The AFI posts their 100 Greatest Films of all tine- Page 3

[C is for Company]

Posted: 6/21/07 at 9:50pm

"2. The ongoing delusion that Clint Eastwood's films are of any real interest whatsoever. There isn't a single one that I'd exhale to save from the flames. "

HAHA, Roscoe that was quite fantastic. I agree that it can be so fascinating to see who or what is deemed legendary and where it all comes from.

[Jane2]

Posted: 6/21/07 at 9:56pm

I never could understand why Citizen Kane seems cemented in as all time best film ever made. I wonder if any film will ever knock it out of that slot~

[jasonf]

Posted: 6/21/07 at 10:10pm

Jane - that's a good question.
If you go by imdb's list (which is the average person voting, Citizen Kane is down at number 23
(And sorry Clint Eastwood haters - there is at number 4 (That's "The Good, The Bad and the Ugly"). More disturbing -- The Wizard of Oz is number 102 on the list - not even in the top 100!

https://www.imdb.com/chart/top

1. 9.1 The Godfather (1972) 219,916
2. 9.1 The Shawshank Redemption (1994) 261,783
3. 8.9 The Godfather: Part II (1974) 125,037
4. 8.8 Buono, il brutto, il cattivo, Il (1966) 66,587
5. 8.8 Pulp Fiction (1994) 224,322
6. 8.8 Schindler's List (1993) 153,961
7. 8.8 Casablanca (1942) 102,668
8. 8.8 Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980) 163,985
9. 8.8 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) 201,736
10. 8.8 Shichinin no samurai (1954) 56,499
11. 8.8 One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975) 112,554
12. 8.7 Star Wars (1977) 202,143
13. 8.7 Rear Window (1954) 66,079
14. 8.7 12 Angry Men (1957) 51,122
15. 8.7 The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001) 239,224
16. 8.7 Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) 140,428
17. 8.7 Cidade de Deus (2002) 69,802
18. 8.6 Goodfellas (1990) 118,933
19. 8.6 The Usual Suspects (1995) 159,951
20. 8.6 C'era una volta il West (196 34,591
21. 8.6 Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964) 97,339
22. 8.6 Psycho (1960) 82,155
23. 8.6 Citizen Kane (1941) 89,172
24. 8.6 North by Northwest (1959) 55,019
25. 8.6 The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) 193,218
26. 8.6 Memento (2000) 149,308
27. 8.6 The Silence of the Lambs (1991) 140,531
28. 8.5 Fight Club (1999) 196,750
29. 8.5 Lawrence of Arabia (1962) 48,127
30. 8.5 Sunset Blvd. (1950) 28,353
31. 8.5 It's a Wonderful Life (1946) 61,763
32. 8.5 The Matrix (1999) 220,812
33. 8.5 Fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain, Le (2001) 102,457
34. 8.5 American Beauty (1999) 170,545
35. 8.5 The Departed (2006) 104,796
36. 8.5 Taxi Driver (1976) 81,235
37. 8.5 Apocalypse Now (1979) 102,240
38. 8.5 Vertigo (195 52,585
39. 8.5 Se7en (1995) 147,843
40. 8.4 Léon (1994) 96,911
41. 8.4 Laberinto del fauno, El (2006) 53,851
42. 8.4 American History X (199 110,061
43. 8.4 Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004) 110,016
44. 8.4 Paths of Glory (1957) 24,027
45. 8.4 Chinatown (1974) 42,477
46. 8.4 To Kill a Mockingbird (1962) 48,494
47. 8.4 The Third Man (1949) 29,593
48. 8.4 M (1931) 21,278
49. 8.4 The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (194 17,331
50. 8.4 A Clockwork Orange (1971) 106,484
51. 8.4 Alien (1979) 99,435
52. 8.4 Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975) 96,142
53. 8.4 The Pianist (2002) 62,395
54. 8.4 Untergang, Der (2004) 36,458
55. 8.4 Sen to Chihiro no kamikakushi (2001) 50,528
56. 8.4 The Bridge on the River Kwai (1957) 34,606
57. 8.4 L.A. Confidential (1997) 102,854
58. 8.3 The Shining (1980) 88,633
59. 8.3 Boot, Das (1981) 43,893
60. 8.3 Requiem for a Dream (2000) 92,569
61. 8.3 The Maltese Falcon (1941) 30,614
62. 8.3 Double Indemnity (1944) 19,478
63. 8.3 Reservoir Dogs (1992) 115,912
64. 8.3 Saving Private Ryan (199 156,189
65. 8.3 Hotel Rwanda (2004) 41,271
66. 8.3 Metropolis (1927) 20,915
67. 8.3 Raging Bull (1980) 47,561
68. 8.3 Aliens (1986) 97,517
69. 8.3 Modern Times (1936) 17,859
70. 8.3 Sin City (2005) 124,530
71. 8.3 Leben der Anderen, Das (2006) 15,248
72. 8.3 Rashômon (1950) 20,756
73. 8.3 Singin' in the Rain (1952) 32,079
74. 8.3 Grindhouse (2007) 31,889
75. 8.3 Forrest Gump (1994) 153,087
76. 8.3 Rebecca (1940) 19,036
77. 8.3 The Great Escape (1963) 33,521
78. 8.3 2001: A Space Odyssey (196 95,980
79. 8.3 Some Like It Hot (1959) 39,252
80. 8.3 All About Eve (1950) 20,384
81. 8.3 Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991) 122,545
82. 8.3 Amadeus (1984) 56,742
83. 8.2 Touch of Evil (195 18,416
84. 8.2 The Manchurian Candidate (1962) 21,766
85. 8.2 Sjunde inseglet, Det (1957) 17,685
86. 8.2 Vita è bella, La (1997) 59,928
87. 8.2 Jaws (1975) 77,045
88. 8.2 The Prestige (2006) 65,900
89. 8.2 On the Waterfront (1954) 22,157
90. 8.2 The Sting (1973) 37,390
91. 8.2 Strangers on a Train (1951) 18,047
92. 8.2 The Elephant Man (1980) 28,860
93. 8.2 Full Metal Jacket (1987) 79,255
94. 8.2 Batman Begins (2005) 122,249
95. 8.2 Nuovo cinema Paradiso (198 23,945
96. 8.2 Braveheart (1995) 142,691
97. 8.2 City Lights (1931) 13,185
98. 8.2 The Apartment (1960) 18,502
99. 8.2 Blade Runner (1982) 109,115
100. 8.2 Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (1939)

[best12bars]

Posted: 6/21/07 at 10:11pm

I'm tired of Raging Bull placing that high too.

It's good. But not THAT good.

And Wizard of Oz should be 4 or 5 at the least... NOT 10.

And Chinatown is not aging well. It was dreadfully boring the last time I watched it. And I used to love the film.

Updated On: 6/21/07 at 10:11 PM

[SueleenGay]

Posted: 6/21/07 at 10:26pm

The only film of the last few years that deserves a mention on there is BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN - and it will be on the list at some point.

Well, if Gump can make it onto that list anything is possible, Munk.
I have seen 88 of the films on that list, and although I don't care for some of them nor agree with the ratings of others, I don't find it all that embarrassing a selection.

[broadway86]

Posted: 6/21/07 at 10:29pm

And Chinatown is not aging well. It was dreadfully boring the last time I watched it. And I used to love the film.

Odd. I first saw it only one or two years ago (and recently, as well) and I think it's fantastic. Terrific acting (Dunaway blows me away in this), smart direction, and one of my favorite screenplays ever. Updated On: 6/21/07 at 10:29 PM

[munkustrap178]

Posted: 6/21/07 at 10:31pm

I do not think that TOY STORY, GOODFELLAS, and PULP FICTION deserve to be on that list.

[broadway86]

Posted: 6/21/07 at 10:34pm

The only film of the last few years that deserves a mention on there is BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN - and it will be on the list at some point.

Agreed. However, there are many "recent" movies that I would consider to put up there:

Far from Heaven
Moulin Rouge (will probably be up there eventually, too)
AI: Artificial Intelligence (bring it on, bitch)
Million Dollar Baby
Chicago
Brokeback Mountain
The Truman Show
Shakespeare in Love
The English Patient
Remains of the Day
Howards End
Almost Famous
Mulholland Drive
The Pianist
Adaptation

Not sure if Children of Men is eligible.

Oh, and Pulp Fiction deserves its spot.

[cturtle]

Posted: 6/21/07 at 10:49pm

i LAUGHED when i saw RAGING BULL ... that is just so funny!

[tazber]

Posted: 6/21/07 at 10:51pm

I'm not sure how many of those films are American bway86.

But where the hell is Network and Philadelphia Story?

Edit- Network is on there. And so is Lord Of the Rings which I also did not think was American.

Updated On: 6/21/07 at 10:51 PM

[wonderfulwizard11]

Posted: 6/21/07 at 10:53pm

Philadelphia Story is on there.

[Dark_Angel]

Posted: 6/22/07 at 4:34am

I can't believe a 10 time Academy Award Winning classic like West Side Story scores so low on the AFI list and not at all on the imdb list.....WTF?

[Evan Almighty]

Posted: 6/22/07 at 4:40am

This "list" is a huge joke.

[husk_charmer]

Posted: 6/22/07 at 8:21am

Personally, they can't re-update every 10 years...not enough has happened...every 25, ok, I'll buy that...but TEN? And just because they felt bad for not including "Titanic" because it was too recent when the first list came out.

[RockabyeHamlet]

Posted: 6/22/07 at 5:10pm

I've only seen 14 films on that list, and none of them were in the top 5. That's pretty sad. Oh, and I kinda hated Pulp Fiction.

I'm actually surprised Beauty and the Beast didn't make it onto that list, mostly because it was the only animated film ever nominated for Best Picture. I also would have put Mary Poppins on that list.

[raphael06]

Posted: 6/22/07 at 5:28pm

I bet it would be very interesting to sit in on these discussions in which they were evaluating the various movies and the criteria for "greatness".

Updated On: 6/22/07 at 05:28 PM

Posted: 6/22/07 at 10:42pm

It's hard to explain to someone who "Hated" Citizen Kane, but every moment, every shot, every element in that film is not only brilliant but absolutely ground breaking. I happen to think the story is fantasitc and well worth watching even if every other dazzling aspect (Performances, design, photography, sound) was removed, but I hear that complaint a lot so some people must find it dull.

If you watch other films of it's time, and then watch Kane, it's absolutely jaw droppingly ahead of it's time. One thing that I keep thinking about is that Welles used every second,every shot, every sound perfectly to tell his story. There is not so much as a paperclip out of place or even so much as a wasted second in that film.

Sorry-- It's so brilliant I could talk all night about it.

[steveshack]

Posted: 6/23/07 at 9:09am

Citizen Kane is there because it is a great film -- but also because of its "firsts." Every film after it owes it a debt. Kane changed moviemaking forever.

I've seen 95 of the films on the list. Does a copy of "Intolerance" still exist? I thought it had been lost.

[shesamarshmallow]

Posted: 6/23/07 at 9:23am

Wow - this is the first place I've looked where I haven't been the person who's seen the most, at 79. I'm very impressed, y'all!

From Here to Eternity being knocked off is a crime.

[steveshack]

Posted: 6/23/07 at 9:25am

I've seen most of them because I'm old.

Posted: 6/23/07 at 10:01am

I'm old too-- and can remember the days when these films showed all the time on TV-- I remember watching Bridge on the River Kwai on TV with my Dad, Annual viewings of the Sound of Music & Oz, and King Kong was a feature on the "Afternoon Movie." Kids today don't know what they are missing!

[jam_man]

Posted: 6/23/07 at 10:25am

I also think it's a bit interesting that Star Wars dropped three spots from the 1997 list, from 10 to 13, therein "proving" that the prequel trilogy has slightly hurt it's legacy of quality. This time, Return of the Jedi wasn't even on the 400 nomminated movies list.

[JohnBoy2]

Posted: 6/23/07 at 1:25pm

Many films that I find completely mediocre, and many that I downright despise, are on that ridiculous list. Since when is Lawrence of Arabia an American film?