American Psycho was SNUBBED- Page 4

[mamaleh]

Posted: 5/4/16 at 12:19pm

Since AMERICAN PSYCHO was originally supposed to run at Second Stage, maybe if its box office doesn't permit a healthy run on B'way, it might do better in a commercial run Off-B'way,. perhaps at the New World, much as AVENUE Q did --albeit after a much longer and very successful B'way run.  It also seems like a more intimate musical that would play better in a smaller house.  Just a thought.  I know I'd revisit it.

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 5/4/16 at 5:17pm

A lot of good stuff got swept away in the tsunami.

Not really.  Various shows were nominated for various categories.  American Psycho received nominations in some categories and not others.  It was not nominated for Best Musical or Best Actor.  Is a show considered "snubbed" because it was nominated for Tonys, but not all the categories someone may have wanted?  If so, then nearly every show is "snubbed" every year and I'm not sure that is...accurate.  It do people actually believe in the ever-shifting annual Tony Voter conspiracy theories?  The ones that pop up every year when people are whining that their favorite shows didn't get the awards they wanted.  Or they just want to sound like a super duper insider who is totally in the know and desperate to impress others.

And why on earth is anyone comparing a tsunami to a hurricane?  What makes a tsunami bigger or more destructive?  Tsunamis happen with little warning.  Calling Hamilton a tsunami makes no sense.

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[aaaaaa15]

Posted: 5/4/16 at 5:34pm

I agree. It was never a frontrunner to get nominated for Best Musical or Best Score. The show got some of the worst reviews of the season. That's not to say it isn't good or enjoyable but it's not often that a show gets bad reviews and then gets nominated for the big awards. 

 Benjamin Walker not getting nominated was a surprise, but not a huge one. Danny, Leslie and Lin were the locks for that category and Alex, Zachary and Benjamin were left to fight it out for the other two spots. Both leading categories were tough this year. It probably helps that School of Rock and She Loves Me were better received than AP.

I think the Tonys did a good job of spreading the wealth. Only a couple of musicals didn't get any nominations and those closed months ago.

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[binau]

Posted: 5/4/16 at 5:45pm

Mister Matt said: "A lot of good stuff got swept away in the tsunami.

Not really.  Various shows were nominated for various categories.  American Psycho received nominations in some categories and not others.  It was not nominated for Best Musical or Best Actor.  Is a show considered "snubbed" because it was nominated for Tony's, but not all the categories someone may have wanted?  If so, then nearly every show is "snubbed" every year and I'm not sure that is...accurate.  It do people actually believe in the ever-shifting annual Tony Voter conspiarcy theories?  The ones that pop up every year when people are whining that their favorite shows didn't get the awards they wanted.  Or they just want to sound like a super duper insider who is totally in the know and desperate to impress others.

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I think some people are taking the word 'snubbed' a bit to literally. The point of the thread is to just generally express dissatisfaction with the outcome, not to necessarily comment on what happened in terms of the voting. 

[theatreguy12]

Posted: 5/4/16 at 5:57pm

The reviews for AP weren't great, but I thought they were pretty meh, at best, for Bright Star as well. And it has walked away with some of the biggie nods, including best musical. Did BS slip in only because Tuck hasn't fared well and AP didn't get the reviews that it was hoping....even though a lot of audience members do seem to like the latter?

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 5/4/16 at 6:00pm

Yes it was snubbed but so were other worthy shows & performers. To many shows for to few slots.

[aaaaaa15]

Posted: 5/4/16 at 6:00pm

theatreguy12 said: "The reviews for AP weren't great, but I thought they were pretty meh, at best, for Bright Star as well. And it has walked away with some of the biggie nods, including best musical. Did BS slip in only because Tuck hasn't fared well and AP didn't get the reviews that it was hoping....even though a lot of audience members do seem to like the latter?"

Bright Star was a big surprise on the Tony noms for me. I was expecting a Best Score nomination and potentially Leading Actress but Best Musical and Best Book were very surprising, especially as they extended the category for Best Musical to allow for 5 nominees. I guess Best Book this year was always going to be a weird category though as most of the books were criticized.

[theatreguy12]

Posted: 5/4/16 at 6:11pm

Me too, aaaah15. That's why I was curious why they added a fifth nominee for this particular show. Heard the music is good, and Cusack is great. The show overall not so much.  Now I'm wondering if I should see this or School of Rock next week when I'm in NY. I have one more spot open, but I hear the lead in SofR is out a lot. Does he appear on Friday nights usually?

[Mister Matt]

Posted: 5/4/16 at 6:19pm

I think some people are taking the word 'snubbed' a bit to literally.

Sort of like when people take the word "literally" too literally?  Why would snub be used in the thread title in ALL CAPS if it was meant to mean something it's not?    A snub is intentional.  That is why the word is used instead of another word...to imply an intentional act.  Now, if people want to start spouting theories about how the nominating committee conspired to intentionally block American Psycho from specific categories, then I'm be the first to sit on the sofa in my robe and slippers with a big ol' bucket of popcorn and settle in for a night of entertainment, but if you're just disappointed it didn't get nominated for the awards you want, then the use of "snub" has nothing to do with degrees of literal interpretation.  It's just using the wrong word or not knowing the meaning of the word.

[Scarywarhol]

Posted: 5/4/16 at 6:23pm

This really did belong off-Broadway. 

[RippedMan]

Posted: 5/4/16 at 10:25pm

If commercial Off-Broadway was still a viable option, this would have looked great in the Little Shubert. That said, the current production really wouldn't work at 2nd Stage. Was it a smaller production in London? Because the way it's done here, there's no way 2nd Stage could have handled the requirements. 

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 5/4/16 at 10:26pm

Much to big for any off Broadway theater .

[Scarywarhol]

Posted: 5/4/16 at 10:39pm

Both of New World Stage's larger houses would have been a teriffic fit. 

[backwoodsbarbie]

Posted: 5/4/16 at 10:45pm

I just got back from the show and I can only speak for the orchestra, but it was nearly full except for the far aisle seats. I was given row F house left through TDF. I am utterly shocked that Walker was not nominated. I've seen all of the other nominated men and I'd have him tied with Leslie for the best in my opinion. This role and Walker's performance simply seem more important, or more significant than those of Brightman and Levi. Many actors could've performed those roles well, but this was uniquely suited to Walker. The nuances of his performance, particularly the physicality were so specific and precise. I could see Bateman unraveling in front of my eyes. I can understand them not getting the Best Musical nomination, because the show does seem really unfocused, but I did feel that I was witnessing something significant and different.

[Mr Roxy]

Posted: 5/4/16 at 10:46pm

Did not realize they were that Big. They still would have had to do a total refit to accommodate the revolving part of the stage plus the projections would be a hassle. In any event, it is to late now.

[backwoodsbarbie]

Posted: 5/5/16 at 12:11pm

The scene I cannot get out of my head is when the ensemble came out all in white and wiped up the blood. Does anybody know the name of that song? I wanted to download it from the London recording.

[songanddanceman2]

Posted: 5/5/16 at 12:24pm

I think you might be referring to I Am Back 

[Jordan Catalano]

Posted: 5/5/16 at 12:30pm

The image I love is when the bloody bodies crawl in the pile around him. It evokes an image similar to this, which I found really beautiful.

[JM226]

Posted: 5/5/16 at 12:31pm

that is very disturbing.  

[songanddanceman2]

Posted: 5/5/16 at 12:33pm

Yeah Jordan I agree, such a great image.

[Kad]

Posted: 5/5/16 at 12:45pm

backwoodsbarbie said: "The scene I cannot get out of my head is when the ensemble came out all in white and wiped up the blood. Does anybody know the name of that song? I wanted to download it from the London recording."

 

I believe this is a reprise of Clean? It's not in the Playbill songlist.

 

[nolanativeny]

Posted: 5/5/16 at 2:03pm

Kad said: "backwoodsbarbie said: "The scene I cannot get out of my head is when the ensemble came out all in white and wiped up the blood. Does anybody know the name of that song? I wanted to download it from the London recording."

 

I believe this is a reprise of Clean? It's not in the Playbill songlist.

 

 

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Yeah, that's what it is. But I don't think Clean is performed in full, or at least it wasn't when I last saw it. When I saw it first week of previews it opened Act II but I saw it just before open and they had removed it and just had the a cappella one. But it was still in the Playbill. They might have put it back in...

 

But yeah, totally agree, that's one of my favorite parts of the show. It's a very well arranged number vocally, and I was surprised that Duncan Sheik did it, but then I think it probably fits under the "additional vocal arrangements by" credit. And the cast sounds fantastic on it, almost cathedral like. I think they might put an effect on their mics or something, because there's a rich warmth and resonance to the sound in that part in particular that I wouldn't think would occur in a theatre. 

[groucho797]

Posted: 5/5/16 at 2:21pm

It wasn't exactly ignored - they did get two noms, in categories where it excelled (and wins for those categories would at least get it into the history books). I thought it was mesmerizing and truly hope that Duncan's right about it being recorded for posterity - it won't be the same as being there to experience the onslaught firsthand, but with a big enough screen and kicking surround sound, a disc would do in a pinch. I intend to see it at least once more, and I hope they at least make their investment back. The show deserves credibility and respect.

[Kad]

Posted: 5/5/16 at 2:27pm

This musical was never going to be warmly embraced by everyone, or even most people. The novel wasn't. The movie wasn't. If the musical bucked that trend, then something would be wrong with the adaptation.

[ChiTheaterFan]

Posted: 5/5/16 at 2:39pm

I definitely have to see this at least once more.  I was in rear orchestra last time so I want to revisit and sit closer to the abs...  I mean the stage.