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#126

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I don't understand why everybody gives out gift bags these days.

So the philosophy is, "We can't just entertain them, we have to pay them to like us?"

I guess people don't watch TV anymore unless they think they can win something. Kinda like the spoiled child who got paid money for cleaning his room or getting good grades.
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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#128

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I couldn't stop picturing the pitch meetings:


"...and then, to, like, really get the most mileage outta the door prop thingy, which is SUCH an amazing idea, we'll have somebody like ... like--" "Conan O'Brian!" "YES! Conan!" "--come out and ... and--" "Get a ...a PIE in the face!" "Brilliant!" "Oh wow!" "A pie, perfection!"

High fives all around, lunch break.

"When we come back, let's talk about the dancing food finale!" "Ohmigod, did you say dancing FOOD?!" "Is he good, or what?" "More genius!" "Can't wait!" "Now, where shall we go for lunch?"

"I'm a comedian, but in my spare time, things bother me." Garry Shandling

Updated On: 11/27/08 at 10:14 AM

#129

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It makes me appreciate the Sid & Marty Krofft water mermaids on the Brady Bunch Hour even more.

... not that they were appreciated by me to begin with.

What I don't get is "The Ritalin School of Drama" that every writer and performer seems to have graduated from in the last ten years.

It's like they thought of an idea and changed it mid-sentence. And then changed it again right before they went on stage, and what we see is a messy mix of all three half-baked ideas. That's what I mean by lack of any focus.

At least on the older variety shows, they would take an idea (even a lousy one like a '50s sock hop) and play it out. Sometimes they had a theme run through the entire show.

They also introduced the acts as if they liked them. Not as if the hosts felt like they were doing both them and us a favor by having them on. Rosie always looks like "we owe her" for just showing up and talking.
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#130

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I remember the Variety shows being more glamour and glitz, not the downtown artsy black and depressing. I am so over the large monitor displays instead of set pieces!
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#131

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If I were going to restructure this (in a hurry before it dies), I would have Rosie host. No singing or dancing. I would tell her to work on her demeanor. She should be relaxed (which may be impossible) classy mostly, and casually goofy occasionally. No "hard sells."

The "door idea" might have worked, but not with celebrities clomping their way through it, plugging their latest CDs or vamping like a musical Vanna White.

I would pepper the stage with windows and doors, like an advent calendar or "Miss O'Donnell's Neighborhood." Then I would hire a cast of young, up-and-coming comics or improv actors. Let them pop through the window and add jokes or adlibs, ala Laugh-In.

Rosie can interact with them.

Each week, have a theme. '50s sock hop, '60 groovy party, '40s USO Show, '20s speak-easy... and modify the set very slightly to "dress" for the occasion.

Let the artists that come on, like Morrisette, Krakowski, Connick, Baldwin, etc. do songs and sketches that tie into that theme. They could all sing '20s songs, for instance, even if they're remixed or re-imagined for a new audience. Tie it all together.

Using the same lineup last night assuming it's a '20s show:

Those tapping twins come on and do a routine to a remix of "Fascinatin' Rhythm."
Krakowski sings "Nowadays" from Chicago.
Morrisette sings Irving Berlin's "What'll I Do?"
Baldwin does a spoof of James Cagney gangster movies.
Those acrobats do their antics to the music of the Charleston.
Connick sings "Bye-bye Blackbird."
Liza does the finale of "All That Jazz" with a full ensemble of vampy dancers.

The big door is used as a speak-easy entrance, with Rosie letting in the guests if they know the password to get in.

She introduces the guests' numbers with class, fun, a little joke MAYBE, and never ever tries to upstage them.

At one point, to mix things up, the entire theatre could be "raided" by a gang of cops who end up doing a big tap number.

One major lesson Rosie needs to learn from the queen of old variety stars Carol Burnett. She said, "Let your supporting cast do the majority of the work. Trust them, and rely on them. If you think it's 'your show,' you'll never get through it, and you'll never last."

Wise words from the legend herself.
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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Updated On: 11/27/08 at 12:06 PM

#132

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Phyllis?

Did you post something? You were listed as the last poster, but I think you're doing a "disappearing act" here again.

If so, you should get a booking on Rosie's show, stat! It's quite impressive.

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"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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#134

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Thanks, PJ! I've learned a lot (believe it or not) from producing and designing DVD menus and other motion graphics, that the best of them have "hooks" or concepts that lead you to the usual stuff. Every DVD has "play movie" or "scenes" or a "special features" page. It's expected and required. So you try to come up with an inventive way of presenting it. It doesn't have to be expensive or elaborate. It's great when you have more money to work with (I've had budgets on DVD titles ranging from $1,200 to $250,000), but budget isn't the key. You still have to "sell" it to an audience. And it needs to be imaginative. A creative, solid solution to get you to the usual places for the "content" to shine.

I'm applying the same principle here.

In a variety show, we all know we're going to get songs, dances, novelty acts, guest stars. That's the given. But where's the "hook?" The through-line? The concept? The focus.

Oh! And I forgot Kathy Griffin in my lineup. She can do the gangster movie spoof with Baldwin. A fast-talking mol to his Cagney impression. They would be great together.

Other thematic shows could be about Halloween, Valentine's, or "spring awakening," or "summer love." Or a salute to America. Or Italy, France or Mexico. Or a food-themed show. You can introduce new music in all of them. It doesn't have to be "jukebox" songs from bygone eras. Mix it up. Remix it. Rearrange it. Take a new song and contrast it with an old one. Or set a new song on the Rialto Bridge in a "salute to Venice."

The trick is to think INSIDE the box. Inside the hook, the concept, or the platform. It's a proscenium stage presenting a variety of acts, week after week. Everybody wants to think outside the box these days. And they flail and fail miserably, because they're not focused. We end up with a messy "brainstorming session" on the stage. It's a much bigger challenge to think WITHIN a structure.

But THINK.

Entertain us. Surprise us with the "known, expected presentation" of a variety show. It's easier said than done.

"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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Updated On: 11/27/08 at 02:45 PM

#135

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"If I ran the zoo," said young Gerald McGrew, "I'd make a few changes, that's just what I'd do!" -- Dr. Seuss
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#136

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“Directed by Richard-Jay Alexander.”

False: Co-Produced by RJA


”Hunter Foster, Seth Rudetsky, Janette Barber, and Eric Kornfeld wrote the show.”

Cubanputz, “whoever those people are they need to get fired”…” its very bruce vilanche academy awards podium banter... :/”



As I told Cuban in a PM:

“Maybe if you knew how to spell Bruce Vilanch's name, you'd know who the other writers were...”

His response:

“cubanpab
on 11/27/08 @ 12:18:55 AM
maybe if he (like those others) were relevant... i would

So I said, “re: whoever those people are they need to get fired to cubanpab
on 11/27/08 @ 03:43:55 PM

What an ignorant thing to say.

Bruce writes every word that comes out of Bette Midler’s mouth, along with Cher and MANY others. Not to mention starring on Broadway. Rent his movie (Get Bruce) and you will find out how 'relevant' he is.

The others are Broadway professionals who are very well known.

I guess you just would rather not know and throw lame comments at them.

Try Google. It's your friend.


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Updated On: 11/27/08 at 03:54 PM

#138

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So with NY Times:

Ms. O'Donnell can be very funny, but she didn't try very hard Wednesday night. Her opening monologue was a riff about her weight, focused on her Spanx support garments, which she described as "onesies for chubby fortysomethings." But Spanx underwear is an overused joke. As she did on "The View," Ms. O'Donnell brought up that she was gay but added a coy comedy bit that didn't really match her usual outspokenness.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/26/arts/television/26rosie-web.html?ref=arts

Updated On: 11/27/08 at 04:51 PM

#139

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(I've had budgets on DVD titles ranging from $1,200 to $250,000),

What the hell kind of DVD titles have a budget of 250k? thats some glitzy ****ing titles.
#140

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I'm sure that was the budget for the film, not just the title.
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#141

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Glad to see I'm not the only one who thought it was horrible. JustaGuy - totally agree with your assessment of Richard Jay Alexander.
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#142

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He was a CO-PRODUCER on it.

That's it.

Co-Producers don't have a lot to do with the direction of the show, they just make sure the stuff gets done.


Why don't you rag on the director, it's HIS fault.
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#143

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I think a lot of people are at fault.
Hey Dottie! Did your colleagues enjoy the cake even though your cat decided to sit on it? ~GuyfromGermany
#144

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LOL

No, that money was just for the DVD budgets, not the film.

I've worked on Star Wars, Harry Potter, Casino Royale and 200 other DVDs.

40 Blu-ray Discs, too.

Have you checked out how much those films have made on DVD??

What's a cool quarter of a million when you're DVD gross is as much or more than the film made in theatres?

Granted... that's the HIGH end of the scale, and very, VERY rare for a menu budget. It's the A++ league.

Normal budgets for DVD menus and interactive graphics (games, etc.) are much less.

And the bargain basement ("lets just use the key art and put buttons on it") is the low end of the scale. But you still have to "sell" it to a consumer. It has to be quality work, no matter what the budget is.

But once in a while, I have to say the money was sweet! And we got to dream big.

My favorite experience? Without naming the job or the studio, I got to work with a storyboard artist who did "Lord of the Rings." I came up with a solid concept for the DVD, and he drew it for me. We sold the idea, before I even opened my mouth to pitch it. I spent two weeks collaborating with his "genius."

Good times.

I've worked with Oscar-winning art directors in the past, and some jaw-dropping talent, over the years. It truly humbles me.

But it all comes down to that classic Sondheim song title:

You gotta have a gimmick.

Whether you got two bucks or a cool quarter million.

The quality is in the concept. The "hook."

That doesn't cost any money at all. (Well, except you have to pay MY salary for coming up with it!)
"Jaws is the Citizen Kane of movies."
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#145

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Apparently BWW gets testy when I mention Shields and Yarnell.

I felt very post-gay watching the two most sexless gay people in America yakking it up live on prime time tv.
#146

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Clay and Rosie?
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#149

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Is it like Post Toasties?
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#150

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Did anyone catch the very brief "reference" to The View? It wasn't really a positive one. If I remember correctly, it was in the lyrics to the production number she did with the dancing chorus boys. I was a bit enhanced at the time (Thank God!) but I remember hearing it and having to tell the person next to me that they said The View.
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