why are gay men just like teenage girls???- Page 2

[Jane2]

Posted: 10/28/07 at 6:00pm

Phyllis, I see. I was inferring from it that she still feels alone and different although she's surrounded by the very people with whom she expected the opposite. I guess I should have seen or read the whole play.

I do feel that in many ways, we are all islands within ourselves at times.

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 10/28/07 at 6:05pm

I think that's part of it, too, Jane. And I think that's a frustration that lots of people have when they consider their place within whatever "community" they are a part of. Much like women often expect that they should automatically be able to depend on other women, I think sometimes we think that as gay men, too.

I've just started perusing that Manifest Love site, and it seems like touch on a lot of things I've always wresteled with about my place in the "community." I'm looking forward to reading the book.

[FindingNamo]

Posted: 10/28/07 at 6:14pm

If Nimmons ever comes to your area to do his presentation, it's really worth seeing. Actually, I would have to say seeing it several years ago was one of two things that really changed my life, and my perspective on contemporary gay life.

His presentation is didactic enough to engage my brain and enlightening enough to pack some real surprises. And, as much as he would probably protest otherwise that Manifest Love is a group thing, it really can make subtle shifts in a person individually. I've felt that myself. (Plus, I'm not much of a group person.)

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 10/28/07 at 6:21pm

There doesn't seem to be much going on with it in my city - the last mention of a Chicago group was for January 2004, but I'm going to get the book and go from there. It sounds like a read that could do me some good.

[Chita1933]

Posted: 10/28/07 at 9:36pm

When we say things like "What is her problem?" are we feeding those stereotypes?

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 10/28/07 at 9:40pm

Well, when I hear stuff like that I worry more about the implicit misogyny than I do the stereotype, although I really don't ever say "what is her problem" unless I'm talking about an actual her.

[PalJoey]

Posted: 10/28/07 at 10:11pm

I bought this book two years ago after reading the equally eye-opening "Velvet Rage" by Alan Downs. What Nimmons taught me about my "cynical narratives" and what what Downs taught me about my "craving for validation" altered me.

[Fenchurch]

Posted: 10/28/07 at 10:36pm

I thought that gay men were just like sassy black mamas...

at least that's what Kids in the Hall say.

They both say things like "Girl" and "Sister" and "What's HER problem?"

:)

[Phyllis Rogers Stone]

Posted: 10/29/07 at 9:21am

I agree that The Velvet Rage is another must-read.

[Wanna Be A Foster]

Posted: 10/29/07 at 10:14am

I *just* received The Velvet Rage from Amazon. I ordered it from Kringas' recommendation in another thread. I plan on starting it tonight.

Thanks, Kring/Phyl.

[Borstalboy]

Posted: 10/29/07 at 10:19am

Ohmigawd....you guys are SO mature.