Broadway Legend Joined: 10/18/04
Of course it makes sense. Also, I prefer Godfather 2 to Godfather 1.
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/3/04
I always think it's odd that newer films don't make the top ten (with the exception of Schindler's List, which is, imho, the best film of all time). But, the newer films not making shows that this list is more a list of the "most discussed by critics" films instead of the best films of all time.
Don't forget it's the top American films. Some of the great films recently have been foreign. Not as in another language (although that too) but as in produced and directed in another country.
Well what newer films actually deserve to be on that list?
The only film of the last few years that deserves a mention on there is BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN - and it will be on the list at some point. It's too new to dub it a title "of all time." They've got to stand the test of time a little bit.
Why are people complaining about OZ "dropping" to 10 and GONE WITH THE WIND dropping to 6? They're still in the top 10. That's pretty damn good.
They've got to stand the test of time a little bit.
But isn't the point of doing a new list after only a few years to include some newer films?
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/18/04
"Well what newer films actually deserve to be on that list?"
Maybe Eternal Sunshine?
I've only seen 25 of those. Time to update my netflix queue.
I kinda hate the new list.
Wanna know why? Guess what all of these movies have in common...
The Birth of a Nation
The Jazz Singer
All Quiet on the Western Front
Frankenstein
Mutiny on the Bounty
Stagecoach
Wuthering Heights
Fantasia
The Third Man
An American in Paris
A Place in the Sun
From Here to Eternity
Rebel Without a Cause
Giant
The Manchurian Cadidate
My Fair Lady
Doctor Zhivago
Guess Who's Coming to Dinner
Patton
Close Encounters of the Third Kind
Amadeus
Dances With Wolves
Fargo
That's right. None of them are on the list anymore.
I love Raging Bull as much as the next fellow, but... #4? Seriously?
Updated On: 6/21/07 at 05:08 PM
broadway86 - you make a good point - some of those films being knocked off really makes very little sense. And the restructuring at the top is also strange - I agree with those who say Wizard of Oz at 10 is ridiculous. To be honest, I don't get Citizen Kane at all - I've watched it twice and it's just OK. Casablanca, The Godfather, Wizard of Oz, Gone with the Wind and Singin' In the Rain are all significantly better -- I'm just ignoring Raging Bull because good film, yes, but #4??? Come on!
The lack of Disney movies on there is amazing -- I really expected to see Fantasia, Pinocchio, and Beauty and the Beast on there...
From Here To Eternity is off? I didn't notice that until now. That's a real shame.
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/16/05
The only thing it seems that they've done is update it to make it worse really. Shawshank Redemption that low? Really?
To be honest, I don't get Citizen Kane at all - I've watched it twice and it's just OK.
I used to HATE it. But, I watched it last summer, and it shot up to my top 10 of all time. I'd definitely consider it in the same class as Casablanca, The Godfather, Wizard of Oz, Gone with the Wind (my #1), and Singin' in the Rain. Certainly leagues above, imho, Raging Bull.
OK I have only seen 19 movies on that new list. and only 3 on broadway86's list. man I really do need to watch more movies lol. ok not gonna happen until 2011 but still
broadway86, you must really like The Third Man if it made your list twice.
Another thing about Citizen Kane is Welles was what, 25, 26 years old when he directed it? To see shots like that at such a young age is just incredible, IMO.
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/30/05
Pootie Tang isn't on the list? GODDAMMIT!
I'm ashamed to say I've only seen 8 of the movies on the list.
I need to see more movies.
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/30/05
And Beverly Hills Cop III isn't on the list? What the hell are they smoking?!?
broadway86, you must really like The Third Man if it made your list twice.
Whoops. Love it, though.
Where's TITANIC?
Titanic is #83.
Toy Story could be on the list because it was the first Disney/Pixar movie, and while it wasn't the first computer-animated movie, it started the trend of computer animation becoming the norm as opposed to the rarity. Snow White and the Seven Dwarves is probably on the list because it was the first full-length animated movie.
I've seen about half the movies.
Ok. Thanks, tazber. I couldn't find it.
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/15/03
I've seen them all at one time or another.
Well, these lists come and go and things move up and down. What are you gonna do.
I do have to say that I do not understand:
1. The ongoing delusion that SINGIN' IN THE RAIN is some kind of masterpiece. Yeah, yeah, its fun and all that, but one of the Greatest EVER? Sorry, no way.
2. The ongoing delusion that Clint Eastwood's films are of any real interest whatsoever. There isn't a single one that I'd exhale to save from the flames.
Oh, well. This is the same organization that has given its Lifetime Achievement Award to Tom Hanks and Barbra Streisand and the really surrealistically over-rated Eastwood, but not to Francis Ford Coppola.
And FORREST GUMP on a list of the 100 Best Anything? I mean really.
Buncha straight boy movie geeks having a circle jerk. That's all.
I like watching the AFI lists when they come on every year. I think they should have also included Cover Girl. The scene where Gene Kelly does a dance off with himself in a mirror is pretty fantastic to watch (in my opinion.)
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