NO! Don't ignore meeeeeeeeeeeee. I'm going to work on it in like an hour. And I don't want to pluck my eyebrows!! *pouts*
Santa *is* real? And he can see me all the time?
EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!! Santa's a pedophile!
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Yes he can, NTG. If you look out your window...
I'm Jewish. I don't have to worry.
"Ewwwwww Santa's a pedophile!"
*spits out water onto computer screen* Thank you! That made my day!
::puts plywood back up on windows::
I'm atheist...does that get me off the hook too?
Sure.
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It does, NTG, but there's also no presents coming your way.
I'm atheist, too, but the rest of my family is Catholic, so I still have to deal with all the Christmas stuff. I absolutely hate putting up the tree and getting dressed up for pictures and stuff...
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We talked about this on the Angst thread a while back- do you still recieve gifts, even though you don't believe in the holiday?
som--yeah, we do. Just without the religious part.
And yes...I'm an atheist singing O Holy Night in church on Christmas Eve...work that one out...
Yep! I do, because my parents don't want to spoil the holiday for my little brother and sister, so if Santa doesn't come to me, then they'd figure out that "santa" isn't real, which my parents don't want yet. So yeah, I still get them.
*shrugs* Fine with me. The only thing I ever want for Christmas is show tickets anyway, so "santa" leaves an envelope with tickets for me instead of presents.
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Hm. It's not really my place to judge you or anyone, but I will say that I see a lot of kids who jump the family's religious ship just to be 'rebellious' or because they find church boring, yet they still accept any and all benefits like presents. That may or may not be you two, I can't say. Do your parents know you're atheists?
My parents know, and they can't stand the idea of it. My mom and I actually had a big fight a few weeks ago when I brought it up again. She hates the idea that I don't believe in any god. I've thought about it for a long time, and I just don't believe in him/her/it. And 9 years of Catholic school and all the teachings how God says this is evil and that is evil and he's going to destroy the world one day has really gotten to me. I finally accepted the fact that I don't believe in him or any other god a few months ago.
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That's interesting. I hear that from a lot of Catholics, oddly... I was lucky enough to be raised in a very liberal protestant church where the pastor was really friendly and not condescending. Nothing was ever force-fed to me, so I grew to believe it myself and I wanted to be confirmed. Anyway, to each her own. I just hope you're not like some of my hypocritcal friends who follow whatever suits them (based on who they're with) at the time.
It sounds like you've had a really good religious experience! That's great! And people who change their beliefs based on who they're with drives me insane!
And what really pisses me off about the Church is that supposedly everything is "Evil" though it is never mentioned in the bible. *looks at the great sermon thread* See- that's exactly what I'm talking about!
*watches*
You girls are so f*cking brilliant. It's amazing.
Meh. Excuse my vulgarity... I'm in a weird mood. But seriously, you guys are amazing.
Yep. My parents know, and they're fine with it. They were raised Catholic and both thought that it didn't make any sense. We're Unitarian Universalist now, which is this really cool religion where you don't have to have any beliefs regarding God, but you do have to follow certain moral principles.
As far as Christmas...I was asked to sing O Holy Night because we do it each year along with song from a variety of different religions. My choir director just thought I had the best voice for it.
And as far as presents, my family thinks of it as a celebration of a successful year.
Also, Unitarians believe in Jesus as a great teacher and peace giver, so it really is a celebration--just not in as literal a sense as it is in other religions.
And you're amazing, too, Emcee!
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Emcee, you mean me? Thanks.
NTG, that sounds cool, as long as you stick to it and aren't one of aforemetioned hypocrites (not that I think you are, just saying that I know people who go back on beliefs like that).
Diva, yes, I've been lucky and I'm very greatful. Religious upbringing is one area in which I have few or no arguments against my parents.
As far as presents- if you and your family are all clear on what you believe and they still give them to you as a celebration of family, that's good. I just don't like people who say they're atheist but pretend otherwise so they can get gifts on holidays.
Oh, well thanks. *blushes*
I guess I can semi-contribute. I grew up in a relatively small, really tight-knit Jewish community, kind of integrated into a mostly non-Jewish town. That community has been an ENORMOUS part of my life for as long as I can remember, and my rabbi remains of the most important people in my life. I've been lucky to have had some of the most incredible learning experiences I've ever had within that community. My temple at home was in the more liberal sect of the reform movement, with a lot of traditional customs still involved in practice, so it was a pretty unique environment. Because of that, my experience has been a lot less about faith in a higher power, per se, but more in what people can do themselves; it's a really interesting take, I thought. I guess I'm still not too sure where I stand in terms of the concept of God, but I'm in a pretty comfortable place, I think.
Well, that made zero sense. Someone just put a pillow over my head and tell me to go away, please?
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I think I get the gist of what you're saying. It's about community and not quite so much Torah-thumping?
Right! I mean, that's all about the experience, too. Like, being there reading something that has so much history, and doing it with people you love. There's something really beautiful about that, even if you're not 100% solidified in your beliefs.
Random: I just collaged my screenplay binder with Rent pics.
Please tell me to stop procrastinating and write my next chapter...the timing's gonna get all smushed again if I don't get it done soon...
Procrastinating is my life. BUT STOP!
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