Posted: 5/3/16 at 12:10pm
Benjamin Walker deserved Brightman's spot. Brightman is doing an impression, Walker is giving a full-fledged fleshed out character with an emotional pulse. And he's kicking ass 8 times a week.
Posted: 5/3/16 at 12:13pm
Any award nomination process will have snubs and undeserving nods.It ain't gonna change. Life goes on.
Posted: 5/3/16 at 12:14pm
Then why open this thread Roxy?
No, Ben deserved Zach Levi's spot. We could do this all day.
Posted: 5/3/16 at 12:19pm
True! I hadn't realized Levi was nominated. He's fine in the role but doesn't do anything a thousand other actors couldn't do. I think it should have Walker/Nolan instead of Brightman/Levi.
Posted: 5/3/16 at 12:23pm
Unpopular opinion: I think Ben should have been nominated over Lin Manuel Miranda. I have not been able to get into Hamilton at all because of his nasal voice. Nails on a chalkboard. Oh, well.
Posted: 5/3/16 at 12:32pm
smallworld said: "Unpopular opinion: I think Ben should have been nominated over Lin Manuel Miranda. I have not been able to get into Hamilton at all because of his nasal voice. Nails on a chalkboard. Oh, well.
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I wouldn't have been mad if lin wasn't nominated but I knew he was going to be.
I've heard good things about Benjamin Walker in American Psycho but the Tony's didn't seem to care about american psycho at all which is why he wasn't nominated. The Tonys love Hamilton, She loves me, School of rock ,etc.
Updated On: 5/3/16 at 12:32 PM
Posted: 5/3/16 at 1:10pm
I don't think Alex should have been nominated. He's only doing like what six performances a week? As much as he does he has to cut back because of vocal issues? Cynthia is giving an even better out of this world performance and has rarely missed a show due to "vocal problems". That's all I'm saying.
Posted: 5/3/16 at 1:26pm
Very surprised Benjamin Walker was not nominated. It won't close the show necessarily, but not getting a Best Musical nom can be the nail in the coffin for certain shows (RIP Bridges of Madison County).
Posted: 5/3/16 at 1:43pm
I personally really loved American Psycho but I can't say I'm that surprised it didn't get some of the more major nominations like best musical or score. The subject material and adaptation style can be off-putting both for people who don't like the story and fans of the original, and even though I thought the score did a great job encapsulating the feel and time of the piece, it's definitely repetitive and a lot of people didn't like it. The only lack of nominations I'm genuinely surprised by are Ben Walker and Rupert Goold for directing (who I hoped would at least be recognized for creativity alone, if people didn't think it was well-executed).
Posted: 5/3/16 at 1:44pm
The thing that's frustrating to me about American Psycho is we've never had anything like it on Broadway before. The style and the tone of the show are new and unique. And if we don't reward risk taking shows, we won't get any anymore.
Posted: 5/3/16 at 1:49pm
While i understand the show not getting nominated, I defineitly think Ben should've been. He gives such an amazing, disturbing and moving performance. He does an amazing job turning chicken **** to chicken salad, if you will.
Posted: 5/3/16 at 1:55pm
Benjamin should've gotten Lin's spot, without a doubt. It's a much more nuanced role, a much harder role to pull of, and he does it remarkably. I mean, didn't Lin's understudy get a better review than he did from the Times? Of course, Lin can do the role, it was written by him, for him, over the course of years. Even with that, Lin's emotions run from excited to awestruck to on the verge of tears. And besides, two other nominations that he for sure will win, the Tony voters couldn't thrown some bone at Benjamin.
AP I also think it was snubbed in the choreography and score categories.
Posted: 5/3/16 at 2:02pm
JM226 said: "brian1973 said: "Benjamin Walker gives THE best male performance of the year. To be snubbed just so they can throw more nominations at Hamilton is a disgrace.
Why not leave out Laura Benanti and nominate someone in the Hamilton chorus instead?
Lost all respect for the Tonys now.
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do you have any PROOF to back up this CLAIM? also, that's not proper usage of the word "snubbed."
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It was the proper use thanks. Go and patronise someone else.
Posted: 5/3/16 at 2:07pm
Lin was always going to be nominated. I was surprised some people started to doubt his nomination. The Tonys love him. I mean, they awarded his first musical when he was like 27. And he's the star of Broadway's darling. And he is actually good in the role. I haven't seen American Psycho and I'm sure Benjamin Walker is great but he just missed out. I think it would have been Zachary Levi who would have gotten the boot if Walker made it in.
Updated On: 5/3/16 at 02:07 PM
Posted: 5/3/16 at 2:11pm
I saw American Psycho and liked it. I didn't love it and thought it was too long and at times dull, but I liked it. I thought Benjamin Walker was excellent and I agree his performance worthy of a Tony nod.
What I don't understand is the often heard comment that American Psycho is so new and revolutionary. Nothing else like it. I have been attending the theater for over 50 years and a while back when a thread asked everyone to list all the Broadway musicals they've seen, I held the record. I do not think American Psycho is so utterly unique. Its an intriguing musical. It is well designed and has a real shot at winning those awards. Benjamin Walker gives an excellent performance. The subject matter is dark, but there are other darker shows.
I am honestly confused. What makes American Psycho so unique and different than every - even most - musicals that have come before it?
Posted: 5/3/16 at 2:26pm
broadwayboy223 said: "I don't think Alex should have been nominated. He's only doing like what six performances a week? As much as he does he has to cut back because of vocal issues? Cynthia is giving an even better out of this world performance and has rarely missed a show due to "vocal problems". That's all I'm saying.
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Honest question - have you seen School of Rock? If so, you've seen and heard what goes into the role of Dewey and how much training it has to take to not blow out your voice on those songs.
Cynthia has a powerhouse voice and gives an amazing performance. But there are variables that go into being able to maintain that voice, i.e. the individual's vocal cords, ability, training, etc. It's unfair to compare the two.
Benjamin Walker (to me) did the best he could with the show, which I'll admit I didn't enjoy. Patina Miller also missed many performances in Pippin due to illness, but does that mean that she didn't deserve her Tony? I've always felt that it's the performance you give in the qualifying period that counts. Brightman shouldn't be discounted for being sick a few days if it falls within the qualifying number.
Posted: 5/3/16 at 2:34pm
neonlightsxo said: "If we don't reward risk taking shows, we won't get any anymore.
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Yeah, but do you really want to start rewarding risk just for risk's sake? There were a lot of innovative elements in American Psycho (I thought the lighting and set were great, and they were nominated), but overall I thought the whole thing was a big pile of garbage. And no, I wasn't turned off by the subject, and I had never seen the movie or read the book, so it wasn't about comparison. I just thought it was bad. I'm glad I got to see it, because it was indeed original in a lot of ways (and in that sense I sort of liked it), but that doesn't mean it deserves awards.
Posted: 5/3/16 at 2:53pm
broadwayboy223 said: I hope this production is recorded somehow!!!
Just interested...who here would buy this to own on DVD and/or Blu-ray?
Posted: 5/3/16 at 2:54pm
Oh, absolutely, and I thought it mostly didn't work.
Posted: 5/3/16 at 3:02pm
"Yeah, but do you really want to start rewarding risk just for risk's sake? There were a lot of innovative elements in American Psycho (I thought the lighting and set were great, and they were nominated), but overall I thought the whole thing was a big pile of garbage. "
Well I disagree with you there. I didn't say just rewarding risk for risk's sake.
Posted: 5/3/16 at 4:49pm
I agree that AP was brilliant and oddly fresh and was SNUBBED. Benjamin Walker was beyond amazing in a very difficult role. I saw all the other performances with the exception of Alex Brightman. I thought Walkers was the best. Also loved Leslie Odom jr.
Ben Walker was snubbed or robbed. He really really deserved to be recognized.
Posted: 5/3/16 at 6:09pm
only for Benjamin Walker!
Posted: 5/3/16 at 6:30pm
HogansHero said: "re AP's grosses-they are not perilous like some shows. They are within budgeted reserves for this point in time. Now is when a producer has to show what they are worth. See,e.g., Finding Neverland.
re outrage and the like: this is a theatre board. Outrage is in context. No one here labors under the belief that any of this is actually "important" unless they have skin in the game or a job on the line. Anyone who thinks the world has too many problems for anything here to be worthy of emotion is being hypocritical because, by that standard, one should be out saving the planet instead of posting here.
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Thank you for both of your points! I can't speak on behalf of anyone else, but when I am 'dramatic' on this forum it is purely for the sake of humour and interest in the topic. But believe me, I for one did not lose any sleep because AP was 'snubbed'.
And I agree RE: AP's grosses. This is not a case of The Visit/Leap of Faith-type show that has abysmal grosses and is sure to close. It might not be a smash hit, but it is possible the show could continue to build momentum and stay open.
Posted: 5/3/16 at 7:02pm
It's like he already knew at the Met Gala last night that his show wasn't going to get any love.....
