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#977

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I really hope that is not the name as well. Not only should it be "Larry and I" re: The Official Adam Pascal Love Thread, Part 13!, nut that is actually an odd name for a CD in general.

I began a fan of Rent by the movie, but I also knew it was a Broadway show, and I read up about it, and the actors. If I like something, I tend to look up facts about that thing. I can't be a mis-informed fan. :)
"I'm sort of like a child genius without being a child or a genius."~Tim Rice-Oxley
#978

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Oh, wow, good point. Their last day is supposed to be the 7th, and I doubt Adam is going to take off two shows on the 6th (a Saturday) to play the NACA Conference, but you never know.

And yes, that would be an awful title from a marketing standpoint.

Updated On: 8/24/07 at 12:48 PM

#981

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What is the NACA?

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#982

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Yeah, I remember hearing about that. Too bad that he might be skipping out on something that could prove helpful just because he has a couple days left in Rent, though!
#983

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I agree, the CD should have a more interesting, representative title. The songs I've heard so far are quite haunting and that title gives no hint of it.

I also believe there hasn't really been enough publicity. A few weeks ago I mentioned that I was seeing Rent with Adam and Anthony to someone who:
a: is an actress currently in NYC, though based in LA
b: has a husband currently involved in musical theater here
c: is familiar with the show and the original cast
d: had no f*cking clue that Adam and Anthony were back

She's also the mother of toddlers so probably hasn't spent much time on a leisurely perusal of the Times or surfing the web, but if the news hasn't reached her, then I think it hasn't been put out there enough.
#985

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thanks jenna!

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#986

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Chloe, I wasn't going to post to disagree with you before, but now that you've mentioned it again, I'll put in my two cents. re: The Official Adam Pascal Love Thread, Part 13! First of all, from a fan's perspective, of course it would be wonderful to see more publicity for their return and have anyone who might be interested in seeing them informed as to their return. However, from a business perspective, I don't think you can simplify it quite to the extent that you have.

Frankly, it sounds like the woman in your story missed the news mainly due to chance and misfortune rather than a lack of advertising. The news of their return has certainly spread enough within the musical theatre community that her husband has to know; it's just unfortunate that her husband didn't think to mention it to her. Anyway, even if the current advertising hasn't been far-reaching enough to inform her about their return, advertising isn't about making sure that every last person who might be interested in something is aware of whatever you're trying to advertise. In fact, as you might know, the costs of informing every last person about something rise as the percentage of people you're reaching rises. For example, it might cost $10/person to reach 75% of your target audience, but as you try to push your percentage to 80%, it starts to cost $15/person and so on. It all comes down to cost/benefit analysis, and unfortunately, that means that the producers might lose the business of some people who would go to the show if they were better informed (but in actuality, save money because the additional advertising would cost them more than it's worth).

Currently, Rent is selling to, what, 98-100% capacity? If fewer and fewer people start showing up, by all means, advertise more, but just because every last person isn't informed about their return doesn't necessarily mean more advertising is required.

Updated On: 8/24/07 at 01:11 PM

#987

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That is what I was thinking, if the theatre is full they are not going to spend more money on advertising.

What I am surprised about is that there hasent been more publicity, wich I feel is different than advertising. I know I don't live in the NY area so mayby there is locally but I expected to see the boys on a few talk shows or something!
...and still you hold on, to every old song... - Adam Pascal
#988

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Hopefully, Adam will find inspiration and come up with a better title. I can't imagine the album being taken seriously by most people (especially English Teachers :P) if that is the final name.
"I'm sort of like a child genius without being a child or a genius."~Tim Rice-Oxley
#989

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Publicity and advertising are two different things, but they largely serve the same purpose, no? I mean, the idea is to get butts in seats -- they're just two different means of acheiving the same end. So if there's not a call for one, why the other?

A work of art is an invitation to love.

Updated On: 8/24/07 at 01:21 PM

#990

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And on a totally different note...

I always go a Google News search on Adam, and then hit the "blog button" and it searches them (I do it by date). Well today most of the links popping up are his name on porn sites! I was looking briefly and saw "Adam Pascal" and then "naked teens" next it and was quite dumbfounded for a brief second. I mean it is obviously nothing and just random spam garbage, but it was interesting.

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#991

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Wow, that's different!

I live north of NYC and almost everyone I know doesn't know about the Return, Rent fan or not. I did tell quite a few people about it, but I'm not sure if they wanted to see them.


"I'm sort of like a child genius without being a child or a genius."~Tim Rice-Oxley
#992

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I was talking with someone yesterday about how a lot of times theater PR is done solely in the Broadway community, like Broadway.com and BWW, and that they overlook a lot of the target audience (in the case being movie fans) by not targeting teen and entertainment magazines.

I still think a little more could've been done, but the ticket prices speak for themselves. Granted, they're not going to get a huge billboard in the middle of Times Square. They've been in almost every major NY newspaper, so it's obviously a big deal. We could argue about this forever and get nowhere. I just think that most people that would go see Rent have also seen the movie, and from what I've seen, a good number of them had no idea that the Mark and Roger they were about to see were the same from the movie.
#993

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Me and Larry? That just reminds me of like, Ernie and Bert. Or that song in the commercial for the "My Buddy" doll back in the early 90s... wherever I go, he goes, my buddy...my buddy and me..

Okay, so now I'm really hesitant to buy tickets to their last performance. I want to do it soon, but now I'm wondering if a) they will change the date again, or b) Adam will leave earlier, or something.

As for the advertising/publicity discussion, I can understand both sides of the argument. Yes, they are selling out and it seems more than enough people are aware of their return. On the other hand, if we're looking at it from a broader perspective than just that of a business strategy - that is, we want in some way for the publicity to spread word of the show in general - then yes, it would be nice to see more advertising. Yes, they are currently filling seats - but what about when Adam and Anthony leave? It would be nice to ideally have more people become interested in the show who would hopefully return after Adam and Anthony's run is over. And yeah, we could argue about this until the cows come home. In all honesty, I think they've done a good job - as you just said, they've been in several newspaper/magazines. Broadway advertising is a funny thing, it seems.

The morning star always gets wonderful bright the minute before it has to go --doesn't it?

Updated On: 8/24/07 at 01:30 PM

#994

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Publicity and advertising are two different things, but they largely serve the same purpose, no? I mean, the idea is to get butts in seats -- they're j ust two different means of acheiving the same end. So if there's not a call for one, why the other?

Publicity is free, just takes time to make apperences. And I guess that, to me, it seems that when a show is doing well you start seeing it pop up everywhere. Maybe my perseption is off, but lets take a popular TV show for example Grey's Anatomy, to my knowlege it didnt need help to gain viewers but the actors made several apperences last season because people want to see them. Or even on Broadway, Spring Awakening to my knowledge doesnt need much help in the sales department but they pimp out those boys every chance they get.
I think that Advertising creates a buzz about something
and
Publicity keeps the buzz going

idunno
...and still you hold on, to every old song... - Adam Pascal
#995

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Not all publicity is free. Do you have any idea how much a TV appearance can cost Broadway producers? Yes, it takes time to coordinate things, but if it were all free, there'd be a hell of a lot more of it. Just generally speaking. That's why the idea of FREE press can remain such a novelty.
A work of art is an invitation to love.

Updated On: 8/24/07 at 01:32 PM

#996

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technical definitions:

Advertising - Advertising is paid, one-way communication through a medium in which the sponsor is identified and the message is controlled. Variations include publicity, public relations, product placement, sponsorship, underwriting, and sales promotion. Every major medium is used to deliver these messages, including: television, radio, movies, magazines, newspapers, the Internet, and billboards.

Publicity - Publicity is the deliberate attempt to manage the public's perception of a subject. The subjects of publicity include people (for example, politicians and performing artists), goods and services, organizations of all kinds, and works of art or entertainment.

From a marketing perspective, publicity is one component of promotion. The other elements of the promotional mix are advertising, sales promotion, and personal selling. Promotion is one component of marketing.

Between the client and selected target audiences, publicity is the management of product- or brand-related communications between the firm and the general public. It is primarily an informative activity (as opposed to a persuasive one), but its ultimate goal is to promote the client's products, services, or brands. A publicity plan is a planned program aimed at obtaining favorable media coverage for an organization's products - or for the organization itself, to enhance its reputation and relationships with stakeholders.

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#997

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Something like Spring Awakening is open-ended, though, whereas Adam and Anthony will only be here for a few more weeks. If the point is to advertise/publicize Rent as an entity, then by all means, Adam and Anthony should be on every morning talk show. It's pretty obvious that the producers are past the point of caring about marketing Rent in general, though (of course we could get into a discussion as to whether this is a healthy perspective on their part). However, if the point is just to advertise Adam and Anthony's return to the show? Of course they could put more money into marketing, but why should they have to if they're selling out every night? And why force them on every talk show when you don't need to? Once you fill the seats, all additional money spent on marketing is wasted.
#998

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apparently I have made you angry. I wasnt trieng to!

Funny thing is that I typed and erased the words " I know nothing about this type of thing but, " I guess I should of left it!

All I am trieng to say is that I expected there to be more, I am not upset or disapointed that there wasnt, nor do I pretend to have any idea why, I was just surprised.

And NO, I have no idea how much T.V. apperences cost, so they charge producers for apperences on things like The View or Lettermen?
...and still you hold on, to every old song... - Adam Pascal
#999

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I'm not angry. You were just incorrect. re: The Official Adam Pascal Love Thread, Part 13!

TV appearances are expensive for a lot of reasons, not limited to, but including union rules about paying actors. So, for example, if publicity were free, Raúl would not have been singing by himself at the '07 Tonys. I don't know numbers for something like a talk-show appearance, but the cost for something as big as the Tonys can be unfathomably high.
A work of art is an invitation to love.
#1000

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Didn't Tamyra have a TV spot on channels like NBC? I saw her on TV once in a commercial advertising Rent. They could've done that with Adam and Anthony.
"I'm sort of like a child genius without being a child or a genius."~Tim Rice-Oxley

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