The Official Adam Pascal Love Thread, part eleven- Page 89

Posted: 11/3/06 at 11:22pm

Well, it doesn't sound like he was exactly rolling in offers.

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 11/3/06 at 11:24pm

Right, exactly. And like I said, I totally get that a job's a job, but continuing to take on the rock star persona seems totally counterintuitive to proving himself and all that.... not that I need him to prove anything to me, per se, I certainly believe in his talent, but most people still need proof on this one.

Posted: 11/3/06 at 11:29pm

I honestly think it's probably one of the few roles he's been offered, so he figured it's better to take a role that continues to pigeonhole him as a performer rather than not to take any movie role at all. I can't imagine he read the script and thought it was brilliant.

Don't get me wrong, I'm definitely not looking forward to this movie, but he probably figures it's one of the only ways to get his name out there in the movie world, especially considering he's probably not getting many offers that don't involve being a rock star or singing at this time.

We are so being the dog that bites right now! Adam, we love love love you, we just don't want you to be washed up at 36.

[CanadianSnowbird]

Posted: 11/3/06 at 11:32pm

I definitely agree, I'm only messing around because the movie concept leaves a lot to be desired.

I don't know exactly what was said at these concerts, but I personally don't really care if Adam is reading this. I'm not going to censor what I would or wouldn't say just because he may see it. Plus I've probably already come off as an idiot or a crazy fan-girl so I just don't see the need to change the way I post now. It's not like he knows me.

And if you are reading, come to Torono pretty please

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 11/3/06 at 11:36pm

I know, meh. As I typed that I was like "uuuum, if he's reading, I guess I'm going to bite him." I don't know, I'm in a bitey mood. And I'm honest about even my favorite performers. The fact is that if I have no problem being honest to them DIRECTLY, I'll apologize for what I say here, but I probably won't end up doing much censoring even though I'm like "I swear I'll be nicer!" It's not like I'm consistently negative or overall not nice, you know? I love the guy to pieces.

Anyway, you're right, Lexi. And those things said, it still doesn't sit right with me, but they're all totally practical ideas.

[CanadianSnowbird]

Posted: 11/3/06 at 11:42pm

I just think it's silly to censor yourself. Everyone here loves him, that's why it's his love thread. And maybe we're judging him for his choices without knowing the whole story, but he is just doing the same stuff. I mean we were able to pick which character he would be in Cold Case from about five different scripts.

Posted: 11/3/06 at 11:42pm

Oh, it doesn't sit right with me either, Em. I hope you feel better, by the way!

Heh, I'm feeling bitey, too. :) I doubt even Adam thinks this is some brilliant film, though, so maybe we're not being as horrible as we think.

ETA: Sarah, that's my point, though - he's probably doing the same stuff because he's not being offered anything else. I mean, he openly admitted that offers haven't exactly been pouring in. If he were offered the lead in some romantic comedy backed by a major studio, I'm sure he'd take the job in an instant. I doubt he's unwilling to expand his horizons. It probably has more to do with others not allowing him to do so. Updated On: 11/3/06 at 11:42 PM

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 11/3/06 at 11:47pm

Thanks. I'm ok. A little achey, but ok. I think I just need to sleep off whatever I have.

[CanadianSnowbird]

Posted: 11/3/06 at 11:48pm

No, no. I complete understood that from the beginning, he obviously wouldn't be making the same sort of low budget movies where he plays yet another rock star if he could avoid it. It was just easier and funner (I don't care if that's not a word) to just attack the movie, I'm having a bitchy week.

Posted: 11/3/06 at 11:49pm

Oh, okay. Sorry, I'm kind of out of it and not feeling too well.

I'm watching clips of Bill Maher on the forbidden site. I love him, even if no one else does.

[Mandi Moo]

Posted: 11/3/06 at 11:51pm

I love Bill Maher.

[Chloe]

Posted: 11/3/06 at 11:59pm

Actually, I'd rather he take a role in which he'll be singing. He said he wouldn't be in another musical, then ended up in Aida, which was wonderful. This movie may very well not be any good - in fact probably won't be - *any* movie has long odds to beat in order to be good, but I don't think he'd do something that he believed was crap going in. He must have seen something in it that he felt was worthwhile. However, it's always a total throw of the dice. Look at Temptation - a sung-through musical based on a classic story, performed by a bunch of really talented Broadway people. On paper it sounds very promising.

One thing I've had to learn the very hard way is that loving someone doesn't mean criticizing his judgment, suspecting his motives, and telling him what to do. With fans and a performer it doesn't really matter a whole lot, but don't try it with anyone you actually want to have a relationship with.

[CanadianSnowbird]

Posted: 11/4/06 at 12:02am

It's definitely easier to criticize Adam for that reason. I don't know him, and he has absolutely no idea who I am. I can say things and not really worry about them coming back to bite me in the ass.

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 11/4/06 at 12:02am

I agree with that in the sense of... especially with a relationship, you shouldn't behave like you're LOOKING for things to criticize, you know? And I don't think we're per se looking for things here. They're kind of presenting themselves. This is not totally related, but obviously the anonymity makes it easier, you know? Not that that stops me, even in a performer/fan setting.

Hehehehe Temptation.

[orangeskittles]

Posted: 11/4/06 at 12:11am

Does Sundace have an award that's the equivalent of a Razzie?

No, they're just not invited to appear. Sometimes the rejects go to Slamdance instead, but it's not exactly the same honor.

Maybe my cold is making me loopy, but geez, y'all are being so hard on him. I don't mind if he's typecast as a rocker in movies- at least he's getting his name out there and doing something. All actors are consistently typecast, but some of them manage to make rather lucrative careers out of it. It's much easier than competing for the same parts as Brad Pitt.

I mean, yeah, the movie doesn't sound like it'll be winning any Oscars for original screenplay, and personally I cracked up at the "Hillel's Angels". But I'd much prefer him to be in a role like this as opposed to being cast as "Disgruntled Neighbor" in some Law & Order episode. At least he'll be onscreen enough to actually have a CHANCE to "showcase his talents."

And honestly, like Open House is any better?

Posted: 11/4/06 at 12:17am

Aw, skittles. I agree, I just don't think I expressed myself in the best possible manner.

I still can't exactly say that the movie itself looks good, but now that I'm over the shock of the goofy plot description, I really do think that being in a starring role of some kind is a step in the right direction of some kind and definitely doubt he's actually vying to be typecast. I just wish it looked like a better film - that's all. I'm greedy.

[Chloe]

Posted: 11/4/06 at 12:19am

You're in the extremely elite group of people who have actually seen that, so don't rub it in, Emcee!

For most of us, human nature and our upbringing make it much easier to see things to criticize than to praise, so we don't even have to go looking. Let me pass on something I learned in my work, part of which involves correcting performers who are trying to redo their lines in sync. I came to realize that there is a positive and negative way to say anything regarding a mistake. Say someone starts the line too late. I can say "you were late" or I can say "start a little earlier on the next take." The first stings, the second doesn't nearly as much.

You may think it's ridiculous for anyone to be sensitive to being told something like "you were late," but the truth is, everyone reacts badly to criticism no matter how minor. It also creates a tacit negative expectation. I was really interested to then read the NY Times article about the woman who decided to try "training" her husband the same way animal trainers do their work. Instead of nagging about all the things he did she hated, she started extravagantly praising everything he did that she liked and ignoring the rest. It worked incredibly well. Pretty soon he was putting his clothes in the hamper and helping with the dishes.

Updated On: 11/4/06 at 12:19 AM

[sweetestsiren]

Posted: 11/4/06 at 12:41am

I think that fans can be more critical than anyone, given that they often have higher expectations. It's kind of a blessing and a curse. We don't have to agree with every career choice, but we also have to face that we don't know the whole story regarding why they were made. So... I guess we'll see.

Chloe, that article you mentioned sounds quite a bit like the model that tends to be advocated in psychology for lots of training things, even parenting. I totally can't imagine actually behaving that way all the time, but it's interesting.

I love Bill Maher, too! Very along my lines of humor, even if I'm not 100% in line with him politically.

[Chloe]

Posted: 11/4/06 at 12:50am

I didn't realize it was a generally recognized method, Ashley, but I don't know much about psychiatry. Now that I come to think of it, I should probably be taking that approach with the people who work under me as well. It's so much easier to tell someone what he did wrong than what he did right.

I'm sorry, I just get a kick out of this -

Posted: 11/4/06 at 12:52am

Ashley and Chloe, both of you are so wonderfully level-headed. And Ash, I agree with what you said about Maher. When I disagree with him, I disagree with him vehemently, but I generally can find at least some morsel of truth in what he has to say.

Okay, I can admit that this is at least mildly amusing (from the fake "rock star's" website):

My Turn-ons:

Screaming fans, the rush of the crowd, stadium lights, music that comes from the heart, Grey Goose, rack-and-pinion steering, wet bars, hot background dancers, low-cut jeans, low-cut tops… low-cut anything.

My Turn-offs:

Sneaky paparazzi, lying gossip columnists, “where are they now?” TV shows, speed limits, so-called authority figures (especially state troopers), Elvis impersonators, tribute bands, stuck-up people, has-beens & wannabes.

if only because I think Adam would play that so well.

[sweetestsiren]

Posted: 11/4/06 at 1:07am

That does sound cute, Lexi. Confession: when I read the "low cut jeans" part, I thought they meant it in regards to wearing them, but on further reading clearly they mean on the opposite sex. Oops! Also, Maher's New Rules are about the funniest thing ever. I love political humor in general. There's just so much to poke fun at, I guess!

Hehe, that's too funny, Chloe. About the psychology thing, I think it's quite useful in certain situations, but there's something that seems weird about the idea of using it all the time. I'm sure some psychologist or other has. B.F. Skinner, maybe?

[Chloe]

Posted: 11/4/06 at 1:22am

No, I agree it wouldn't be appropriate all of the time, and an endless string of compliments could get boring. Still, I wonder how many people actually try this very consistently.

I'm falling over - good night!

[Ariella]

Posted: 11/4/06 at 10:16am

I don't know whether I'd be worse at receiving or giving the excessive compliments. Although the worst of my obtuse teenage phase is over, I still wouldn't react well with fawning flattery. Oh well, "everything in moderation except moderation" as they say.

Here's what I find most confusing about Adam's choice of this project - in his L.A. times interview, he talked about disliking the current and future material on Broadway because it wasn't right for him. Nevertheless, he's pursuing a movie that, as Emcee said, will pigeonhole his career and stereotype him as a performer. So he's fine with being snobbish (I hate to use that word but can't think of another right now) about theater projects, but he's willing to accept ANY bone they throw him in the movie industry? It just seems strange, especially since his ultimate plan is a return to Broadway.

And I'd just hate to see him do anything that's truly detrimental to his career. I think he's incredibly talented and shouldn't need to be so desperate. Sorry if I'm being harsh.

[CanadianSnowbird]

Posted: 11/4/06 at 11:56am

Chloe what you described is exactly what I'm learning, maybe I should've put it into practice :P. Although I'm learning it for young children, we're learning to talk without discouraging them and let them do there own thing, we're learning for High Scope Daycares, if anyone knows what those are. They're not structured, and they're more child-centred.

[luvtheEmcee]

Posted: 11/4/06 at 12:02pm

That beer is hilarious.