ROSIE LIVE! Reactions Thread — Page 6
Posted: 11/27/08 at 10:14am
"...and then, to, like, really get the most mileage outta the door prop thingy, which is SUCH an amazing idea, we'll have somebody like ... like--" "Conan O'Brian!" "YES! Conan!" "--come out and ... and--" "Get a ...a PIE in the face!" "Brilliant!" "Oh wow!" "A pie, perfection!"
High fives all around, lunch break.
"When we come back, let's talk about the dancing food finale!" "Ohmigod, did you say dancing FOOD?!" "Is he good, or what?" "More genius!" "Can't wait!" "Now, where shall we go for lunch?"
Updated On: 11/27/08 at 10:14 AM
Posted: 11/27/08 at 11:00am
... not that they were appreciated by me to begin with.
What I don't get is "The Ritalin School of Drama" that every writer and performer seems to have graduated from in the last ten years.
It's like they thought of an idea and changed it mid-sentence. And then changed it again right before they went on stage, and what we see is a messy mix of all three half-baked ideas. That's what I mean by lack of any focus.
At least on the older variety shows, they would take an idea (even a lousy one like a '50s sock hop) and play it out. Sometimes they had a theme run through the entire show.
They also introduced the acts as if they liked them. Not as if the hosts felt like they were doing both them and us a favor by having them on. Rosie always looks like "we owe her" for just showing up and talking.
blocked: logan2, Diamonds3, Hamilton22
Posted: 11/27/08 at 11:35am
Posted: 11/27/08 at 12:06pm
The "door idea" might have worked, but not with celebrities clomping their way through it, plugging their latest CDs or vamping like a musical Vanna White.
I would pepper the stage with windows and doors, like an advent calendar or "Miss O'Donnell's Neighborhood." Then I would hire a cast of young, up-and-coming comics or improv actors. Let them pop through the window and add jokes or adlibs, ala Laugh-In.
Rosie can interact with them.
Each week, have a theme. '50s sock hop, '60 groovy party, '40s USO Show, '20s speak-easy... and modify the set very slightly to "dress" for the occasion.
Let the artists that come on, like Morrisette, Krakowski, Connick, Baldwin, etc. do songs and sketches that tie into that theme. They could all sing '20s songs, for instance, even if they're remixed or re-imagined for a new audience. Tie it all together.
Using the same lineup last night assuming it's a '20s show:
Those tapping twins come on and do a routine to a remix of "Fascinatin' Rhythm."
Krakowski sings "Nowadays" from Chicago.
Morrisette sings Irving Berlin's "What'll I Do?"
Baldwin does a spoof of James Cagney gangster movies.
Those acrobats do their antics to the music of the Charleston.
Connick sings "Bye-bye Blackbird."
Liza does the finale of "All That Jazz" with a full ensemble of vampy dancers.
The big door is used as a speak-easy entrance, with Rosie letting in the guests if they know the password to get in.
She introduces the guests' numbers with class, fun, a little joke MAYBE, and never ever tries to upstage them.
At one point, to mix things up, the entire theatre could be "raided" by a gang of cops who end up doing a big tap number.
One major lesson Rosie needs to learn from the queen of old variety stars Carol Burnett. She said, "Let your supporting cast do the majority of the work. Trust them, and rely on them. If you think it's 'your show,' you'll never get through it, and you'll never last."
Wise words from the legend herself.
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Updated On: 11/27/08 at 12:06 PM
Posted: 11/27/08 at 1:41pm
Did you post something? You were listed as the last poster, but I think you're doing a "disappearing act" here again.
If so, you should get a booking on Rosie's show, stat! It's quite impressive.
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Posted: 11/27/08 at 1:53pm
Posted: 11/27/08 at 2:45pm
I'm applying the same principle here.
In a variety show, we all know we're going to get songs, dances, novelty acts, guest stars. That's the given. But where's the "hook?" The through-line? The concept? The focus.
Oh! And I forgot Kathy Griffin in my lineup. She can do the gangster movie spoof with Baldwin. A fast-talking mol to his Cagney impression. They would be great together.
Other thematic shows could be about Halloween, Valentine's, or "spring awakening," or "summer love." Or a salute to America. Or Italy, France or Mexico. Or a food-themed show. You can introduce new music in all of them. It doesn't have to be "jukebox" songs from bygone eras. Mix it up. Remix it. Rearrange it. Take a new song and contrast it with an old one. Or set a new song on the Rialto Bridge in a "salute to Venice."
The trick is to think INSIDE the box. Inside the hook, the concept, or the platform. It's a proscenium stage presenting a variety of acts, week after week. Everybody wants to think outside the box these days. And they flail and fail miserably, because they're not focused. We end up with a messy "brainstorming session" on the stage. It's a much bigger challenge to think WITHIN a structure.
But THINK.
Entertain us. Surprise us with the "known, expected presentation" of a variety show. It's easier said than done.
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Updated On: 11/27/08 at 02:45 PM
Posted: 11/27/08 at 3:31pm
Posted: 11/27/08 at 3:54pm
False: Co-Produced by RJA
”Hunter Foster, Seth Rudetsky, Janette Barber, and Eric Kornfeld wrote the show.”
Cubanputz, “whoever those people are they need to get fired”…” its very bruce vilanche academy awards podium banter... :/”
As I told Cuban in a PM:
“Maybe if you knew how to spell Bruce Vilanch's name, you'd know who the other writers were...”
His response:
“cubanpab
on 11/27/08 @ 12:18:55 AM
maybe if he (like those others) were relevant... i would
So I said, “re: whoever those people are they need to get fired to cubanpab
on 11/27/08 @ 03:43:55 PM
What an ignorant thing to say.
Bruce writes every word that comes out of Bette Midler’s mouth, along with Cher and MANY others. Not to mention starring on Broadway. Rent his movie (Get Bruce) and you will find out how 'relevant' he is.
The others are Broadway professionals who are very well known.
I guess you just would rather not know and throw lame comments at them.
Try Google. It's your friend.
Updated On: 11/27/08 at 03:54 PM
Posted: 11/27/08 at 4:46pm
Posted: 11/27/08 at 4:51pm
Ms. O'Donnell can be very funny, but she didn't try very hard Wednesday night. Her opening monologue was a riff about her weight, focused on her Spanx support garments, which she described as "onesies for chubby fortysomethings." But Spanx underwear is an overused joke. As she did on "The View," Ms. O'Donnell brought up that she was gay but added a coy comedy bit that didn't really match her usual outspokenness.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/26/arts/television/26rosie-web.html?ref=arts
Updated On: 11/27/08 at 04:51 PM
Posted: 11/27/08 at 5:12pm
What the hell kind of DVD titles have a budget of 250k? thats some glitzy ****ing titles.
Posted: 11/27/08 at 5:24pm
Posted: 11/27/08 at 6:44pm
Posted: 11/27/08 at 6:55pm
That's it.
Co-Producers don't have a lot to do with the direction of the show, they just make sure the stuff gets done.
Why don't you rag on the director, it's HIS fault.
Posted: 11/27/08 at 6:58pm
Posted: 11/27/08 at 7:35pm
No, that money was just for the DVD budgets, not the film.
I've worked on Star Wars, Harry Potter, Casino Royale and 200 other DVDs.
40 Blu-ray Discs, too.
Have you checked out how much those films have made on DVD??
What's a cool quarter of a million when you're DVD gross is as much or more than the film made in theatres?
Granted... that's the HIGH end of the scale, and very, VERY rare for a menu budget. It's the A++ league.
Normal budgets for DVD menus and interactive graphics (games, etc.) are much less.
And the bargain basement ("lets just use the key art and put buttons on it") is the low end of the scale. But you still have to "sell" it to a consumer. It has to be quality work, no matter what the budget is.
But once in a while, I have to say the money was sweet! And we got to dream big.
My favorite experience? Without naming the job or the studio, I got to work with a storyboard artist who did "Lord of the Rings." I came up with a solid concept for the DVD, and he drew it for me. We sold the idea, before I even opened my mouth to pitch it. I spent two weeks collaborating with his "genius."
Good times.
I've worked with Oscar-winning art directors in the past, and some jaw-dropping talent, over the years. It truly humbles me.
But it all comes down to that classic Sondheim song title:
You gotta have a gimmick.
Whether you got two bucks or a cool quarter million.
The quality is in the concept. The "hook."
That doesn't cost any money at all. (Well, except you have to pay MY salary for coming up with it!)
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Posted: 11/27/08 at 10:19pm
I felt very post-gay watching the two most sexless gay people in America yakking it up live on prime time tv.
Posted: 11/27/08 at 10:32pm
Posted: 11/27/08 at 10:34pm
Posted: 11/27/08 at 10:38pm
Is that like Meta-Theater?
Posted: 11/27/08 at 11:13pm
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Posted: 11/27/08 at 11:55pm
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