Rowling says 2 characters die in final Potter book- Page 5

[NYadgal]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 6:09pm

Very interesting article.

I love this discussion. And the book is over a year away!

[kissmycookie]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 6:16pm

Harry's godfather could re-emerge. After all, we never saw a body in Book 5... And yet again, give up his life for Harry...

[Lavieboheme3090]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 6:32pm

Speaking of not seeing a body, is she going to explain what happens in the room?

[staticradar]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 6:36pm

I'm pretty sure she's said she'll explain the veil, she kinda has to that's something important that has happened that's shrouded in mystery. I hope she does anyway, i have a feeling that the department of mysteries will play a part in book 7, it's one of those things that's mentioned and not brough up again, which usually means it'll be big in a later book and since book 7 is the last book, it's gotta be in this one.

And yes Aberforth Dumbledore is around, he's the barkeep at the hogshead, and I'm pretty sure he'll be popping up again

[shiksa_goddess]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 6:44pm

I wanna know what inappropriate charms he was using on those goats. =)

[iHeartMyGeek]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 6:45pm

I don't want Malfoy to die. I actually raelly like him. And i think he could possibly redeem himself.

Rowling has written herself into a bit of a dilemma here. Because she either has to kill Voldemort, which would be cliche, or kill Harry, which would not only be cliche but would cause riots in the streets, no doubt. I'm really iinterested to see how she's going to handle this.

[colleen_lee]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 6:47pm

Yes, but his redeption could very possibly be via his death.

[iHeartMyGeek]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 6:58pm

Yes, and then that would suck.

Is it really really awful that I kind of want Malfoy and Hermione to end up together?

[mominator]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 7:24pm

To be honest I want Malfoy, to suffer greatly. He has been nothing but a real piece of work since book one. Nopers I want him to be toast!

[millie_dillmount]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 7:28pm

"Harry's death was supposed to be the means with which Voldemort was going to create his final Horcrux..."

Hmm...well I think his scar has something to do with the Horcrux, even if it may not be the scar itself.

Aren't you all going to be happy when this one giant mystery is SOLVED???

[millie_dillmount]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 7:29pm

P.S. The creator of MuggleNet is on Facebook. Lol I friended him.

[mominator]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 7:33pm

I think I will milie. You know it is rather like, who was Carly Simon singing about, who was Deepthroat? With the latter we know, the former one person was told and I believe perished in a plane accident. So it maybe fun to all find out together.

[spiderdj82]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 7:59pm

My pick:

1) SNAPE will die protecting Harry from Voldemort. He has to redeem himself in this one and I think he will.

2) HAGRID. I don't know why, I just do.

They better not kill of Ron or Hermoine. You know how many people (including myself) will be severely pissed if she does?!?!?

[millie_dillmount]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 9:11pm

I think that Harry or Voldemort is an obvious choice, and I don't know if Rowling likes taking the obvious route. Or, maybe the solution is pretty obvious, so Rowling is trying to lead readers on to a less obvious answer.

Yes, the prophecy stated that one has to die...but one of my friends mentioned that there could be a loophole in the prophecy? If one of them has to die, then honestly I couldn't really decide if it would be Harry or Voldemort. Rowling already stated that authors are tempted to kill off the hero, and someone else mentioned that because she pointed this out, perhaps this isn't in the direction she is going in. Rowling likes to play with her readers' minds and bring up many twists and turns. *SPOILER* Remember when so many people thought it was pretty obvious that Hagrid was gonna die in book 5? But then he didn't. I don't think he was even close.

As for the second person's death, I like the theory a spiderdj82 mentioned about Snape redeeming himself and dying in the process. Even though he was in support of the Dark Side, and always loathed Harry, I had some feeling that Snape was really a "good guy." I know that sounds absurd, but I had a feeling that deep down, Snape has a redeeming quality.

Again, there are so many possibilities as to who will die in Book 7. If I were her, I don't know how I would try to hold in the secret! I know I'm going to be tempted to leaf through the pages at the end of the book.

Updated On: 6/27/06 at 09:11 PM

[millie_dillmount]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 9:22pm

Spiderdj82, I don't see Ron or Hermione dying. I think whoever dies in this book will somehow affect the wizarding world. Which is why it could be a much more important character like Harry, Voldemort, or Snape.

And another thing, if Ron and Hermione somehow die in the process of helping Harry, who would it be? If Ron dies, I don't think the outcome of that would be much different than if Hermione dies...so there is not much to do there, despite them being close friends with Harry. Which is why I think Rowling would kill off a character that would have a greater impact on the wizarding world.

Also, think about this. Harry is the one who has to kill Voldemort. If he doesn't kill Voldemort (and Voldemort kills Harry), then the wizarding world can't really do anything to fight off Voldemort, since it was Harry who had the power. Is the purpose of the books to see good triumph over evil? Or are we going to see evil triumph over the good?

[spiderdj82]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 9:48pm

I too think Ron and Hermoine are a long shot. But, I really do think it is going to be SNAPE. If you noticed throughout all the books, Snape loathes Harry, but at the same time he always kept a watchful eye out for him too (remember the broom incident in the first book and the dualing match in the second one?). As for the other one, I really don't know. I really hope that Neville plays a bigger part in this book. Remember how in either the last book or the 5th book (I honestly can't remember), when it was said that it was between Harry and Neville who would be the one to destroy Voldemort?

[millie_dillmount]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 9:50pm

But I think they declared that it would have to be Harry. Again someone mentioned that the prophecy almost made it seem like it could go either way - Neville or Harry. But I think it is definitely Harry.

[spiderdj82]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 9:52pm

True, but wouldn't it be a kick in the pants if the prophecy was meant for Neville not Harry? Hmmmmmmm . . . .

[millie_dillmount]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 9:55pm

Maybe that's a loophole?

[spiderdj82]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 9:59pm

It just seems like every book, Neville has a bigger and bigger part. I think he will be a pivotal character in the last book somehow.

[millie_dillmount]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 10:03pm

Watch there be some weird twist, like Voldemort is really Harry's father, Neville is Harry's long lost brother, and Hermione and Snape are secret lovers, or something like that.

[KelRel]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 10:06pm

Millie, that is so effed up that I could almost see Jo trying something like that.

[neomystyk29]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 10:25pm

I think Dumbledore will die in book 7. (Yes I know, I know, I know...I just have a feeling). But that's my stretch pick.

Spiderdj, Neville has to play a big part. I think we can expect the strong characters to play pivotal roles, and the extremely weak to become strong. We can also expect the extremely evil to turn good. Think Snape in book 1. Think Neville basically all the time. Think Dobby's unfounded strength.

Personally I think random things that will be pivotal are The Mirror of Erised (Harry looking at it for the horcruxes). The House Elves will play a huge part too.

[anjilly]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 11:27pm

JKR has said repeatedly that characters large and small were going to die before the series was out.

That being said, the newest bit of info tells us not that two main characters are going to die, but that two *more* characters have been added to the list of dearly departed.

Here's who I believe was always on The Death List:

Snape: it's been said before. Redemption and the choices we make defining us, etc., etc. Not too much to add here.

Wormtail: necessary, in that he will fulfill the life-debt he owes Harry (see theory below).

Here's who has been newly granted a free pass off the Ghostie Express:

Neville. Jo has often said that Neville is representative of herself- "Neville is actually quite a tragic figure to me as well, because there’s a lot of Neville in me. This feeling of just never being quite good enough. ... I wanted to show Neville doing something brave." The Connection (WBUR Radio), 12 October, 1999. When she talks about him, she refers to him as "the boy who was so nearly King" and a "might-have-been", but also says that he has a "significant part to play in the last two novels and the fight against Voldemort" jkrowling.com. When Jo has seemingly done is set up Neville to contrast Harry- where Harry shows his parents betrayer compassion, Neville wishes to kill Bellatrix Lestrange. Much in the same way Snape will die as an act of redemption, Neville will live to learn the compassion that Harry instinctively showed Wormtail.

So who is newly added to Deathwatch 2007?

Ron. Ron, Ron, Ron, Ron. And for so many reasons, not least the parallels to book 1 and Ron's sacrifice in the chess game, as mentioned by someone in an earlier post. Of course, sacrifice can be interpreted in different ways...

Hermione: if we are paralleling book 1, Hermione will reach a point where she cannot follow Harry any longer- quite literally, she will die after helping him reach the final showdown.

Did you notice...
.... that Voldemort is NOT on the death list? Remember what Dumbledore says to Voldemort at the end of OotP? I'm paraphrasing, but he said something to the effect that there are fates worse than death- something Voldemort vehemently disagreed with. I cannot, will not accept that Jo will make Harry commit the "ultimate act of evil" by killing Voldemort and thus ripping his own soul, so I believe Voldemort will survive, to live out what in Voldemort's mind is a fate worse than death: being stripped of his magic, living as a Muggle.

Okay, but what about the prophecy? Here's were The Theory comes into play: "Either must die at the hand of the other, for neither can live while the other survives."

Theory version A: If Voldemort is stripped of his magical powers, and becomes a Muggle, he would no longer BE Lord Voldemort- he'd be Tom Riddle. In essence, Lord Voldemort would no longer survive- and Harry would not be a killer.

Theory version B: The "other" as mentioned in the prophecy actually refers to a 3rd person- read it like this: "either must die at the hand of The Other"... and that Other is Wormtail, who will kill Voldemort to pay his life-debt to Harry, using his silver hand (that Voldemort created for him) to do so. Oh, and that silver hand? That oh-so-significant silver hand that Voldemort made right after he was resurrected? The last Horcrux.

And where is this final showdown taking place? Someone said it already- Godric's Hollow, of course. But think back to Jo's statements on secret keepers and Grimmauld Place. Only the secret keeper can share the location of a protected place/ person. Now that Dumbledore is dead, no one else can be let in on the location of Grimmauld Place. Likewise, Wormtail is the secret keeper for the house at Godric's Hollow. The only people who are still alive who are in on the secret are Harry, Voldemort, and Wormtail- and unless Wormtail decides to tell others where it is- NO ONE ELSE can be part of the final battle. Which is fine, because Ron and Hermione will be dead.

Updated On: 6/27/06 at 11:27 PM

[kissmycookie]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 11:32pm

What about Ginny?