So how does Biden help Obama win? — Page 3

no, no, not you, q. i was talking directly to his campaign. or at least his bww outreach director.

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Just woke up to the news. Oy.

Biden's not awful - had it been Nunn, I would have been livid instead of dissapointed. But Obama's given McCain the advantage to pick someone "interesting". If McCain picks a woman, Obama's "change" is going to seem awfully hollow.

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Updated On: 8/23/08 at 06:19 AM

Please explain to me like I'm a 2 year old:

Obama, the candidate for change, the person who said Hillary Clinton was part of the Washington machine and old politics, picks Joe Biden as his running mate? Joe Biden, the epitome of Washington. Seriously, WTF?

Never thought I'd say it, but I'm thinking McCain because Obama has shown his true side. I just don't get it. With Hillary on the ticket, the White House is a lock. Is he so threatened with her that he makes a decision that will cost him the election? That poor judgement already tells me he won't make good decisions as president.

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If in your heart of hearts you don't want to vote for Obama (for whatever the reason), you'll be able to find a million and one reasons not to between now and November if you look hard enough. But seriously, his decision to choose Biden as his running mate, while predictable and safe really isn't party-changing worthy.

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Updated On: 8/23/08 at 08:46 AM

The only thing that could conceivably mitigate this is McCain's people remembering to give him his Metamucil and Ovaltine and putting him to bed long enough to make sure he doesn't change his mind and select someone besides Romney.

Truly, all he needs to do is grab a woman or Joe Lieberman and Obama's toast. Either one will let the MSM has a field day with who's more about change (say what you want, but only plugged in people get that Lieberman's a DICO - Democrat in Caucus Only and they'll play up the bipartisanship forever) and, with McCain already claming "experience," the only thing left will be the inevitable return of a massive liver spot on McCain's forehead to dissuade people from voting for old farty.

you think Lieberman would help McCain? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

that man would sink McCain instantly I'm PRAYING he picks him.
OH and MC, if you think that Hillary not bein gon the ticket was ANYONE but hillary's decision, than you're delusional.

blah blah blah, white man, blah blah, only Hillary, blah blah only getting my vote, nothing more, blah blah, Hillary, blah, just another politician, blah blah, what might have been, blah blah November, blah blah, might even vote for McCain, blah, blah, if only, blah blah, Hillary, Hillary Hillary...

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"I just saw a clip of Biden at a debate commenting on Obama's lack of experience and that you can't learn leadership from on the job training. I can see McCain's campaign strategists licking their chops right now."

Yet Hillary would have been a good choice for you??? Shall we review the things she's said about Obama that make Biden look like Obama's BFF? That's very interesting logic, and says a lot.



"Ah, the male ego. Such a tragic thing that always gets in the way of good decision making."

LOL! see above.


Bottom line, in the real world, is most of the press response to this is very positive, and polls are already showing people think it was a good choice by two to one. Polling comments from those who think it was a bad choice overwhelmingly say he should have picked Hillary. So there you go. My guess is that for most of the naysayers, any choice other than Hillary would have been a disastrous deal breaker.

Really, besides Hillary, who else would have made folks here happy? It's not a fabulous choice. But who would have been a fabulous choice? Biden does the most important thing for the election. He eases the doubts of the folks who are afraid of Obama. He's old, white, catholic and stable. All the things that the folks Obama still needs look for. And he compliments Obamas economy strengths with his foreign affairs strengths.


POLL

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Updated On: 8/23/08 at 09:16 AM

"Really, besides Hillary, who else would have made folks here happy? It's not a fabulous choice. But who would have been a fabulous choice? Biden does the most important thing for the election. He eases the doubts of the folks who are afraid of Obama. He's old, white, catholic and stable. All the things that the folks Obama still needs look for. And he compliments Obamas economy strengths with his foreign affairs strengths."

Well said, arts. End of story.

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I'm not going to pretend that Biden was my first or second choice, but he's certainly not a bad choice. There are a couple of things you look for in a VP. Is he is viable president, how will he do in a debate, and can he help on election day? I think the first two are a solid 'yes'. The third is a 'maybe'. Biden is a native Pennsylvanian and very popular there, and he is also very popular with older voters. He may help lock up Pennsylvania, and may be helpful in Florida. His bio is also compelling - widower very young, commutes home to his family in Delaware every day.

Is he a gaffe machine? Absolutely, but his gaffes pale in comparison to McCain's.

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Phelps unfortunately is too young ... now, Obama-Torres would have been exciting!

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Biden? How boring.

This has been a major disappointment.

I'll still vote for Obama.

But I won't watch the conventions.

I won't campaign for him (this will be the first time I won't be working for the democratic nominee).

I won't donate any money.

I won't urge my friends to vote.

If he gets elected - good. If he doesn't - we'll live.

He does have the ability to make me want to do more. Likewise - he could still lose my vote. We'll see what happens.

Updated On: 8/23/08 at 09:59 AM