Posted: 6/22/17 at 8:07pm
Regardless of the fact that Sunday in the Park with George wasn't considered for Tonys, how many nominations and awards do you think it would have received? Which categories?
Posted: 6/22/17 at 8:22pm
I would assume just 3: best revival, best actor for Gyllenhaal and best actress for Ashford. The designs or direction certainly weren't necessarily worthy of recognition, because none of it was groundbreaking apart from its two leading performances.
Posted: 6/22/17 at 8:29pm
The lighting could've and most likely would've been nominated, the exquisite design of the chromolume was praised by just about every critic.
Posted: 6/22/17 at 10:18pm
I think Penny Fuller could very well have taken a supporting actress slot over Mary Beth Peil. Ashley Park and Ruthie Ann Miles could've also been contenders.
Posted: 6/22/17 at 10:22pm
I think five:
Revival
Actor - Gyllenhaal
Actress - Ashford
Featured Actress - Fuller, Park or Davie
Lighting (and easily won)
Posted: 6/22/17 at 11:18pm
I thought that Gyllenhaal, Ashford, Fuller, Park, Boykin, Davie, and Miles were all worthy of a nomination. Their work was really exceptional and many of them really made a big impression with very small roles. If there was an award for best ensemble(which there should be) they also would have been nominated (maybe alongside The Great Comet and Come From Away).
Posted: 6/22/17 at 11:27pm
Revival
Actress
Actor
Lighting
Possibly: featured actress for Penny Fuller and costumes (I thought the costumes vivid coloring was very effective against a simple stage design)
Posted: 6/22/17 at 11:47pm
CarlosAlberto said: "Awww...so sweet. Too bad it's not reality.
Ew.
Posted: 6/22/17 at 11:50pm
Considering all the extraordinary supporting women from Great Comet were shut out, I find it very hard to imagine those actresses getting in, especially Park, and even Fuller.
Posted: 6/23/17 at 12:52am
Really all who were most memorable to me in the show were Jake Gyllenhaal and Annaleigh Ashford. Of course the rest of the cast really was great, but as far as standouts i didn't see anything too exceptional, especially with the already very crowded season there was leading up to and after Sunday in the Park. Could maybe see it have been nominated for Orchestrations though, I did think that element was very well done and enjoyable when I saw it.
Posted: 6/23/17 at 12:59am
^The orchestrations weren't new. The were the original.
To be honest the only reason that the comet ladies weren't nominated was probably due to a vote split. I don't think it had anything to do with the competition. It's not like Peil gave a particularly award worthy performance in Anastasia. I think that Fuller may have easily replaced her nomination, as I'm sure that one of the men in Sunday probably would have taken Faist's spot.
Updated On: 6/23/17 at 12:59 AM
Posted: 6/23/17 at 2:07am
I will grant that I was more lukewarm on this revival than most, but I don't think it would have gotten much outside of Revival, the leading actors, and maybe lighting. The supporting cast were all fine in small roles, the design was either a copy of the original (the costumes) or non-existent (the set). I get that a lot of people were passionate about this one, but in such a crowded season I don't think it would have swept even the nominations.
Posted: 6/23/17 at 2:31am
GeorgeandDot said: "I'm sure that one of the men in Sunday probably would have taken Faist's spot."
But again, in that scenario I don't think any of the Sunday men could have taken the slot from Faist with Jon Jon Briones "waiting in the wings" so to speak. And I definitely don't think a vote split caused Briones to lose the slot.
Updated On: 6/23/17 at 02:31 AM
Posted: 6/23/17 at 3:07am
^What are you talking about? Briones was only eligible for lead actor. I think the vote split involved the ladies in The Great Comet in the featured actress category. Re-read my comment. I don't think you read it properly. Faist was in featured actor. Briones was in consideration for lead. They were never in any sort of competition.
What I'm saying is that Faist seemed to be filler since there really wasn't anyone else this season that I could see filling that fifth best featured actor slot, so they gave it to Faist. I think that, that slot may have gone to one of the supporting men in Sunday instead, if they were eligible. Also, I think that last slot in featured actress went to Peil because of a vote split between Amber Gray and Brittain Ashford. People were very divided on who they felt was the standout supporting actress in that show, but I think that with Sunday in consideration, that nomination may have gone to Fuller instead of Peil.
Updated On: 6/23/17 at 03:07 AM
Posted: 6/23/17 at 7:50am
@z5 said: "Could maybe see it have been nominated for Orchestrations though, I did think that element was very well done and enjoyable when I saw it."
My first thought when reading your comment was that the orchestrations probably wouldn't have been eligible, since they're essentially Starobin's originals. However, there was no Tony for orchestrations at that time. Since the orchestrations would have not previously been Tony-eligible, maybe they would have been considered this time around. Does anyone know the answer for sure? Can elements unchanged from an original production be nominated for a Tony if the category in question didn't exist at the time?
Posted: 6/23/17 at 9:16am
The costumes were not a copy of the original production's design. Maybe a few similar colors here and there, but that's also a nod to the colors in the original painting.
Updated On: 6/23/17 at 09:16 AM
Posted: 6/23/17 at 9:29am
Well, to be fair, many of the costumes in Act I will always be the same, since they all have to match the painting. Regardless, I don't think they would have merited an nomination in what was a strong year for costume design. I also think someone like Taylor Trensch would have been nominated had Mike Faist not been. That's not a knock on any of the supporting men in Sunday, but I don't think any of those roles are ones that receive awards attention.
Posted: 6/23/17 at 12:15pm
GeorgeandDot said: "^What are you talking about? Briones was only eligible for lead actor. I think the vote split involved the ladies in The Great Comet in the featured actress category. Re-read my comment. I don't think you read it properly. Faist was in featured actor. Briones was in consideration for lead. They were never in any sort of competition.
What I'm saying is that Faist seemed to be filler since there really wasn't anyone else this season that I could see filling that fifth best featured actor slot, so they gave it to Faist. I think that, that slot may have gone to one of the supporting men in Sunday instead, if they were eligible. Also, I think that last slot in featured actress went to Peil because of a vote split between Amber Gray and Brittain Ashford. People were very divided on who they felt was the standout supporting actress in that show, but I think that with Sunday in consideration, that nomination may have gone to Fuller instead of Peil."
My mistake regarding Briones. The role seems very obviously featured to me, but you're absolutely right about the Tonys eligibility decision. Sorry!
And yes, I understood what you meant the first time. I did read your comment correctly. And I never argued with you about the Great Comet women being left out as a result of a vote split. I think that may very well be the reason. I was just disagreeing with you about the men, because I mistakenly thought that Briones was in featured, and there wouldn't have been an obvious vote-split issue that would cause Briones to lose the slot (IF he were in featured). But yes, considering he was in leading, it seems more possible that someone from Sunday could slip in (though I still sort of doubt it).
Posted: 6/23/17 at 1:34pm
^O ok, I get what your saying. I wish that the Saigon had petitioned for Jon Jon to be featured because I think he would've won. If Trina in Falsettos is a featured role, than the engineer is a featured role, I don't care that he gets the final bow.
Posted: 6/23/17 at 2:21pm
A bit off topic, but a reminder that the Guthrie SITPWG production with Randy Harrison and Erin Mackey. is in previews right now. I hope to get to Minneapolis to see it.
Posted: 6/23/17 at 8:59pm
Musicaldudepeter said: "I would assume just 3: best revival, best actor for Gyllenhaal and best actress for Ashford. The designs or direction certainly weren't necessarily worthy of recognition, because none of it was groundbreaking apart from its two leading performances.
"You're right...My choice as well! 3 TONY Noms for
Leading Actor
Leading Actress
Revival
Updated On: 6/23/17 at 08:59 PM
Posted: 6/24/17 at 5:24am
I'd also add Boykin for Best Featured Actor. I think he really shined in the role of the boatman. His interpretation was unlike anything I've seen before.
