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hilly clinton cannot win and only continues because she secretly hates the democratic party
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#50re: hilly clinton cannot win and only continues because she secretly hates
Posted: 3/5/08 at 2:20pmIsn't it funny no one was complaining about the Super Delegates during the last twenty-some years they existed?
#51re: hilly clinton cannot win and only continues because she secretly hates
Posted: 3/5/08 at 2:22pmI don't think they've ever made as much a difference before. This is the closest race for a nominee in the last 20 years.
....but the world goes 'round
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#52re: hilly clinton cannot win and only continues because she secretly hates
Posted: 3/5/08 at 2:25pmMuch longer than that, Taz. There hasn't been a good nail biter since the 20's.
#53re: hilly clinton cannot win and only continues because she secretly hates
Posted: 3/5/08 at 2:36pm
Having Hillary as a candidate gives hard-core conservatives a reason to go to the polls: to vote against her. All other things equal, Obama just doesn't inspire the same negative response among them.
Not true. Hard-core conservatives do not consider McCain a true conservative, due to his support for McCain-Feingold, McCain-Kennedy and other conservative initiatives.
He has HUGE negatives among conservatives, so much so that many of them would rather Obama or Clinton rather than McCain.
#54re: hilly clinton cannot win and only continues because she secretly hates
Posted: 3/5/08 at 2:41pm
...many of them would rather obama or clinton rather than mccain.
in march, maybe. in november, not so much.
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pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
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#55re: hilly clinton cannot win and only continues because she secretly hates
Posted: 3/5/08 at 2:41pmPJ - I have to completely disagree with you. I know of no conservatives (and I am related to a few) who would ever vote for Clinton or Obama. Granted, the conservatives I know would not be extreme Christian conservatives. I would have to agree that some may be more inclined to come out and vote AGAINST Clinton than Obama. Any Dems who think the animosity toward her is fictitious is only fooling themselves.
"It does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket, nor breaks my leg."
-- Thomas Jefferson
#56re: hilly clinton cannot win and only continues because she secretly hates
Posted: 3/5/08 at 2:44pm
how is she going to look in a debate against McCain on national security? I can easily envision a scenario where McCain, now having safely secured the nomination and a fiscally conservative economically minded VP candidate, gets his own red phone propaganda started...
I think she would win a national security debate easily.
And McCain is a crazy man with anger-management issues. I wouldn't want him to answer the red phone. I wouldn't even want him to answer my cell phone.
#57re: hilly clinton cannot win and only continues because she secretly hates
Posted: 3/5/08 at 2:47pm
"How is she gonna look in a debate with McCain?"
Johnny Mac will obliterate Obama in any debate, as it is he still gets ruffled when his back is against the wall.
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#58re: hilly clinton cannot win and only continues because she secretly hates
Posted: 3/5/08 at 2:47pm
I'm not "Christian conservatives"--they won't vote for McCain in large numbers anyway because he's not "Christian" enough.
I'm talking old-school GOP small-government, fiscally responsible conservatives. The ones that listen to Rush and Sean Hannity and Mark Levin and Laura Ingraham, none of whom want to support McCain.
#59re: hilly clinton cannot win and only continues because she secretly hates
Posted: 3/5/08 at 2:48pm
Clinton is a far more polarizing force than the other candidates. It is my hypothesis (and only that... just my personal thought) that Obama will fare better against McCain than Clinton for that exact reason.
It is also my opinion that, although the USA may be ready for a female president, I don't think the rest of the world is necessarily ready for us to have one. Especially with our hands in the Middle East the way they are now. Generally speaking, there are many parts of the world that are incredibly sexist, and I'm not sure that a female president will be able to get as much done as a male.
I'm all for girl power, and I'd love to have a woman president. But I don't think now is the right time in light of the current state of world politics.
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#60re: hilly clinton cannot win and only continues because she secretly hates
Posted: 3/5/08 at 2:52pm
It's my hypothesis you're wrong.
Have you any idea how many other countries in the world have had female heads of state?
You're all for girl power but clearly uneducated about woman power.
#61re: hilly clinton cannot win and only continues because she secretly hates
Posted: 3/5/08 at 2:55pm
"I'm talking old-school GOP small-government, fiscally responsible conservatives"
Oh yeah... i'm sure that these people will vote for both Obama and Clinton over McCain... especially since they pledge to roll back the Bush tax cuts on or soon after day one in office, hugely increase the presence of government with "socialist" universal health care programs, and provide mortgage holidays and other bail out measures regarding the so-called mortgage crisis.
Are you really that sure that these quasi-libertarians would vote for Obama or Clinton over McCain? Seriously?
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#62re: hilly clinton cannot win and only continues because she secretly hates
Posted: 3/5/08 at 3:00pm
"although the USA may be ready for a female president, I don't think the rest of the world is necessarily ready for us to have one."
I believe the presidents of Argentina, Chile, Finland, India, Ireland, Liberia and The Philippines, as well as the Prime Ministers of Germany, New Zealand, Mozambique, The Netherlands Antilles, and Ukraine might disagree.
#63re: hilly clinton cannot win and only continues because she secretly hates
Posted: 3/5/08 at 3:01pm
PalJoey - I knew someone would bring that up. Yes, I'm aware that there are people like Angela Merkel in power (I am not "uneducated", as you put it), and I know that other countries have a history of women being at the forefront. But the US is deeper in the Middle East than other countries are at this point. I think gender is a bigger issue for the leader of our country in that area of the world than for certain other countries.
For the record, I'm not anti-Clinton. I just don't think now is the right time.
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#64re: hilly clinton cannot win and only continues because she secretly hates
Posted: 3/5/08 at 3:04pmBoy the shis is flying in all kinds of directions up in here today!
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#65re: hilly clinton cannot win and only continues because she secretly hates
Posted: 3/5/08 at 3:06pm
Taz why do you REFUSE to admit that she pretended to cry and played to the camera? And what about how Mazeppa used to say to Chelsea how "With that walk, that broad would have made a good stripper" but now only says "Is that your mother?"
Do I need to post that Entertainment Weekly link AGAIN?
#66re: hilly clinton cannot win and only continues because she secretly hates
Posted: 3/5/08 at 3:08pmgolda. like a lioness.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#67re: hilly clinton cannot win and only continues because she secretly hates
Posted: 3/5/08 at 3:09pm
First of all Joe, that edit changes the ENTIRE tone of the show.
And secondly, she's a woman. Those wily creatures can cry on cue and you know it.
....but the world goes 'round
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#68re: hilly clinton cannot win and only continues because she secretly hates
Posted: 3/5/08 at 3:11pm
Taz, do I need to post you in the "Most misogynistic movies of the decade" thread?
God, I'm glad I've got internet back!!!
#69re: hilly clinton cannot win and only continues because she secretly hates
Posted: 3/5/08 at 3:19pmYou were away?
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Vita, dulcedo, et spes nostra
Salve, Salve Regina
Ad te clamamus exsules filii Eva
Ad te suspiramus, gementes et flentes
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#70re: hilly clinton cannot win and only continues because she secretly hates
Posted: 3/5/08 at 4:16pm
"yeah, that whole constitution thing doesn't mean anything anymore anyway."
states rights!
#FactsMatter...your feelings not so much.
#71re: hilly clinton cannot win and only continues because she secretly hates
Posted: 3/5/08 at 4:17pmspoken like a true slave owner.
r.i.p. marco, my guardian angel.
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
...global warming can manifest itself as heat, cool, precipitation, storms, drought, wind, or any other phenomenon, much like a shapeshifter. -- jim geraghty
pray to st. jude
i'm a sonic reducer
he was the gimmicky sort
fenchurch=mejusthavingfun=magwildwood=mmousefan=bkcollector=bradmajors=somethingtotalkabout: the fenchurch mpd collective
#72re: hilly clinton cannot win and only continues because she secretly hates
Posted: 3/5/08 at 4:57pmMadbrian- Why must you spew you dumb **** everywhere? I really cannot see a single Republican or many Independents voting for a man that is practically a socialist. You may say well Republicans are voting for him in the primaries. Well, that is awesome and all, but do you think they may be doing this to **** with our primaries and give it to the candidate that they want McCain to run against? If Obama wins he will be crying himself to sleep after all the attacks the Republicans will bring to him. Hillary has been living through there **** for thirty-five years and she is not going to back down at the rate that Obama would.
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#73re: hilly clinton cannot win and only continues because she secretly hates
Posted: 3/5/08 at 5:05pmObama is a Socialist? Damn, and he STILL can't give us national healthcare!
Jilani
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#74re: hilly clinton cannot win and only continues because she secretly hates
Posted: 3/5/08 at 5:14pm
yeah, that whole constitution thing doesn't mean anything anymore anyway.
The Constitution says that the electors are to be appointed "in such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct," so what Maryland is doing is perfectly constitutional - the Maryland legislature is directing (by passing the law) that electors be appointed who will vote for the winner of the national popular vote.
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