ALW and Tim Rice now have EGOT’s!! Oh yeah and John Legend, too...- Page 2

[broadwaynerdnewbie]

Posted: 9/10/18 at 11:51am

Most award pundits think that the acting Emmy is Darren Criss’es to lose. And EGOT is an EGOT just becsuse you don’t like someone or how they achieved it doesn’t make it any less real or special. Moreover why do people care like?

[ScottyDoesn'tKnow2]

Posted: 9/10/18 at 12:07pm

Yeah, it's a bit easier to get an Emmy thanks to that new Outstanding Musical Performance in Daytime TV category. I'm sure a lot of Tony winners would have LOVED it if they could have been Grammy winners when their cast recordings won the Grammy for Best Cast Recording but were a victim of timing as the Grammys did not start giving Grammys to cast members until much later on. If they had started to give cast members Grammys just a few years earlier, Kristin Chenoweth would be an Oscar away from EGOTing.

Updated On: 9/10/18 at 12:07 PM

[Wayman_Wong]

Posted: 9/10/18 at 12:08pm

''It's important to know that Legend WANTED to get the EGOT status.''

So what? Legend would hardly be the 1st one to WANT an EGOT. Or pick projects that might lead to one. You still need to do it.

And would this TV version of ''Jesus Christ'' have been as successful, in terms of TV ratings and reviews, if Legend weren't aboard? There have been other televised live musicals in recent years, but this is the first one to get this kind of Emmy acclaim.

Updated On: 9/10/18 at 12:08 PM

[everythingtaboo]

Posted: 9/10/18 at 2:04pm

An EGOT is an EGOT, but to me is it is a bit weird in this case. When it's a star on TV, a producing credit is more often a vanity credit written into a star contract. I don't know the backstory of his involvement in the special, so I'm genuinely curious. (His producing Tony, I totally get, however.)

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 9/10/18 at 2:36pm

and their Emmy for plugging said musical on ''Today.''

So, you're saying they didn't perform?  Or they were the only ones eligible that year for the award?  Award categories change over time.  Always have, always will.  The "Yes, they EGOT, but..." argument for certain recipients and not others is sounding more bitter and resentful than legitimate.  It's so much easier now, so surely everyone will EGOT and it will cease to be considered an accomplishment, so why even point out that somebody has achieved it.  Right?  Is that how this is supposed to go now?

[Wayman_Wong]

Posted: 9/10/18 at 3:23pm

Erivo and Platt (and their castmates) sang, but all they did was re-create a song that already perform on Broadway. They did nothing new or original. Zillions of singers and actors have been going on talk shows plugging their albums, concerts and shows. For decades, it's never been deemed ''Emmy-worthy.'' It's just P.R. But now we've got a culture where most everyone needs to get an award. Is there a more self-congratulatory profession than showbiz? Ultimately, I believe it lessens the honor of getting an EGOT; traditionally, EGOT winners usually won for four different projects, which showed some range. They didn't get 3 of their 4 prizes for repurposing the same work they do in the same project.

[John Adams]

Posted: 9/10/18 at 3:34pm

Awarding an Emmy for plugging a musical is pretty ridiculous.

In most cases, those performers aren't even "guests" on the show, i.e., they don't take up a full segment, they aren't interviewed beyond a few cursory questions after the number (most of which involve plugging the dates and theater they're playing). They're just filler with a purpose.

Giving an Emmy for plugging a musical on TV is like handing out an Oscar for a movie trailer. Neither is worthy of award consideration. Neither is a "complete" performance, and neither is completely representative of the product they are hawking.

Updated On: 9/10/18 at 03:34 PM

[ScottyDoesn'tKnow2]

Posted: 9/10/18 at 3:47pm

This is not quite EGOT, but what do you guys think of actors who won a Tony and an Oscar for playing the same role?

https://www.imdb.com/list/ls076918700/

For Helen Mirren's case, it may have been the same character, but it definitely was not REALLY the role as The Audience and The Queen are wholly separate works.

Updated On: 9/10/18 at 03:47 PM

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 9/10/18 at 5:12pm

Oh, fer crap's sake.  The Emmys (no apostrophe) and the Grammys (no apostrophe) have always had a zillion categories.  My husband's niece's husband has an Emmy.  I fooled around with someone who later won an Emmy.  I have multiple friends nominated for Grammys and they're not famous by hardly any definition even in their own circles in the music business.  We ALL probably are 2-3 degrees away from countless Grammy or Emmy nominees/winners and probably have been for many many MANY years.  Let's not pretend that this particular award somehow invalidates an EGOT, because it just doesn't.  Neither does the person who may have earned it in a way that was unexpected.  Kobe Bryant has an Oscar.  

And a performance is a performance.  If the Daytime Emmys (no apostrophe) want to give an award to someone who performed a number live on a talk show, SO WHAT?  Hooray for recognizing Broadway performers who generally receive zero acknowledgment for having to try and recreate a show in circumstances that are entirely different from the show itself and most often simply get told "that's your job" instead of "thanks for finding a way to pull that off so well".

Giving an Emmy for plugging a musical on TV is like handing out an Oscar for a movie trailer.

In terms of performance, it's not like that at all.  

[luvcaroline]

Posted: 9/10/18 at 9:55pm

JP2 said: "Surprising, sure. But I'd argue he deserved every win he has achieved. Congrats to him."

100% agreed. He’s easily my current favorite solo male performer. His last concert this past summer blew me away!  I’m so glad he’s finally getting the recognition he deserves.