The Official Adam Pascal Love Thread, part three — Page 45

#1101

homosexual and what it means

Posted: 8/25/05 at 10:41pm

I personally love the scene with Roy and Henry in Angels in America in which Roy explains that homosexual is unrelated to sexual preference because men who sleep with men can be found everywhere and anywhere, but only those who call themselves homosexuals are consistently seen as underpowered nobodies who 'can't get a F*CK*ing antidiscrimination bill through congress'.

Penguin, that sucks. But be greatful someone notices you're talking- my class discussions consist of me and the teacher. Everyone else sleeps.

Updated On: 8/25/05 at 10:41 PM

#1102

Sunday in the Park

Posted: 8/25/05 at 10:43pm

My one thing that I really do love about college as opposed to high school is that there's not so much social tension. By virtue of having chosen where I am, I'm surrounded by people who I respect, rather than who I'm embarassed to be around - people with great intelligence and great opinions. I'm so thankful for that; I truly loathed high school.

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A work of art is an invitation to love.

#1103

Sunday in the Park

Posted: 8/25/05 at 10:43pm

hmm..I had posted something...and I have no idea where it went. o.O I need to look for it..I hope I didn't sent it to someone or something..

Anyway, I had said that I would be offended or mad at someone if they used it with more things along with it like something like..."That's gay. Doing (whatever thing they are insulting) is like being gay..." Then I'd be like "what is that supposed to mean?" or something...you know? : lol...It's weird.

#1104

Sunday in the Park

Posted: 8/25/05 at 10:45pm

Speaking of judgmental, I've given up reading the Trailer threads - they've devolved into bickering as usual. "Religious" people who hate and RENTheads who bicker - life is full of ironies.

#1105

Sunday in the Park

Posted: 8/25/05 at 10:45pm

I love that scene as well, nia. That was one of the things that hit me hardest upon initial viewing. (urgh, I forgot to bring that home I was going to use this week to get re-acquianted with it.)

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A work of art is an invitation to love.

#1106

Sunday in the Park

Posted: 8/25/05 at 10:46pm

I never like my voice to be faded into the crowd...so I'll like discussions. : P

Yeah, alot of people out there get way into the religious sense of things and totally ruin things for people... : (

#1107

Sunday in the Park

Posted: 8/25/05 at 10:47pm

You should show AiA to your Mom, Nia!

#1108

Sunday in the Park

Posted: 8/25/05 at 10:47pm

That scene has one of the greatest impacts of any in the show because so few people have ever thought of homosexuality meaning that. It's a new idea.

I don't read the trailer threads. My eyes will roll out of my head if I do.

Jean, so you just don't like it if they're specifically equating bad with gay as opposed to just using it as a passing insult?

#1109

Sunday in the Park

Posted: 8/25/05 at 10:47pm

i've quit the trailer threads too Chloe,just plain scary

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"While some feel it is a film related question, I seem to think it may be a 'I am thinking of losing my winkie' sort of question."
-cheezedoodle

#1110

Sunday in the Park

Posted: 8/25/05 at 10:48pm

yes it is interesting about terminology the prefered term here is "queer"
Jeanclaude what you say is exactly why I think most of us should avoid the term. I don't think you can accidentally send your message personally, maybe it just didn't take. Lost posts and double posts happen often.

Emcee, unfortuanately the tension is really high for me again, in part because of some of these issues and then the divide behind ideology in general, everyone chose to come here for VERY different reasons.

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I stand corrected, you are as vapid as they say.

#1111

Sunday in the Park

Posted: 8/25/05 at 10:48pm

I gave up on the trailer thread, too. This is more interesting, anyway.

ETA - Penguin, you totally lost me. I think you're referring to school, and if you are, considering WHERE you go to school, I can totally see how that would come into play. *pat pat* I hope it gets better.

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A work of art is an invitation to love.

Updated On: 8/25/05 at 10:48 PM

#1112

Sunday in the Park

Posted: 8/25/05 at 10:49pm

Yeah I guess...I know it might be dumb, but I mean, I use it, but it's not on purpose either...it's just a thing that people are used to saying...I just don't mind, unless they actually insist on saying that gay, and that action or thing, are bad and stupid. Then I'd say something about it...

Or if someone uses it for like every single thing they see...then I'll tell them to shut up.

#1113

Sunday in the Park

Posted: 8/25/05 at 10:51pm

So, then jeanclaude, I'd be curious - again, if you don't mind saying so - what do you refer to yourself as, since you're used to the term "gay" being used a different way? I've been sort of intrigued by that - the different ways in which people choose to refer to themselves, and the rigid technicalities that are part of those terms.

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A work of art is an invitation to love.

#1114

Sunday in the Park

Posted: 8/25/05 at 10:51pm

i agree,this is much more interesting,u guys express opinions w/out yelling at each other,so much better

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"While some feel it is a film related question, I seem to think it may be a 'I am thinking of losing my winkie' sort of question."
-cheezedoodle

#1115

Sunday in the Park

Posted: 8/25/05 at 10:52pm

oh no is the new trailer thread going badly too.
I want to stay away, but I always wind up involved. *tries not to look* I hate the arguing but always someone says something SO Ridiculous I can't help it.

yep Em, it is WHeRE I go. I chose it and I am so glad to live here, but sometimes it is too much for me. (do we have a rep over where you are?)

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I stand corrected, you are as vapid as they say.

#1116

Sunday in the Park

Posted: 8/25/05 at 10:53pm

Why is the word 'queer' preferred? That puzzles me. Words are only words!

#1117

Sunday in the Park

Posted: 8/25/05 at 10:53pm

I refer to myself as gay...I don't think it's a bad thing..I don't think being gay is bad at all...since I am...

It's just a random word used as like..well..saying for example:

"We have three hours or homework to do"

"That's gay...: ("

But I don't use it on purpose, or said "I'm going to use gay as an insult! yay!"

Nothing like that...

#1118

Sunday in the Park

Posted: 8/25/05 at 10:53pm

Ellie, she'd never let me watch or read it again! I wish I could, though, but I think it'd be so much of a shock to her that she'd miss the point entirely.

Jean, that makes sense in a finer-details sort of way. If they're not insulting gay people, just using the world out of habit, I can see it being less offensive.

#1119

Sunday in the Park

Posted: 8/25/05 at 10:54pm

Nia, I'm sure your teachers must find your conversations challenging. Any progress on the college front?

Unfortunately hip-hop may have contributed to all the gay insults going around high schools now. All the better that Kanye West has spoken out against homophobia. Now there's a brave guy. It's a sad historic pattern that various minorities tend to turn against each other.

#1120

Sunday in the Park

Posted: 8/25/05 at 10:55pm

sry,we keep bombarding u w/ questions Jean,what's the worst name for someone gay,used by someone straight,for u?

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"While some feel it is a film related question, I seem to think it may be a 'I am thinking of losing my winkie' sort of question."
-cheezedoodle

Updated On: 8/25/05 at 10:55 PM

#1121

Sunday in the Park

Posted: 8/25/05 at 10:56pm

I am really not sure, but I got a real lecture for refering to one of my friends as homosexual (not by him incidentally) Homosexual is unacceptable to some because apparently it is accoiated with heterosexual being the norm. I don't really agree, but that's what I was told.

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I stand corrected, you are as vapid as they say.

#1122

Sunday in the Park

Posted: 8/25/05 at 10:57pm

Really? Thats gay. (hehe..I had to) But why would he go out and talk against it. That's dumb, especially since there are many more supporters of it now..especially with all the gay guys on tv now...

Edit: I think...just as in any person. An insult said with complete passion to the insult, can be hurtful, whatever insult is being used. As one would imagine, 'faggot' said with a hurtful and passionate hateful tone would hurt anyone..especially one who's gay.

Updated On: 8/25/05 at 10:57 PM

#1123

Sunday in the Park

Posted: 8/25/05 at 10:58pm

I tried to get my mother to watch AiA. She read a magazine instead of paying the TV screen any mind at all.

nah, Penguin - you guys don't have a visible bad rep where I am... not that I've heard of, anyway.

Chloe - I had MTV on randomly this evening, and there was something about hip-hop and homophobia. But the guy was using way too much slang for me to have any idea of what he was ACTUALLY saying.

I had read a great article where Anthony Rapp addressed the difference between calling yourself gay and calling yourself queer. I don't remember where it was, though. I'll look.

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A work of art is an invitation to love.

Updated On: 8/25/05 at 10:58 PM

#1124

Sunday in the Park

Posted: 8/25/05 at 10:58pm

Well maybe one day, Nia! I'm sure she'd enjoy it...maybe if you fore-warned her of it's content, and gently co-erced her into watching it, she might change some of her opinions such as all gay men are flamer-types who do nothing but make out!

Just don't be in the room with her when she's watching it.

#1125

Sunday in the Park

Posted: 8/25/05 at 10:59pm

agh, Ellie, my mom's one of those who things all gay men are flamers. She's always baffled when she meets one that's not.

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A work of art is an invitation to love.