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#26

Who's watching Pan Am?

I finally caught up on the first two episodes last night and I really like it.

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#27

Who's watching Pan Am?

I liked it a lot. So happy I have On Demand with my cable service as I was able to catch up with this and Revenge (which I also liked). Couldn't get through the first episode of Playboy Club.
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#28

Who's watching Pan Am?

There's something about PLAYBOY CLUB that has me hooked. I honest to God can't tell if it's a really bad show that's just addictive or if it's actually a decent show that's starting to get pretty interesting. All I know is that I get to see Laura Benanti every week in a really delicious role AND they let her sing. I can't ask for more than that.

And I'm still loving PAN AM. I'm glad Ricci didn't stab the guy in the neck with the fork and then have to cover up a murder ala PLAYBOY CLUB. I really thought that was what was going to happen during that scene!
#29

Who's watching Pan Am?

I enjoyed the second episode very much. I like the actress playing Kate A LOT.

But was no one else driven completely crazy by the fact that they used ON A CLEAR DAY in the opening when that song wouldn't have been written for two years...and the Sinatra recording wasn't released until a year after that???
#30

Who's watching Pan Am?

I missed Sunday's episode because of the Phillies game and it wasn't listed on our On Demand as of last night. I'll check again tonight.
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#31

Who's watching Pan Am?

I like the show- it has real potential. And a random theater connection: Kyle Harris- Tony in the West Side Story tour- said he's shooting a role on the show. Hope it gets a full season order!
#32

Who's watching Pan Am?

Colin Donnell guests on tonight's episode and it's his birthday!
"All our dreams can come true -- if we have the courage to pursue them." -- Walt Disney We must have different Gods. My God said "do to others what you would have them do to you". Your God seems to have said "My Way or the Highway".
#33

Who's watching Pan Am?

The show fell in the ratings again scoring a 1.9 demo and just over 6 million viewers. At this rate it looks as if yet another great show will be done after its first 13 episodes
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#34

Who's watching Pan Am?

Aside from DWTS and their Wednesday block, ABC is NBC-lite with the ratings. I can see this surviving a whole season and even beyond that.
#35

Who's watching Pan Am?

Gave up on it after episode 2. Plodding, tedious, boring and convoluted. Not even good "guilty pleasure" viewing.
#36

Who's watching Pan Am?

Who's watching Pan Am?

Loved Colin Donnell on last night's episode - it was a pretty large part. Love seeing talented Broadway people getting some national exposure. I doubt his character will come back but I hope he will :)


"All our dreams can come true -- if we have the courage to pursue them." -- Walt Disney We must have different Gods. My God said "do to others what you would have them do to you". Your God seems to have said "My Way or the Highway".
#37

Who's watching Pan Am?

I like the show a lot. There are things that bug me here or there, but overall it doesn't take away from the fun of it.

I was wondering how the heck they're going to get Christina Ricci's character back to the U.S. in time to travel to South America. I was also wondering if flight crews flew together like that, I always thought the groupings changed from flight to flight (I know, I know, that wouldn't make interesting television)
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#38

Who's watching Pan Am?

Sunday nights episode was brilliant.

I think it's a shame some think the plotting is a slow etc, i think it's a really well drawn charchter piece, it's a shame so many viewers dont want that. As someone put on TVbythenumbers 'it's to slow, it's a shame ABC won't make shows like Criminal Minds, NCIS etc', i just find that worrying. How many police dramas can one country need?
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#39

Who's watching Pan Am?

I've been falling in love with show. It does get a bit silly and kitschy from time to time, but the direction and performances really keep it in check. There is something about the show's tone that appeals to me. I love the international locales and references and I love even more when I recognize some of the mistakes.
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#40

Who's watching Pan Am?

I really like this show and hope ABC sticks with it. Love the look and style of it as well.
Hey Dottie! Did your colleagues enjoy the cake even though your cat decided to sit on it? ~GuyfromGermany
#41

Who's watching Pan Am?

I think the show is wonderful with the way it is exploring characters, opening up thrilling and epic backstory and showing us complicated female characters with passion. Yes, its contrived and overarching at times, but I really enjoy it.

I was so invested in Ricci having her moment with Kennedy and when she paused at Air Force One and started crying, I totally bought it. I was right there with her.

Its too bad American TV viewers have become so damn lazy that they can't even follow episodic TV for a season. Reality shows have killed the attention span.

People would rather watch Nancy Grace fart on youtube on a loop for an hour than watch a TV show. Pathetic.
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#42

Who's watching Pan Am?

Episode three was a highlight for me. Karine Vanesse's (Colette) performance was stunning and heartbreaking. She's definitely the show's MVP.
#43

Who's watching Pan Am?

Its too bad American TV viewers have become so damn lazy that they can't even follow episodic TV for a season. Reality shows have killed the attention span.

What about the phenomenons of Desperate Housewives, Ugly Betty, 24 and Lost? Even Glee, senseless as it is, is episodic. I think this show will find some traction, but the high emotional content is going to place it more in the female demographic. The espionage has taken a back seat to relationships and feelings. And it doesn't have the biting cynicism of Mad Men. I think the show will do well, but I doubt it will be a huge hit.
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
#44

Who's watching Pan Am?

"What about the phenomenons of Desperate Housewives, Ugly Betty, 24 and Lost? Even Glee, senseless as it is, is episodic."

All the shows (minus Glee) started years ago when America was embracing week to week shows, and to be honest even some of those began to fade with audiences quick.Glee may be at season 3 but is falling faster than a hookers pants.

It's no shock that the show doing well this year are half hour sitcoms, people in the states dont want to invest in having to follow something week to week, they would rather shut off their brains laugh for half hour and move on. Sadly this is putting shows like Pan Am, Ringer and Revenge in the danger zone (and i suspect many others will follow when they launch mid season)

Look at The Good Wife, an incredible show that the Awards peeps like but nobody watches, look at the last 2 years atempts at week to week dramas etc (Flash Forward, The Event, V, Eastwick etc) all canned. Look at Fringe, a brilliant shows dying a death.

Viewers who enjoy drama and week to week storylines have fled to cable where shows like True Blood, Sons of Anarchy etc are doing really well. To me that's where the real talent is.

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#45

Who's watching Pan Am?

I do wonder sometimes if U.S. network tv tries to do too much by having such long seasons. Cable series are what, 6-12 episodes per season? UK series are 6-10 episodes as well, and some of those shows are tight. Just finished watching The Hour and I can only imagine US tv trying to spread it out to a full 20+ episode mess.
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#46

Who's watching Pan Am?

Viewers who enjoy drama and week to week storylines have fled to cable where shows like True Blood, Sons of Anarchy etc are doing really well.

Except for CW, which cemented itself as THE network for hour-long serials. Ironically aimed at a younger market who are supposed to be the ones with the short attention spans.

One of the biggest problems with Pan Am is its time slot. Sundays at 10 PM EST against Sunday Night Football and currently, the most popular franchise on TV, CSI: Miami. If Pan Am is being touted as one of the biggest premieres ABC has to offer, why is Charlie's (stupid) Angels given a better time slot? I love Fringe, but Friday nights at 9PM EST against CSI: NY and Modern Family?

Do ratings capture shows that have been recorded on DVR? With the meteoric rise of DVRs, OnDemand and Hulu-type streaming, networks really need to think outside the box if they want to stay ahead of the ratings game. But I don't think the drop in hour-long serial viewership has more to do with audiences than it does with the networks, irregular programming, and the quality of shows being offered. Glee has been falling fast because it only gets worse. Same thing happened to Brothers and Sisters. NBC had zero faith in Friday Night Lights and nobody knew whether it was on or off or only OnDemand.

Other shows like V, Flash Forward, Eastwick and The Event simply weren't very good or were too derivative. Flash Forward and The Event started with a decent hook, but failed to live up to pilot. V and The Event were too similar and tried to revive the 80s interest in alien occupation made popular by the original V and Alien Nation, but had little new to add to the subject (The 4400 actually did a better job on a similar theme). Eastwick was a mess that went nowhere.
"What can you expect from a bunch of seitan worshippers?" - Reginald Tresilian
#48

Who's watching Pan Am?

'Except for CW, which cemented itself as THE network for hour-long serials. Ironically aimed at a younger market who are supposed to be the ones with the short attention spans.'

The CW does the hour long shows aimed at the younger audiences but nobody watches the CW, it's ratings are a mess and normally beat by something on cable with only the Vampire Diaries and new show Secret Circle really doing Ok.

'One of the biggest problems with Pan Am is its time slot. Sundays at 10 PM EST against Sunday Night Football and currently, the most popular franchise on TV, CSI: Miami. If Pan Am is being touted as one of the biggest premieres ABC has to offer, why is Charlie's (stupid) Angels given a better time slot? I love Fringe, but Friday nights at 9PM EST against CSI: NY and Modern Family?

I agree it's timeslot is not the best, if it would have been a few years ago when Houswives was doing better it could have worked with Housewives as a good lead out. When Charlie's Angels was axed weeks ago they should have taken it off the air and put Pan Am in it's slot, i dont know why they didnt.
Fringe does not go up against Modern Family.

#Do ratings capture shows that have been recorded on DVR? With the meteoric rise of DVRs, OnDemand and Hulu-type streaming, networks really need to think outside the box if they want to stay ahead of the ratings game. But I don't think the drop in hour-long serial viewership has more to do with audiences than it does with the networks, irregular programming, and the quality of shows being offered. Glee has been falling fast because it only gets worse. Same thing happened to Brothers and Sisters. NBC had zero faith in Friday Night Lights and nobody knew whether it was on or off or only OnDemand.'

DVR watched in the same night counts but not after that. Also advertisers are what keep shows going so if people watch on DVR and just skip through the adverts then the advertisers wont pay for space meaning the show will be axed. It's not how many viewers a show gets that keeps it going it's what the all important demo figure is. It could get 10 million viewers but if it has a demo of say 1.3 it will be axed.
Of course some dramas have lost some quality but many many are wonderful yet audiences cant be bothered to watch a week to week drama anymore, as i say that's why this year the sitcoms have done so well.

'Other shows like V, Flash Forward, Eastwick and The Event simply weren't very good or were too derivative. Flash Forward and The Event started with a decent hook, but failed to live up to pilot. V and The Event were too similar and tried to revive the 80s interest in alien occupation made popular by the original V and Alien Nation, but had little new to add to the subject (The 4400 actually did a better job on a similar theme). Eastwick was a mess that went nowhere'

I agree Flash Forward fell apart as did The Event, however i think V was fantastic (the only thing it had in common with The Event was it was about Aliens) and i also think after Eastwick found it's footing around episode 4 it became a very very strong show, more enjoyable than most shows that started that season (I always though Eastwick and Housewives should have been paired up on Sunday nights)

As for the fate of Pan Am it's over, it was not on the mid season schedule a few weeks ago so everyone knew it was finished. Ordering an extra episode is going to allow it to do a wrap up. ABC are still claiming it's not axed but everyone knows it is, ABC wont confirm it because they still want the viewers to watch the next 5 episodes. Another great show down the pan.







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#49

Who's watching Pan Am?

I really thought more people were watching it, but I guess I was just giving it more credit because it outlasted The Playboy Club. I watched it (Pan An, that is) each week and more or less enjoyed it, but I did find it instantly forgettable. It looked good and the actors were fine for the most part, but the stories were pretty cookie cutter.
#50

Who's watching Pan Am?

Only one of the five additional scripts ordered for Pan Am will be produced by ABC. This means the drama's first season will total 14 episodes.

ABC will air the series' six remaining original episodes beginning this Sunday.
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