African-America Phantom of The Opera?
bwaylvsong
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/28/05
#25re: African-America Phantom of The Opera?
Posted: 7/15/09 at 9:41amI don't understand why it's an issue at all... his skin can be orange and it wouldn't matter!
aaronssongs
Chorus Member Joined: 3/7/08
#26re: African-America Phantom of The Opera?
Posted: 7/15/09 at 9:43am
I will not. This is a free country.
And if you had been privy to our conversation about Debbie Allen, and her sister, Phylicia Rashad, and the production of Cat on a Hot Tin Roof, then you might think otherwise.
She has no credibility.
husk_charmer
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/19/06
#27re: African-America Phantom of The Opera?
Posted: 7/15/09 at 9:44am

^ Then I vote our next Phantom should be Ernie!
Rubber Duckie could be Christine, with Bert as the Phantom.
aaronssongs
Chorus Member Joined: 3/7/08
#28re: African-America Phantom of The Opera?
Posted: 7/15/09 at 9:45am
Well, based on your avatar, that comment is in character.
And I always thought that the theater was liberal and without racial bias. Silly me.
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#29re: African-America Phantom of The Opera?
Posted: 7/15/09 at 9:49am
Well, if you'd see any of the multiple threads about race that she posted her thoughts on, you'd realize just how far off the mark you are.
I mean, really, what's the point of bumping this thread?
#30re: African-America Phantom of The Opera?
Posted: 7/15/09 at 9:52am
Phyllis, your avator is so appropriate.
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#31re: African-America Phantom of The Opera?
Posted: 7/15/09 at 9:57am
Isn't it? I saw it on the Daily Show last night and it just made me laugh and laugh so I had to steal it.
And I always thought that the theater was liberal and without racial bias. Silly me
There is so much silliness in that statement it's not even funny.
#32re: African-America Phantom of The Opera?
Posted: 7/15/09 at 10:04am
I still find it hard to believe (and sad) that BFB is no longer with us.
I vaguely remember seeing Robert Guillame sing "Music of the Night" on television. Wasn't he with the production of POTO when he suffered a stroke?
Jon
Broadway Legend Joined: 2/20/04
#33re: African-America Phantom of The Opera?
Posted: 7/15/09 at 10:16amNo, his stroke was more than a decade later, while he was appearing in the TV series "Sports Night".
Phyllis Rogers Stone
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
#34re: African-America Phantom of The Opera?
Posted: 7/15/09 at 10:17am
I just found out about her death the other day (apparently posts about it get deleted). I still don't understand why anyone bumps a thread to antagonize someone over a comment made half a year before, acting like these comments were made the day before.
As for BFB, she was a truly divine and wise poster, and her presence is greatly missed.
#35re: African-America Phantom of The Opera?
Posted: 7/15/09 at 10:22ambook!Phantom isn't white- he's a Turk, if I remember correctly. Only crawford!Phantom establishes him as white.
#36re: African-America Phantom of The Opera?
Posted: 7/15/09 at 10:48am
"book!Phantom isn't white- he's a Turk, if I remember correctly. Only crawford!Phantom establishes him as white."
The book does not establish his ethnic background at all. He's never mentioned as being a Turk.
According to the story, he lived in Persia for a time, but that was never implied to be his country of origin, either.
#37re: African-America Phantom of The Opera?
Posted: 7/15/09 at 11:05amThanks, Jon. You're absolutely correct. I forgot about Sports Night.
#38re: African-America Phantom of The Opera?
Posted: 7/15/09 at 11:13amIt doesn't matter what color the Phantom is. It's not as if he's a woman living with her fathers and brother on a farm confusing audiences 8 times a week at Studio 54.
SporkGoddess
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/27/05
#39re: African-America Phantom of The Opera?
Posted: 7/15/09 at 11:39amThe book says that Erik was born outside of Rouen (sp?), France. So that's where he's from.
#40re: African-America Phantom of The Opera?
Posted: 7/15/09 at 11:40amIf they go that route, I think Denyce Graves would be an excellent Christine.
#41re: African-America Phantom of The Opera?
Posted: 7/15/09 at 11:50am
And let's not forget Webber's blatant grab for publicity when he recently announced Michael Jackson's connection to Phantom. He used to be black. (Side note: The Jackson jukebox musical that is supposed to be holding up Thriller's Broadway bow is called M1: The Phantom and is supposedly a modernization of a very familiar story, nudge nudge. The creators are now trying to run it opposite Webber's disastrous sequel to steal his business.)
#42re: African-America Phantom of The Opera?
Posted: 7/15/09 at 12:05pm
Wasn't it mentioned somewhere that Robert Guillame had a problem with heights and thats why he only hnad a short run?
As for a black Phantom, I guess I wouldnt mind, even though there is a line in the show about yellow parchment skin and all that, then again they are gossiping and you know how things get exagerated "a great black hole for a nose" and all that.
But does Norm have that range? I've only heard him sing a few times, he has a nice voice but it does not sound like he can go up that high, but like I said, I could be wrong, I have noe heard him sing much.
I like to think I am open minded, but I do have to take a double take sometimes with colour blind casting. I remember seing a poster in London with a black Javert (Norm did it, but there was a guy in London too, can't remember his name)
I dont read bios, so I always thought Patricia Phillips was Latino.
#43re: African-America Phantom of The Opera?
Posted: 7/15/09 at 12:06pm
I remember seing a poster in London with a black Javert (Norm did it, but there was a guy in London too, can't remember his name)
Cornell John.
#44re: African-America Phantom of The Opera?
Posted: 7/15/09 at 12:24pm
I'm so sad to hear about BigFatBlonde. I adored her.
And she was not in the slightest bit racist.
RIP, friend.
bwaylvsong
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/28/05
#45re: African-America Phantom of The Opera?
Posted: 7/15/09 at 12:37pmThe Phantom only goes up to an A-flat. I've heard Norm go higher. I hope it happens!
#46re: African-America Phantom of The Opera?
Posted: 7/15/09 at 1:03pm
I'm shocked to read about BFB, when did this happen? That is very sad!
SporkGoddess
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/27/05
#47re: African-America Phantom of The Opera?
Posted: 7/15/09 at 1:05pm
Wait, she died? How?
That's horrible.
AndAllThatJazz22
Broadway Legend Joined: 11/8/08
#48re: African-America Phantom of The Opera?
Posted: 7/15/09 at 1:07pm
Yeah! What happened, I am the father of this thread...I demand information. That just sounds awful
-Danmeg's 10 year old son.
husk_charmer
Broadway Legend Joined: 10/19/06
#49re: African-America Phantom of The Opera?
Posted: 7/15/09 at 1:07pm
blaxx and PJ-
It was around when I had finals, so early-mid May. If you unearth the Kitsch thread on the OT Board, it was locked the day after it happened.
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