.

[frogs_fan85]

Posted: 7/16/09 at 1:25pm

Watching her attempt to defend herself and her positions on Real Time with Bill Maher about a month ago was hilarious.

I will give her this though, she's much hotter than Sarah Palin.

[danmag]

Posted: 7/16/09 at 1:27pm

Totally in agreement, Roscoe.

[blaxx]

Posted: 7/16/09 at 2:21pm

Roscoe just needs to go on a date with Stew.

[Roscoe]

Posted: 7/16/09 at 2:27pm

Blaxx, if I thought that the great god STEW, creator of the Wonder Play Of The Ages PASSING STRANGE would have me, I would be his in a heartbeat!

HAIL STEW!! HAIL PASSING STRANGE, the wondrous disease curing musical and film of the new millennium! See it and be healed!

[DottieD'Luscia]

Posted: 7/16/09 at 2:27pm

Roscoe doesn't mince words!! I love it!

[PalJoey]

Posted: 7/16/09 at 2:49pm

I just love that they have to deal with her.

[NYadgal]

Posted: 7/16/09 at 3:23pm

Help me to understand.

Someone comes out and supports an issue that is important to us (gay marriage) and you call her a skank and a c*unt?

Besides the fact that those words are uncalled for and at least one of them is misogynistic (you know my position on that topic!), I really DON'T understand why you have such outrage.

Because she is a Republican?

Intolerance on both sides of the aisle is unacceptable.

[Roscoe]

Posted: 7/16/09 at 3:39pm

Here's some help, adgal.

It is my contention that Meghan McCain's position in favor of same-sex marriage is a dodge, an attempt to make us all believe that there are some elements in the Republican Party who aren't as bad as they might appear to any sentient being who has been paying any attention to life on earth in the last 29 years.

I do not see the words as uncalled for. Sorry you find them misogynistic (i don't know your position on that topic, sorry) but I will continue to call her a skank and a c*nt, not c*unt, because I believe she is, in fact, a skank and a c*nt.

A lying, devious little skank Fourth Reich member c*nt.

[ljay889]

Posted: 7/16/09 at 3:42pm

Besides Adgal, women really do not take offense to a man calling another female a c*nt over and over again?
Updated On: 7/16/09 at 03:42 PM

[NYadgal]

Posted: 7/16/09 at 3:46pm

Really?
Women don't take offense to a man calling a woman the 'c-word' over and over again?

I must be living on a different planet.

Most women I know find that word highly offensive. Especially when used in such a hateful and misogynistic way.

I am not even going to engage in why this woman (Ms. McCain) is not being taken at her word.

Updated On: 7/16/09 at 03:46 PM

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 7/16/09 at 3:50pm

I don't know that he was stating that. I think he may have been asking the question, because other women have posted in this thread. I don't know, though, it wasn't my comment.

[NYadgal]

Posted: 7/16/09 at 3:56pm

Well, my answer is that the women I know find it offensive when a man calls a woman the 'c-word' over and over again.

I also truly fail to see how someone who comes out as supporting gay marriage deserves to be so slandered. I find the words Roscoe uses offensive.

But, I'm clearly in the minority.

[blueroses]

Posted: 7/16/09 at 3:59pm

"Some critics have argued that McCain?s support for gay rights amounts to little more than attention-seeking cynicism, that while it?s nice to have the daughter of the former Republican presidential candidate?s vocal support, it would?ve been more helpful if she?d made her views known on the campaign trail. McCain -- a fan of Lucky Cheng?s drag club in New York City where she gets her Lady Bunny fix -- says that during the campaign no reporter bothered to ask for her views on the matter. Had they, she would have told the truth and not worried about further upsetting conservatives already wary of her father?s maverick reputation. ?I never would have lied,? she says."

I don't know that I buy this. I have a feeling that--if asked about gay marriage during the campaign--she would have refused to state her position, just like she continually refused to clarify whether she was pro-choice or pro-life (she was asked several times). She may be not want to comment about Palin now, but she was positively GUSHING over her during the campaign. If Meghan is one of those fiscally conservative/socially liberal Republicans, why would she have been so over-the-top in her praise and support of a reactionary like Palin? I doesn't make sense.

Updated On: 7/16/09 at 03:59 PM

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 7/16/09 at 4:04pm

Most women I know do, too. I was just trying to clear up the question, but I really don't know, because lljay's comment is confusingly worded, so I'm not exactly 100& sure. I think some people use those words without thinking through the truly misogynistic implications of them. It doesn't change the fact that they are words rooted in misogyny, or that you have an understandably angry reaction to them.

I don't know that you are in the minority. You may just be the only one who actively says something.

As for Meghan McCain, it's great that she's a big fan of gay marriage. And perhaps her stance on it will help to shake the Republican party out of its sexphobia. In all truth, though, I expect that if she wants to remain a republican she will have to eventually backpedal or shut up. Look at what the party did to her "maverick" father.



Updated On: 7/16/09 at 04:04 PM

[ljay889]

Posted: 7/16/09 at 4:25pm

Sorry for the wording. I was asking why more women aren't taking offense to the word in this thread. As a male, I even do not like hearing women referred to as that word.

[Calvin]

Posted: 7/16/09 at 4:25pm

As for Meghan McCain, it's great that she's a big fan of gay marriage. And perhaps her stance on it will help to shake the Republican party out of its sexphobia. In all truth, though, I expect that if she wants to remain a republican she will have to eventually backpedal or shut up.

She's what...24? I don't doubt her sincerity on the subject, though I do doubt her ability to have any influence whatsoever within the GOP on the subject at this point. We have to wait until the Sally Kerns and Jim Inhofes are pushing up daisies before that happens.