Who you like 2020 Dems — Page 9

I believe 90+ percent of the people in here want the Democrat, If we have to nominate a moderate, so be it. Go Joe, but my heart says a bunch of them will beat him.

artscallion said: "@ModernMillie3 Lots of folks thought it was a fact that a black man could never be President. Even more people thought that it was a fact that a dumpster fire like Trump could never win. You may be right that Pete won't win. But I wouldn't be surprised if you were wrong. Facts ain't facts until they happen."

Absolutely, Barack Obama was such a lovely surprise, even when he was in Illinois and wasn't interested in the job. He won for many reasons, and we had eight incredible years with him. And I agree, no one thought Trump would win, which is why we fell asleep at the wheel in November 2016 and didn't bother voting. The swing states, which were so damn important, had such a low voter turn out. In my opinion, it's because both were very unlikeable (I love Hillary deeply but she is cold), but what I didn't think of was the incredible turnout by racist, sexist, and radical Republicans. Hate crimes went up overnight when he was elected. We failed and it gave us years of anxiety, terror, anger, and completely divided country.

I think everyone has been deeply affected negatively by this monster, and we want him OUT. That is the only objective for next year. I know that is a low bar, but we need the person who can beat this jerk off. We need a candidate who excites voters enough to go out and vote, especially young people and POC. It's sad that it's come to that, but that is what we need. I am thinking of the good of the party. I like Pete a lot, he is calm, incredibly intelligent, and has some excellent plans. But, I think he's too green and I don't want this to be true, of course, but a lot of people simply won't vote for a gay man to be POTUS.

I guess it's Joe, for now, which is fine. I have no idea who Obama will endorse, but it will go a long way with black folks. I just want Trump out, like everyone here I believe, and we need a moderate candidate with name recognition to do so.

Updated On: 12/18/19 at 05:53 PM

As was evident by last night's debate, if Joe Biden just stays the course, the Democratic Presidential nod will be his. Slow and steady.

Amy caught your credit card and that's good, she'd beat him like a drum.

Tonight is the final Democratic Debate before the Iowa Caucuses on February 3. The lineup on stage, left to right, is (I think): Steyer, Warren, Biden, Sanders, Buttigieg, Klobuchar.

What can we expect from a Biden presidency in terms of drone murders, imprisonment for life without trial, NSA spying on Americans, persecuting whistleblowers, and other various evil deeds in the name of national security? The Obama administration was absolutely awful on these things; has Biden given any assurances that he’d put a stop to them?

Voting Blue for sure.

I’m Team Amy right now. Our primary is next month. I don’t think odds are in her favor to win the nomination, but I like her experience, her saneness, her platform, and her history of getting things done. She doesn’t say kooky things like saying she’ll have a high school student vet her secretary of education nominee. She wouldn’t get excited if a notorious transphobic/homophobic/sexist “celebrity” sorta endorses her. She doesn’t say vaguely (or not so vague) racist things you’d expect you’re grandpa to say at Thanksgiving. She doesn’t talk about freedom dividends and she doesn’t think she can buy the election with a billon dollars. She’s not so in love with her ideas if elected that she’d refuse to find compromise as if compromise means you failed some type of purity test. All true progress probably involves some initial compromise. She remembers there’s more to the country than the places where far left talk tests well.

For all these reasons, I’m Team Amy.

But of course, in November, I’ll vote for whoever the eventual Democratic nominee is.

Updated On: 2/3/20 at 06:11 PM

"I really like Klobuchar too, and hope that a Biden-Klobuchar ticket materializes. That ticket would strike fear in the heart of the Party of Trump (POT)."

While that makes perfect sense if you want to win general election, it would not make the more liberal base very happy. The Iowa caucus is a mess and is not a good look for the Democratic party. Can anybody with a straight face say they will respect the results when they come in.

yankeefan7 said: ""yankeefan7 said: "Can anybody with a straight face say they will respect the results when they come in."
YES"

Wow. Honestly, you don't think any candidate that does not do well is going to point to this joke of a caucus."



You asked a question. I responded.

I trust my Democratic Party to permanently right a temporary wrong. We're not the GOP, after all.

Whose positions I agree with most: Bernie and Elizabeth

Whom I want to the nomination: Whoever's most electable

Who is most electable: Like most Americans, I have no clue, but unlike most, I admit that I don't know and that that's what hopefully the primary campaign will help answer