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#301

The Healthcare.gov website is horrible!

Total nonsense. There is a big difference between a website that only provides information (with the data that they got from Healthcare.gov) and a site where you can actually sign up. You would have to know nothing about IT to think it's the same thing.
#304

The Healthcare.gov website is horrible!

Besty,

Did you figure out how much you will be saving with the credit?
HUSSY POWER! ------ HUSSY POWER!
#305

The Healthcare.gov website is horrible!

I have to agree with Ex-Siny here. I highly doubt a web site where someone has to provide a wealth of personal information can be set up in only 3 days. There are too many components invloved.
#307

The Healthcare.gov website is horrible!

There is a big difference between a website that only provides information (with the data that they got from Healthcare.gov) and a site where you can actually sign up. You would have to know nothing about IT to think it's the same thing.

Oh now I get it. It takes 2 years, 47 contractors, and at least 300 million dollars to create a website where you can actually sign up. (But you couldn't actually sign up but I guess that's beside the point.)

#308

The Healthcare.gov website is horrible!

Actually, since contracts were awarded in 2011, they had less than 2 years for development. This is a very complex site that has to communicate with multiple government agencies (all running on different platforms, I am sure). So, no, three college students could not replicate it in 3 days for $100.
#309

The Healthcare.gov website is horrible!

So, no, three college students could not replicate it in 3 days for $100.

EXACTLY!

I do have a problem how this was all rolled out...they had more than enough time to strategize, work out the kinks, etc. but to then go ahead and claim it could have been done in 3 days...please. Just another "straw" for those orangutang tea-partiers to grasp and shriek, "Oooh, Oooh...see I told ya! I told ya!"

@ Roxy: You need to whacked upside the head WITH A CIGAR for your sheer stupidity.

#310

The Healthcare.gov website is horrible!

Yeah, I don't even really know or care about the guys who claimed it took them three days. That is absurd. But Ex-Siny, you must agree (as Carlos does) that the rollout was incredibly botched and while you keep denying that you're defending that whole mess, your actions speak louder than words. Perhaps you don't even realize you are doing it? Not that it matters to me.
#311

The Healthcare.gov website is horrible!

Obviously the rollout was botched. But I am reading all kinds of silly statements about how "my son could do it in an afternoon" and such. They must be getting it from the Teabagger Talking Points memo.
#312

The Healthcare.gov website is horrible!

Nope. If you don't buy every easily exposed bit of nonsense about the ACA and its website, you're just an Obama apologist. It doesn't matter how much you criticize those elements that deserve criticism.

(And before you ask, those who DO believe every bit of said nonsense are simply clear-eyed realists.)
#313

The Healthcare.gov website is horrible!

The problem isn't just a broken website; the problem is Obama's broken promise that you could keep you current healthcare plan if you liked it. PERIOD.

Most, not all, Democrats running for reelection are running from the rules inherent in the ACA bill because millions of people are losing their coverage now. That is a fact. And many more working for large companies will after the one year grace period is up. If this wasn't the case, Bill Clinton would not have come out today saying that he believes that the government, meaning Obama and the Democrats, since they passed the ACA, should live up to their promise and allow people to keep their coverage.

But the rules in the ACA don't allow for that because everyone's coverage must be totally comprehensive. So some Senators are frantically trying to pass something which will allow people to keep their current/old policies.

It is a fiasco but I personally feel that the broken website is just the catalyst which put everyone's attention on this huge change in our society.
#315

The Healthcare.gov website is horrible!

Oh c'mon dented with a d not rented with an r cuz dented with a d goes duh not rrrrrr. Millions? Millions?

I am constitutionally unable to take self described libertarians seriously, I mean it's the one form of government that has succeeded even less than communism, but for Ayn's sake, get it together.


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Updated On: 11/12/13 at 11:26 PM

#316

The Healthcare.gov website is horrible!

dented,

the problem that people like you don't see (or worse, do see) is the following.

when i was working my more "middle class" job, i was earning $50,000+/year. take note that this is far above the median. the job was in research and was therefore unstable due to funding issues. i lived a frugal existence, making my own meals and using public transportation. during this time, i had a cancer scare--i feared that i had leukemia. i wondered what would happen if i lost my job and then found out. the price tag for chemo and a bone marrow transplant, assuming it works, is ~ $250,000.

knowing that, with that salary, i was above the median, you HAVE to know there is NO WAY for the average joe to save that sort of money for a "rainy day" in the event that they lose their job. what you are saying when you resist universal access, is that you think it's fair that my savings should be wiped out in the event of an illness that is not of my doing. meanwhile, romney, the drs. paul, and even obama, what's $250,000 to them? they have that in a side account, i'm sure. how is this situation fair?

this, btw, is part of the reason religion is not "just an opinion." this absurd resistance to health care appears to be rooted in a sinister calvinism/predestination, which posits that, in some sense, people are sick because they deserve. this is not true. THIS IS NOT TRUE. THIS IS NOT TRUE.

by "taking responsibility" (the right wing credo), presumably by say, exercising, not smoking, eating right, and avoiding certain chemicals, you only decrease your chances of medical illness. but because we are all mammals, we are all bound by the laws of biology and evolution. the worst case of heart disease i have seen involved a rail thin man who was a vegetarian and a dedicated runner. everyone on this board, in particular, should know this, with the celebrated case of that poor young girl in the lion king of died of leukemia. medical illness does not know you are sweet, talented, and loved by many people. and one need not pick leukemia or heart disease or something rare. one needs only to be hit by some drunken loser, something that happens every day. long term care in a nursing facility runs up $180,000/year.

if you don't like the current idea, come up with something better. many people wanted a single payer system, but what is in place now was explicitly a compromise for people like you. of course, no matter what, there will be wait times, errors, and what not, but the great shame of the american medical system is that it is the #1 cause of bankruptcy. NO ONE should have to go bankrupt because of medical illness.

"it is a shame that people put a price on charity." -- peter hitchens, CONSERVATIVE BLOGGER

Updated On: 11/13/13 at 12:40 AM

#317

The Healthcare.gov website is horrible!

Besty,

Did you figure out how much you will be saving with the credit?


I have two more days until the magic date of "November 15th" arrives. That's the date they tell me I will finally be able to either edit or delete my incomplete application (from six weeks ago) and add the missing financial information. Then I'll know what my discounted rate will be.

So I'll report back on or after the 15th and let you know how it all went. Thanks, Dame!
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#318

The Healthcare.gov website is horrible!

Bethnor, the mantra of those good, Christian, pro-life folks is "But why should I pay for your (insert disease here). Because, you know, they'll never get sick, ever. And heaven forbid they pay for someone's maternity care - because, you know, why should they pay for someone else's baby ? I would not even call it Calvinism - just sheer ignorance and stupidity.
#319

The Healthcare.gov website is horrible!

Ex-Siny, do you think a single gay man should have to pay for maternity and spousal coverage? A simple yes or no will suffice!
#320

The Healthcare.gov website is horrible!

Yes, he should pay for maternity coverage. Not sure what you mean by spousal coverage since nobody is required to have one. And should a single, young woman pay for prostate exams, colonoscopies and other diseases of an old age ? A simple yes or no please.

Also, should people be able to opt out of AIDS coverage ? Yes or no, please.

Updated On: 11/13/13 at 10:45 AM

#321

The Healthcare.gov website is horrible!

"Ex-Siny, do you think a single gay man should have to pay for maternity and spousal coverage? A simple yes or no will suffice!"

I know you didn't ask me but I would answer yes.

Saying that you're for Obamacare, or healthcare reform in general, but you're also for insurance companies being able to continue to offer sub-par plans is like saying you're for a tax increase to improve infrastructure but also for everyone being able to keep their same tax rate.
It doesn't make any sense.

Updated On: 11/13/13 at 10:49 AM

#322

The Healthcare.gov website is horrible!

"And should a single, young woman pay for prostate exams, colonoscopies and other diseases of an old age ?"

It should be optional.
#323

The Healthcare.gov website is horrible!

But it's not optional. A young woman must pay for men's diseases and various diseases of an old age, but men and old people can refuse to pay for maternity coverage. Is that fair ?
#324

The Healthcare.gov website is horrible!

"A young woman must pay for men's diseases "

...And she should not have to. That is my point. Feel free to rip me one-thousand ways to Sunday for voicing that, if you wish.
#325

The Healthcare.gov website is horrible!

Who is ripping you ?
If people start paying only for coverage that they are likely to use, then it's no longer insurance. It's a pay-as-you-go system. Get sick ? Pay your entire bill. Can't afford it ? Too bad.
Is this what you want ?

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