The True Hillary

[Gothampc]

Posted: 2/28/08 at 5:23pm

No doubt who is behind Hillary.
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[TheatreDiva90016]

Posted: 2/28/08 at 5:26pm

Now you are just grasping at things.

[lildogs]

Posted: 2/28/08 at 5:27pm

I think that's a joke Diva.

[TheatreDiva90016]

Posted: 2/28/08 at 5:29pm

I know.

I'm just getting tired of the "How Many Ways Can We Make Hillary Look Bad With Something That Is Not Her Fault" game.

[lildogs]

Posted: 2/28/08 at 5:32pm

What other ways has she appeared "bad" through no fault of her own?

[EVIE]

Posted: 2/28/08 at 5:35pm

Can that qualify as a "headline" for Jay Leno? Heee heeee!

[TheatreDiva90016]

Posted: 2/28/08 at 5:38pm

Please Lil,

We can start with saying that she 'cried'...

[JohnBoy2]

Posted: 2/28/08 at 7:13pm

With Satan behind her and Big Foot her running mate, there's no way she can lose!

[artscallion]

Posted: 2/28/08 at 7:29pm

Keep the Hillarity comin'!

[Liverpool]

Posted: 2/28/08 at 7:38pm

well diva, she did cry, several times. How is she supposed to lead us into the future in a world full of such turmoil when she can't handle a primary election run. Had any other candidate broke down like that they would have been laughed out of the race.

[wonderfulwizard11]

Posted: 2/28/08 at 7:43pm

Because clearly crying (and she wasn't even crying!) means you're so weak and obviously can't handle being president.

Give me a break.

Posted: 2/28/08 at 8:16pm

Just let it out- what exactly did she do that's so horrible that you put her in league with Satan?

[TheatreDiva90016]

Posted: 2/28/08 at 9:41pm

Is it impossible to actually write, "She got choked up?"

Because she NEVER cried, and every time you write that, I kill one more Obama voter.

[mc1227]

Posted: 2/28/08 at 10:23pm

This is an electorate that voted GWB in, not once, but TWICE!!!! It's evident that Obama, while a very nice guy, is no where near as qualified to hold that office. He is a first termer who, with all the information available at a vulnerable time in our country's history, voted not to go to war. I really want to hear someone question his judgement. His inexperience scares me and when all the rah-rah excitement is over, where will we be? Not only that, but the Republicans will eat him for lunch. They are licking their chops because they know they have already thrown everything but the kitchen sink at Hillary and she is still standing after all these years.

How upsetting in this country that the most qualified candidate (who happens to be a woman) will lose out to an unqualifed African-American who happens to be a man. Talk about more of the same!!

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 2/28/08 at 10:26pm

Obama is a rock star.

Ask many people who support him about his views & it is doubtful many could tell you what his positions are or care for that matter.

[artscallion]

Posted: 2/28/08 at 10:42pm

"He is a first termer who, with all the information available at a vulnerable time in our country's history, voted not to go to war."

If you think this is correct, you are not well informed enough to make the judgments you are making. The vote to go to war happened before Obama was a senator. He wasn't able to participate in that vote, though he does say that he would have voted not to go to war. Clinton, BTW says she wishes she could take back her vote.

With all the information available at that "vulnerable time" it was clear to me, and many many others, that we should not vote to go to war. It has always puzzled me that those who voted to go to war were so blind to the administrations obvious deceptions. I mean did you watch Colin Powell's address to the UN? I find it enormously reassuring to know that we will have someone as clear headed as Obama in the White House.

Roxy, you're just repeating rhetoric. And cheap rhetoric at that. It has no basis in truth. You could say the same thing about Hilary or any other cantidate with no difference in results. If you think it's so true, please tell us what you base that opinion on.

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 2/28/08 at 10:47pm

It ain't over til it's ooooooover"

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/map/polling/

[artscallion]

Posted: 2/28/08 at 10:55pm

What's that you're clinging to, Jerby? Could it be HOPE?!?

Hehe. Meet ya back here on Wednesday and you can sing, if ya know what I mean.

[jrb_actor]

Posted: 2/28/08 at 11:18pm

Oh there will be singing!

It may be the blues--but for whom?

[JudasIscariot]

Posted: 2/29/08 at 12:24am

SHE CRIED.
SHE CRIED.
SHE CRIED.
SHE CRIED.
SHE CRIED.
SHE CRIED.
SHE CRIED.

Let the killing commence, Diva.

[grnsmwhr]

Posted: 2/29/08 at 1:01am

"It has always puzzled me that those who voted to go to war were so blind to the administrations obvious deceptions."
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To be fair, anyone who spoke out against going to Iraq was labeled as unpatriotic and was burned in effigy. Look at what happened to the Dixie Chicks. Even some of the most outspoken anti-war celebrities shut-up and were scared to speak out. It was an ugly, ugly time and a lot of people forget that. Obama can talk all he wants about what he would have done and how brave he would have been, so easy to say now that the tide has turned.

Personally, I find Obama a much more likeable person than Hillary but it matters little whether a candidate is likeable or not. It's more important to have someone that is capable, tough and experienced and Hillary is far more so than Obama.

Updated On: 2/29/08 at 01:01 AM

[Roninjoey]

Posted: 2/29/08 at 3:05am

Really, she actually did cry... right before Super Tuesday

[Gothampc]

Posted: 2/29/08 at 8:44am

"To be fair, anyone who spoke out against going to Iraq was labeled as unpatriotic and was burned in effigy. Look at what happened to the Dixie Chicks. Even some of the most outspoken anti-war celebrities shut-up and were scared to speak out. It was an ugly, ugly time and a lot of people forget that."

Don't be so dramatic. That's not the way it was at all. Michael Moore and his bunch were very outspoken. The truth is that the outspoken people couldn't handle it when the opposite viewpoint was presented. And the problem with the Dixie Chicks was that they were badmouthing the US in a foreign country.

[mc1227]

Posted: 2/29/08 at 8:47am

Being choked up is not the same as crying. Besides, why is crying or not crying a barometer for leadership? We need to get away from this macho bs and start looking at leadership. Many presidents have admitted to crying on occasion. Maybe it shows they have a heart.

[artscallion]

Posted: 2/29/08 at 9:06am

"To be fair, anyone who spoke out against going to Iraq was labeled as unpatriotic and was burned in effigy. Look at what happened to the Dixie Chicks. Even some of the most outspoken anti-war celebrities shut-up and were scared to speak out. It was an ugly, ugly time and a lot of people forget that."

Who forgets that it was an ugly time? Not me.

And the Dixie Chicks didn't back down despite what happened to them. I didn't back down, neither did any of the millions of people around the country who marched and protested despite being derided and called unpatriotic. Obama didn't back down. And he was in a position where speaking out as he did would have hurt him just as much as it would anyone in the senate. The only ones who backed down were the business-as-usual, ruled-by-fear politicians who are the precise people we needed to stand up.

What the country wants now are politicians who are willing to stand up for what's right regardless of, and in the face of, the fear of "being labeled as unpatriotic and burned in effigy."



"Obama can talk all he wants about what he would have done and how brave he would have been, so easy to say now that the tide has turned."

Except that it's not just now that he's speaking out. Obama is one of the few politicians brave enough to have spoken out back then. And just because he wasn't in the Senate at the time doesn't mean he had nothing to lose by doing so. Didn't you just use the horrors of the Dixie Chick episode to illustrate how difficult it was to stand up back then? You can't use that to excuse Hillary and then conveniently forget it when it comes to Obama.

Updated On: 2/29/08 at 09:06 AM