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[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 10/13/11 at 6:32pm

^^^^^

Yes, that.

And, while not a huge fan of Matt Taibbi (he thinks himself quite clever, twice over), I do think he raised some good points here on trying to provide a "List of Demands".

Matt Taibbi's Take. Updated On: 10/13/11 at 06:32 PM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/13/11 at 7:01pm

Tom Hayden was on Countdown last night, and he presented five ways things could possibly go with Occupy. He never said they were the only ways things could go, and her certainly wasn't obsessed by the need to know what the endgame is. That's so straight while male football strategy thinking.

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 10/13/11 at 7:17pm

I think in some odd way OWS is kind of like the 2008 Obama campaign - people are using it to advance a wide variety of issues and interests, assuming that those protesting share the same concerns. Some do, dome don't.

I think it is difficult to quantify the realization that the American Dream is becoming increasingly out of reach for people. I am not sure without radical transformation of our economic (i.e., tax) and regulatory environment that things can really change - and there is not one thing alone that will fix the problems.

On some level people recognize how difficult solving some of these problems will be is why there are no set "demands".

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/13/11 at 7:22pm

And Russell Simmons just offered to pay for the clean-up of Zuccotti Park!

[Q]

Posted: 10/13/11 at 7:24pm

Namo - I agree with your points. However, what we seem to be seeing is an obvious escalation of the pushback from those 'in power', which isn't going to back off. I'd prefer to see even a semblence of some organization - or even the intent of one - to provide a foundation from which to stand and push back.

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 10/13/11 at 7:26pm

Namo, you beat me to it - I just saw the tweet by "Uncle Rush" and at first I thought it was a joke Rush Limbaugh account!

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/13/11 at 7:49pm

Okay Q, now I demand you go visit your nearest occupation! You'll see there's quite a foundation.

[Q]

Posted: 10/13/11 at 8:01pm

I went to the LA one, but it was only the second day they were there. I'm sure things are different now.

I wonder who else has been to one?

[YouWantitWhen????]

Posted: 10/13/11 at 8:05pm

I was there on Monday after work to drop stuff off. But, I could not stay long.


It has grown all around city hall.

[NYadgal]

Posted: 10/13/11 at 8:10pm

I've been to Zuccotti Park.

It's a block from my office. So quite present in my every day life.
But I made a point to stop and read and listen and be there the other night.


(I can't lie - some of those fine folk need showers... But, the energy is real. And important.)

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/13/11 at 8:24pm

As long as they don't cover it up with Axe, it'll be okay.


CBS News: OWS More Popular Than You Think

[NYadgal]

Posted: 10/13/11 at 8:26pm

Namo, I promise you a clean restroom and a comfy couch a block from the Park, should you decide to come Occupy NY!

No Axe!

[Q]

Posted: 10/13/11 at 8:42pm

That chart graphic on the CBS News page is horrifying.

The Business Insider page they reference is a pretty comprehensive look (through graphs and brief explanations) of just how screwed up things are.

[Almira]

Posted: 10/13/11 at 9:34pm

AFL-CIO is also gathering signatures:

http://act.aflcio.org/c/18/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=2995

Updated On: 10/13/11 at 09:34 PM

[SonofMammaMiaSam]

Posted: 10/14/11 at 7:29am

No permits to be issued or renewed.

[Almira]

Posted: 10/14/11 at 1:32pm

Denver cops evict "Occupy" protesters from park

DENVER - Dozens of police in riot gear herded Wall Street protesters away from the Colorado state Capitol grounds early Friday, arresting 23 and dismantling their encampment.

Most of the demonstrators retreated without resisting, chanting "Peaceful!" or "Shameful!"

One person was arrested on a charge of simple assault, Colorado State Patrol Capt. Jeff Goodwin said. He did not elaborate, and no other violence was reported.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/10/14/national/main20120558.shtml

Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. - Eleanor Roosevelt

Updated On: 10/14/11 at 01:32 PM

[MrMidwest]

Posted: 10/14/11 at 2:08pm

Thoughts?

"these living conditions were never so widely reported on and protested until they affected middle class white people. there's a whole lot of racism and classism in Occupy Wall Street that isn't being addressed."

the discussion goes on at the link..

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/14/11 at 2:55pm

The criticism in the first sentence is correct. The criticism in the second sentence is true across our culture, of which OWS is a microcosm. Except this microcosm is actually working on with teach-ins about racism. classism and the history of oppression.

Also, where are people getting the generalizations like the person who posts that she knows the education levels of 95% of the people she's "seen" involved in the protests? How could she possibly know that? Where has she "seen" these protesters? In person?

Updated On: 10/14/11 at 02:55 PM

[brdlwyr]

Posted: 10/14/11 at 10:00pm

Addy, I will take that offer!

I work near the Occupy Chicago and some of my friends have gone there!

[melodyrose]

Posted: 10/15/11 at 9:06pm

I switched from BOA to TD Bank- if that helps!

[PalJoey]

Posted: 10/16/11 at 1:22am

Occupy Times Square, earlier this evening:





Now it's moved to Occupy Washington Square Park:

[dented146]

Posted: 10/16/11 at 2:25am

I think the CBS poll as right on. I have a great deal of sympathy for the general ideals behind OWS. And I do well.

Throughout corporate America the discrepancy of income from top to bottom has become way out of line

The pay and bonuses of financial institutions and Wall Street firms are outrageous.

Much of what OWS is complaining about is exactly what gave rise to the Tea Party at the time of the original bailout because there was no oversight. The Tea Party attitude was "Let them fail". Yes they are conservative and overlap OWS only in a few areas but they are areas central to the problem.

I can promise you that someone making 250K and paying 90K in taxes whose college grad kid can't find a job and who has seen the problems develope over a lifetime does understand the frustration.

Unfortunately, the answer doesn't reside with the Tea Party or with OWS. It is found by people working together and today we are like an expanding universe with the sides moving apart.


Updated On: 10/16/11 at 02:25 AM

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/16/11 at 3:08am

Karl Denninger, one of the tea party's founders agrees with OWS.
it just shows to go ya

[artscallion]

Posted: 10/16/11 at 8:47am

Occupy Providence began last night. Papers estimate more than 1000 (I'd say closer to 2000) people gathered in Burnside park in Providence (interesting side note: Ambrose Burnside was a local politician who's distinctive style of facial hair is now known as sideburns, derived from his last name, Burnsides.

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But anyway, protestors gathered in the park and then marched through the city, stopping periodically at relevant places like BofA, the Supreme court building, Textron, etc. The best sign I saw was, "EAT THE RICH!!!"

In Burnside Park...
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Taking it to the streets...
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In front of the Supreme court building...
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[Broadway Joe]

Posted: 10/16/11 at 11:11am

Why should we have debt forgiveness? It's your debt, you caused it. People don't know how to use credit cards properly and they end up charging way more then they can afford and they get stuck in a cycle they can never get out of. It's the same thing with mortgages. If you take out a mortgage and don't pay it they take your house, that's how it works.