Who you like 2020 Dems — Page 7

If Biden has to go up against Trump in the Tv debates the Dems are toast.

He can't even debate against his own side let alone with a psychopath x

I honestly think what we’re seeing is the two-party system stretched beyond its limit these last two election cycles. We sort of saw the beginnings of it when the Republicans split between the “old guard” GOP and the Tea Party contingency. But, inexplicably, the Republicans were able to subsume the Tea Party (by moving further right), and emerge whole again. I thought we would see a more devastating divide on the right with regards to Trump, but he seems somehow to have marshaled the right around him in unity instead of creating a schism. No such thing seems liable to happen on the Democratic side, however. Either the Democrats somehow subsume the Bernie Sanders contingency like the Republicans did the Tea Party, or we will grow more fractured on the left.

Ideally, I’d like to see the U.S. system evolve past the two-party model to something that includes pluralities, like the German system, or even Britain. But that could take years. In the short term, my opinion is that the Democrats probably need to steer left and win back the young people. Or the young people will go their own way and the Democrats will be left essentially deserted of a voting block that is becoming more and more crucial.

Updated On: 11/22/19 at 10:36 PM

Sorry but still doomed-

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/11/new-poll-suggests-democrats-impeachment-push-could-alienate-key-voters

I'm a huge fan of Buttigieg and am thrilled to hear he's way out in front in Iowa and is somewhere around second place in the latest NATIONAL democratic polls! How is that even possible given the vast experience of his competitors? He certainly reminds me of the white version of Obama's rise back in 2007.

So the 64 thousand dollar question is: if Buttigieg somehow made it to the top of the ticket by the time of the Democratic Convention, would he guarantee Trump a second term? I would so love to see Pete cut the Donald down to size in the debates, but would a great performance by Pete sway enough voters back to the democratic column in the general to put him over the top?

sabrelady said: "Hmmm. Does you like dis message any better?”

Is this an attempt to mimic the way you think other ethnic groups talk? (I have no idea how you identify) If so, not cool.

SmoothLover wrote: "The candidates in general should have stayed away from health care and especially Medicare for all..."

Say it again, Sam! It's the mother of all third rail issues. I'm sticking with the only Dem I find electable in this cycle, Biden. But, Amy Klobuchar and Mayor Pete really stand out for all the right reasons, with honorable mention going to Andrew Yang. I would love to see the Dems regain the Senate and elevate Elizabeth Warren to Senate Majority Leader. She needed to tack left of the pack in order to pick off Bernie supporters, but the move obliterated her electoral college prospects. I'd like to see Mayor Pete add IN governor to his resume. IMHO he's the future of his party. But, this one is on Biden's racket. He simply needs to sew up the nomination and pick up a running mate who can solidify his grip on 270.

#DoneWithDistortion

Bra chill! Ya wanna watch Fox News for the NON-Liberal POV Be MY Guest! I love that you "love" that I intake a variety of media (yes Ah do read magazines ! I even BUY them too!)

As far as the BBC being unbiased. No issues bra but so is the CBC - in fact we are famous for our news coverage. ( not so much with drama and comedy)

IF u are referring to a quote I posted re Harvey Weinstein ( we need the eggs Doc) it was that a quote on a very well written argument on how creatures like Weinstein and Epstein et al have continued to survive and flourish.

I don't envy the Dems one bit. While I support Biden, there is a widening enthusiasm gap where he's concerned. He's lost his rock star status in an era that is all about optics, personal charm, checking the right boxes, social media influence, and debate performance. On the other hand, we have the incumbents like Trump, Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham and their heir apparents Joni Ernst, Ted Cruz, Gym Jordan, and Kevin McCarthy, as well as the first woman likely to become US potus, Nikki Haley.

Tread very carefully, Dems. Trump has been a useful idiot for both Putin and Mitch McConnell. McConnell's hands have been all over Trump's appointment of ultraconservative federal trial & appellant court judges, as well as 2 associate supreme court justices who will be in place for a generation or two. And if Nikki Haley and Joni Ernst can somehow survive Trump's seemingly likely second term in office without getting too much crap all over them, one will become the GOP lodestar in 2024.

Biden needs to get elected, sworn in, serve a term, and pass the baton 4 years out. His first term should provide cover for some Dem somewhere to merge the Bill Clinton/Barack Obama/Pete Buttigieg/Elizabeth Warren coalitions in time for the 2024 election cycle. I really don't don't want to witness 20 candidates on a debate stage again.

Updated On: 11/30/19 at 09:48 PM

sabrelady said: "first woman likely to become US potus, Nikki Haley.

Umake a good point. She ticks so many Repub points (sadly including women's reproductive rights) it's a bit scary. I just don't know if it's something she wants. I suspect she may become CEO at Boeing given the crap job the present one is doing and she may not want to leave a highly lucrative and status position for the tsuris that is POTUS."

Oh she wants it. I don't think she'll ever get it but she appears to clearly want it. She is, as she hawks her book, doing whatever she can to stay in/return to Trump's good graces and position herself as his running mate if he decides to jettison Pence. And what is the best way to do that? By echoing his talking points in her book and in interviews that he will at some point likely see. Nothing gets him more excited than that. She's smart though cause it's an art to be a political opportunist but not make it obvious that that's what you're doing. Rumors like this don't start by themselves. That Trump denies that he would consider it means it's already in his thought process and Trump denying something means that there is a better than 50% chance it will happen based on the history of everything else he's denied that subsequently happened. Where there's smoke....

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/22/trump-pence-nikki-haley-2020-ticket-072874

Updated On: 11/30/19 at 04:26 PM

Who da fudge under the age of 80 still uses the word "malarkey"??? I can't bring myself to suggest that either Biden or his handlers are tone deaf, but damn. I mean "no bunkum" would have been a better slogan...NOT.

I'm under the age of 80 (although I don't know why that matters). "Malarkey" is a perfectly wonderfully descriptive word that I use frequently, as does Biden. He's bringing a bit of fun to his campaign, and I like that. Joe Biden is going to be a great President.......... no malarkey!!

javero said: "Who da fudge under the age of 80 still uses the word "malarkey"??? I can't bring myself to suggest that either Biden or his handlers are tone deaf, but damn. I mean "no bunkum" would have been a better slogan...NOT."

i have been using "jibber jabber" but retain a fondness for "gobbledygook ."



and HARDly "bogged down"- just an amused commentary.