The Official Adam Pascal Love Thread, part three- Page 46
The Official Adam Pascal Love Thread, part three
insomniak
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/7/04
#1125Sunday in the Park
Posted: 8/25/05 at 11:00pm
I could try, Ellie, but she'd tell me she had no time (and she doesn't) and that that would just be too wierd and why did she let me watch it at all; she'll have to more closely monitor my media now...
Hip hop slang is WIERD. It's another language.
#1126Sunday in the Park
Posted: 8/25/05 at 11:01pm
Jeanclaude, are you talking about Kanye he is talking out against HomoPHOBIA, not homosexuality. It is a positive stance in a community that has not made much progress toward gay rights.
That would be interesting Em, I'd love to see it. I'm glad we don't have a bad rep, most of us are really sweet people. Just VERY opinionated!
I stand corrected, you are as vapid as they say.
#1127Sunday in the Park
Posted: 8/25/05 at 11:01pm
I think...just as in any person. An insult said with complete passion to the insult, can be hurtful, whatever insult is being used. As one would imagine, 'faggot' said with a hurtful and passionate hateful tone would hurt anyone..especially one who's gay.
Edit: I said that in my last post, as an edit, just making sure you guys see it to see if you agree..
#1128Sunday in the Park
Posted: 8/25/05 at 11:03pm
I've always liked this:
Rapp also says he prefers using the word queer instead of gay to describe his sexuality. I think, primarily, I am a homosexual - politically, socially, and sexually," he says. "but I say 'queer' because I've had girlfriends and boyfriends. And I still really enjoy sex with women. To me, queer means that you have toe potential to love someone of the same sex, but maybe not exclusively." In fact, he adds, his ultimate fantasy is to be with a man and a woman in "some sort of crazy Wedding Banquet kind of family."
I guess it's a little relevant to this.
I always find it interesting, as well, that seeing as "faggot" is usually considered the most offensive term - Larry Krarmer titled one of his books Faggots; and uses the word very often in his texts, when one gay man addresses another.
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Chloe
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/28/04
#1129Sunday in the Park
Posted: 8/25/05 at 11:03pmThe thing about words is that they shape our perception of the world. Cultures create languages, but languages also define cultures. For instance, I've always been fascinated by the fact that Gaelic has no word for "no." The way to say "no" in Gaelic is the equivalent of "yes, but." The result is that those who speak only Gaelic have to relate to each other in a certain way.
#1130Sunday in the Park
Posted: 8/25/05 at 11:04pm
Emcee, I just listened to Franklin Sheppard Inc. on the Merrily OBCR, I can't imagine seeing your av sing that song. I'd die of joy or something.
I stand corrected, you are as vapid as they say.
Ellie3
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/20/04
#1131Sunday in the Park
Posted: 8/25/05 at 11:04pm
Maybe ten years from now, you and your Mom could sit down and watch it together. Maybe she'd be less affronted if she read it first? I want her to watch it, Goddamnit! Everyone should see it!
And rep for what, Pengers? I'm confuzzified.
theatrebabe
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/22/05
#1132Sunday in the Park
Posted: 8/25/05 at 11:04pmyea,i read this book once and there was this quote that said "an insult it's self cannot hurt,but the manner of it's delivery can"
"While some feel it is a film related question, I seem to think it may be a 'I am thinking of losing my winkie' sort of question."
-cheezedoodle
-cheezedoodle
#1133Sunday in the Park
Posted: 8/25/05 at 11:05pmNo, Penguin - don't die! This picture actually reminds me slightly of a little dance bit in Merrily. I really like this score. A lot.
#1134Sunday in the Park
Posted: 8/25/05 at 11:05pmOOOH....I thought you said homosexuality...Okay then. Well good for him. : P Sorry.
Ellie3
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/20/04
#1135Sunday in the Park
Posted: 8/25/05 at 11:05pm
That's interesting, Chloe and Emcee.
My grandmother speaks Gaelic - it's an odd language!
#1136Sunday in the Park
Posted: 8/25/05 at 11:08pmGaelic is beautiful! Odd, but very pretty, I think.
insomniak
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/7/04
#1137words and what they do
Posted: 8/25/05 at 11:08pm
Chloe, that's fascinating. I can see how that would work- if you can't outrightly refuse anything, it breeds the habit of being roundabout and polite. I wonder how that affects development- are Gaelic speakers traditionally less radically angry? Would a culture without curse words or harsh insults be full of bottled up anger or laid back people?
If one gay man calls another faggot, it's alright. But if a straight one does it, it's a mortal crime. Same goes for certain terms used in place of 'African American'. For whom is political correctness excusable?
Ellie, if only... And the script is worse (better)! There's sex.
#1138Sunday in the Park
Posted: 8/25/05 at 11:09pm
I have to say while intent is very important having control over the language and the use of the word in a given context is also very important. as in Jeanclaude's earlier example:
"We have three hours or homework to do"
"That's gay...: ("
The use of "gay" here, while not in anyway involved in the act is predicated on "gay" being undesirable, and its use in this context can now be used as conotation in reverse. someone says "I'm gay" and the first thought to enter your head is "that sucks, like too much homework" 
I stand corrected, you are as vapid as they say.
#1139words and what they do
Posted: 8/25/05 at 11:09pm
Exactly, nia. It's like the N-word complex. And then we return yet again to hip-hop music!
Extra sex ain't so bad. I'm afraid to touch my AiA script; I think it's going to fall apart if I pick it up!
Chloe
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/28/04
#1140Sunday in the Park
Posted: 8/25/05 at 11:10pmThat's a fascinating quote from Anthony. I think that Stephen Daldry (the director of Billy Elliot) actually lives in that kind of arrangement. He was involved with another man for years, then married someone and had a child with her, but I think his first partner is still around, along with a lot of other people. Apparently he's got a sort of informal commune around him. There's something appealing in that.
#1141Sunday in the Park
Posted: 8/25/05 at 11:10pmYeah..I hate the whole "gay guys are all flamers" thing that everyone has. I really hate it when people say "He doesn't look like it" and they don't believe you. Okay...why wouldn't you believe someone that they are gay just because they don't act or look like a female? My friend's mom did that, and she gave me a whole sermon once about how being gay is bad...I hated that so much. I wasn't disrespectful to her or anything, being my best friend's mom...but...I don't agree with her whole religious view...
theatrebabe
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/22/05
#1142Sunday in the Park
Posted: 8/25/05 at 11:11pm
yea,the gaelic language is beautiful,go to irish fest every year,so i'm around it queit a bit,and my parents liaten to lots of irish music,
i think it's fasinating that wether u mean yes or no is totally dependent on the delivery
"While some feel it is a film related question, I seem to think it may be a 'I am thinking of losing my winkie' sort of question."
-cheezedoodle
-cheezedoodle
#1143Sunday in the Park
Posted: 8/25/05 at 11:12pmI agree, Chloe. Something appealing, indeed. The whole family idea is so comfortable. If only it weren't so idealistic.
#1144Sunday in the Park
Posted: 8/25/05 at 11:14pm
"Extra sex ain't so bad. I'm afraid to touch my AiA script; I think it's going to fall apart if I pick it up!"
Your mind is funny....Sex to AiA...although, under the circumstances, I see how YOU connect them.
Ellie3
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/20/04
#1145Sunday in the Park
Posted: 8/25/05 at 11:14pm
Hmmm. I'm not opposed to it, but I think I'd prefer monogamy personally.
Updated On: 8/25/05 at 11:14 PM
insomniak
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/7/04
#1146Sunday in the Park
Posted: 8/25/05 at 11:14pm
Poor jean...
My dad once saw a guy who was certainly a queen by night- long red nails, long curly hair, slender and graceful. He told my family over dinner about the things he and his friend said about this guy; really rude, gawking-in-a-zoo type comments. Some people don't realize that even the flamers are real people with real feelings too. Like Angel in Rent.
Penguin, that is one negative effect of accepting 'gay' as an ok insult if it's used casually. It associates the word with 'bad' and creates a bias toward ACTUAL gay/queer/ect people.
Chloe
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/28/04
#1147Sunday in the Park
Posted: 8/25/05 at 11:14pmOy, your mom's friend... how can people be so stupid and hurtful?
#1148Sunday in the Park
Posted: 8/25/05 at 11:15pm
The problem is the word while used in a position of power vs using the word in order to empower yourself. I've read some books on the subject but it is really complex, generally. When I say it, it "automatically" has a different meaning than when jeanclaude says it.
Ellie, well Em and I are close. I know my school is opinionated, and generally has a rep in the religious school community. *its actually a very good academic one though* I was wondering if we had a rep in the "hood" as well 
I stand corrected, you are as vapid as they say.
theatrebabe
Broadway Legend Joined: 8/22/05
#1149Sunday in the Park
Posted: 8/25/05 at 11:16pmso is Anthony saying,he's not attracted to women,but he still anjoys sex w/ them,that's what i got out of it
"While some feel it is a film related question, I seem to think it may be a 'I am thinking of losing my winkie' sort of question."
-cheezedoodle
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