Rowling says 2 characters die in final Potter book- Page 3

[millie_dillmount]

Posted: 6/26/06 at 7:35pm

"understanding the temptation to kill off the main character"

Of course, even if this implies that this isn't the direction she is going in, maybe this is another way to throw people off course.

[millie_dillmount]

Posted: 6/26/06 at 7:39pm

I read a rumor somewhere that the last word in Book 7 is "scar." Does anyone think that the Horcrux has something to do with the scar, even though they pretty much established the fact that it appeared when Voldemort tried to kill Harry?

[mominator]

Posted: 6/26/06 at 7:43pm

millie I am so thinking that the scar is the last Horcrux.

[Taryn]

Posted: 6/26/06 at 8:07pm

I keep hoping against hope that Ron and Hermione make it through intact so they can have a wonderful marriage and many super-intelligent red-headed babies. Rowling doesn't seem to be quite as ruthless as, say, George R. R. Martin (who is known for killing off any character you start to like in his A Song of Ice and Fire series), but it IS the last book... I'd never think she was referring to Voldemort, as his death is practically a fact already and would never have been changed this late in the game. I might believe she's referring to Snape, who I was already convinced is going to die after redeeming himself, but he seems too incredibly integral to the plot as well for his ending not to have been very planned out. For the characters granted a "reprieve," I'd believe Lupin (PLEASE) or Snape. Or maybe even Hagrid. All three are characters I can definitely see having planned deaths.

Just...please don't kill Hermione, Ron, or Lupin. ;_; Kill Harry all you want. Although it's harder for me to say that now that he's all, like...with Ginny. Even if they're not official at the moment.

It seems like there's just too many Weasleys for them all to make it out alive, too...

Someone mentioned everybody being taken by surprise by the end of book six... I saw that one coming a mile away. It's the basic structure of the heroic epic. The mentor has to die, and with enough time left for the hero to come into his own. As Dumbledore dying in the beginning of the seventh book would be such a dramatic and literary taboo, entirely throwing off the flow of the book, it seemed natural to me that it would happen at the end of book six. *shrug*

[Lavieboheme3090]

Posted: 6/26/06 at 8:22pm

Remember there is always Ginny...

[mabel]

Posted: 6/26/06 at 8:26pm

Ugh, I need to read book 6 ASAP, so I can read these threads without fear of spoilage (which I've already slipped up on).

[colleen_lee]

Posted: 6/26/06 at 10:59pm

I tried to keep my messages spoiler free since it was apparent that a few people in the thread had not yet read books 5 & 6 (which is mind boggling to me), I am sorry that people weren't so careful.

This just boils down to READ THEM NOW!!

[wonderwaiter]

Posted: 6/26/06 at 11:24pm

I agree that spoilers stink, but if someone's opening Harry Potter threads in June of 2006 without having read them all, they only have themselves to blame.

[soapguy17]

Posted: 6/26/06 at 11:26pm

I was afraid to read this thread at first beacuse I thought it contained spoilers about book 7. whew!

[millie_dillmount]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 12:28am

We don't even know when Book 7 is going to be released yet. How could there be spoilers? These are just rumors/predictions...I CAN'T WAIT!!!

[shiksa_goddess]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 1:29am

You know, I honestly DON'T think that Harry is gonna die. There was a mention in one of the books about "even in the coming years, when Harry looked back..." I know that can refer to his time at Hogwarts, but I am still an optimist.

As for when book 7 is release, Rowling has fed fire to the 07-07-07 rumor. As 7 is the most powerful and magic number.

[DG]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 1:36am

There is no way Harry will die - it would negate her whole reason for writing the series, and what she had to say to the world.

Anyone that Harry depends on, however, is fair game - because that plays into her whole self-reliance message.

[shiksa_goddess]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 1:40am

I think Hagrid might die. She has constantly said that his half-giant herritage protects him from most spells, but Hagrid is no match against Voldemort.

Lupin is one character that I cannot bear to see die. I love him!

Anyone else think that Tonks' ability to shape shift might come in handy, as say...a decoy?

[SueleenGay]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 3:27am

DIE, DOBBY, DIE!

[neddyfrank2]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 3:44am

I really think Ginny is going to end up hooking up with something on the Dark Side.

I also think that Harry for sure is going to die in this book, I will be disapointed if he doesn't. The theme of the book as Rowling has said is Good vs Evil and Death. I think that Harry will find out he is the last Horcrux (sp?) and either kill himself or let someone else kill him so that he can make sure Voldemort ceases to live. Or there is a good old fight and Harry dies.

[staticradar]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 7:57am

I don't think Harry is a horcrux for the simple reason as Why would Voldemort make a horcrux out of a person for one and for two why would he make it the person that he wants to kill more than anything in the world? Also I don't think you can "accidently" make a horcrux, how can you accidently split your soul? The way it's described it sounds like a complicated bit of magic and not something that could just be transferred to anything. So I really don't think that he's a horcrux. I could be wrong, but something in me tells me that isn't right, and I thought that it might be when I read the 6th book and then actually sat down and thought about it and realized it didn't make as much sense as I had originally thought. I think one of the horcruxes is going to be something right in front of their eyes. I think maybe Tom Riddle's trophey for special services might be one.

As for who dies, I think Snape, Draco, Voldemort and possibly one of the weasleys, maybe Percy to redeem himself, and Wormtail.

I would love this to be a scene though. Imagine Neville finally having Bellatrix cornered and being filled with so much hate because this is the person that tortured his mom and dad and get out the first syllable of an unforgivable curse and then drop his wand and tell her that he's not going to stoop to her level and that not even she deserves what she did to his parents. And then maybe hit her with a stupify or something as harmless that would just detain her and not kill her and then she ends up getting killed in an accidental crossfire or something. I want her dead for killing Sirius and doing what she did to Neville's parents and as much justice as it would be for Neville to be the one to take her down, I don't think his heart would let him. That's just a scene I've had in my head since book 5 haha, hmmm maybe I need to write a Neville fanfiction...

[colleen_lee]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 8:04am

I also agree about Harry not being horcrux. Voldemort intended, and has attempted on several occasions, to kill Harry. In fact, Harry's death was supposed to be the means with which Voldemort was going to create his final Horcrux, of course that didn't go as planned. Harry isn't a horcrux.

Harry won't die. He won't. It would negate so much of what Jo has been pounding into our heads these past 6 books, her means are much better served by keeping him alive. Everyone else is completely fair game though.

I liked the idea someone gave of Ron turning out to be the storyteller at the end. I don't think that's going to be the cast, but the idea is really a spectacular one.

[Magdalene]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 9:36am

07/07/07 is plausible, since it is a Saturday (and those Friday midnight sales are so wll attended!!!)

The last word is scar---JK has said that before. I think the scar may be the Horcrux, and when Voldemort is defeated it disappears.

[mabel]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 10:19am

I know Colleen! I do need to read them, NOW! I'd put off reading them for years, but was finally pursuaded to read them (even managed to get quite the deal picking up all of the first 5 in paperback for about $12 total!). I think I may just have to mooch 6 off someone, because I don't really want to wait until July 26 for it to come out in paperback!

You all have been very good about keeping things spoiler-free, but I suppose I'd best stay away just to be safe.

[KelRel]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 12:42pm

I have a feeling that Neville will die. Because...

***SPOILER***

In the prophesy it was ambigous as to if it was referring to Harry or to Neville. Voldemort assumed it was Harry. I wouldn't be suprized if Neville really was the chosen one and he ended up having to be the one that died to kill Voldemort.

[staticradar]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 12:50pm

Kel the only thing wrong with that theory is that the prophesy, according to Dumbledore, could've gone either way, but Voldemort chose who it was going to be and chose Harry. It would be a let down if we followed Harry all this time and it turned out "oops nope the storry isn't Harry's it's Neville". I don't think that's the case. It's all about choices, is a running theme in the book, Harry choose to be a Gryffindor, so did Hermoine for that matter, and Voldemort chose Harry as his equal. I just think that's how it's set up so that's how it'll be...just my take on the books and how the choices come into play. I do think that Harry will defeat Voldemort in a very unconventional way, maybe through compassion and understanding and love, what Harry has that the Dark Lord knows not. I think it would cheapen things to make Neville the true Chosen one, because basically he's not, Voldemort didn't chose him...

MHO, from someone who has read the books waaaaaaaaaay too many times lol

[KelRel]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 12:56pm

Static, true, but there is going to be something BIG from Neville. If there isn't I will be truly shocked. Choices play a big role, but I think that destiny has something to do with it too.

[staticradar]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 1:09pm

I too think big things are in store for Neville, but I think it'll have more to do with him coming into his own powers and helping Harry and a showdown with Bellatrix I think is eminent. I still can't subscribe to the theory of him being the chosen one, mostly because the whole series is about Harry to have it switch and really be "haha it's not about Harry at all" seems kinda short changing us and cheating us. We've built up the Harry/Voldemort show down that to not have that happen would be cheating the reader and series, in my opinion, there's a reason it's Harry Potter and the ___ ____ ____ and not Neville Longbottom and the ____ ____ ____. I love Neville to death, he's one of my favorite characters and is my favorite of all the kids, but I think he will just be one to help out in a big way, possibly taking down Bellatrix or at least having a showdown with her. I think he's just going to prove himself to be the real wizard we all know him to be and not a boarderline squib as he's been painted to be. But then again I could be wrong, the best part about speculation no one is right or wrong and all theories are possible :) I just don't see it as very probable, but if it happens I'm sure JK would make it work...

[KelRel]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 1:12pm

What I love and hate about these books is that it is SO easy to come up with numerous theories about what will happen and the way that Jo writes almost anything could happen. I don't want this book to come out because I don't want the series to end, but I am dying to know what happens.

[Bal]

Posted: 6/27/06 at 1:23pm

To whoever was speculating about Dumbledore; there was a line in one of the books as Harry described to him what had happened that a gleam of "something like triumph" flashed through his eyes... I always assumed that Dumbledore was a "bad guy". The last book kind of made me question that, obviously, but it's still a possibility...

On topic: I think it would be really effective if she killed Hagrid, but I highly doubt she will. She likes him too much.