There's an actual NY workshop CD. I've seen the CD cover. It's not the sampler.
how about the LA cast.......people, help me out here. Lol
KatePrinceton, thank you *so* much for the insight about L.A. vs. NY.
Now it's certainly clear that what we're all listening to is not the L.A. version, but an early verion of the NY show. I would love to hear the actual L.A. version.
I wonder if part of the difference in perception of the show as it is now is an L.A./NY theater mentality. Not that I'm some huge expert on either, but it seems like theater in L.A. is not as big a deal as it is in N.Y. Which makes me wonder if there were more flaws accepted in the show because there wasn't as high an expectation. This isn't to say L.A. theater is bad or anything, but just that it doesn't seem to be as popular a notion as N.Y. and maybe by sheer numbers it shifts the expectations.
Matt NEVER kissed Ivy and he was also much more religious than he is in NY, which added many other levels to his interactions with the various characters.
Very interesting. Not having seen this take on the character, I do enjoy the puppy dog nipping at Ivy's heels of Matt's character. Matt feels like a really consistent character throughout the show because of that (one of the three that are, IMO), but if he were more religious I could see how his part in Confession, say, would really have a lot of impact.
While I enjoy Natalie Joy Johnson, I absolutely adored Keili Lefkovitz. Her voice was extremely unique and interesting sounding and her acting was spot on.
I love Natalie so I have a hard time imagining someone else in the role, but I've heard nothing but raves about Keili.
As far as the roles of Peter and Jason, both Michael Arden and John Hill are much better suited for the roles than John Torres and John Griffin. They were fine in the roles, but nothing exciting or memorable.
I don't know who is singing on these songs, but vocally they're just not up to par. If it is John Torres and John Griffin, I can see what they were going for vocally with Jason, but not so much with Peter since Michael is light years away from whomever is singing on these demos. It's interesting that the central characters weren't exactly spark plugs though. Makes me wonder what people were attached to from the L.A. show?
"Plain Jane Fat Ass" was my favorite song from the show and I think cutting it was a huge mistake in NY. It really set up Nadia's feelings about Ivy and her brother and family and by cutting it, her character's motivation is severely short-changed.
The more I listen to it, the more sense this song makes over Love, Dad. If they could somehow expand Jason's part in the song, this could be dropped back in flawlessly. Spring, while very funny, is another song that comes out of nowhere in the NY show (and I realize is used to transition the time) but would make so much more sense with Plain Jane Fat Ass having been in the show earlier.
Many of the problems the show had in LA seem to have been ignored and some of the changes in NY seem to add more structural problems instead of addressing issues that were already there.
If you don't mind me asking, what structural problems do you think were ignored and/or exacerbated in the transfer?
due to immediate response (2day4u) I've changed the icon again :-P
I never said I didn't like it :-P
Blue: The Bare Bunch song :)
I tried to upload an icon for here, but it is giving me a blank pic--does that mean mine is too big?
I tried to upload an icon for here, but it is giving me a blank pic--does that mean mine is too big?
I told you to stop taking pictures of your private parts...
There's an actual NY workshop CD. I've seen the CD cover. It's not the sampler.
Now that I look at that cover, I wonder if it's not what we're all talking about. The date on that cover is "November 21, 2002", which would put it after L.A. but before NY. Hmmm...
YIKES! Would I do that my love?
Besides, who here in Manhattan hasn't already seen Newcomer's private parts!
YIKES! Would I do that my love?
Now I know what's *really* on that digital camcorder of yours!
MOG--Wow, this coming from the girl who I accompanied to the Bryant Park potties
Edited to add that I still can't load an icon and I am getting pissy! LOL
Updated On: 8/29/04 at 06:21 PM
Make it about 100 x 100 and it shouldn't distort too much and be able to load.
MOG--Wow, this coming from the girl who I accompanied to the Bryant Park potties
Aww... and you were sweet enough to wait for me too. You da man.
Edited to add that I still can't load an icon and I am getting pissy! LOL
Have you tried scaling the pic down a bit and trying that? Is it a picture that you have saved to your computer?
Wait, Newcomer's private parts? LA cast chat stuff?
I hate being sick. I've missed too many pages. I'm a bad Ardenite.
Hey gals--it says it is uploaded, but then it gives me a white box :)
Feel better Star!
Oh MOG--I meant that Bryant Park thing as being sarcastic, like I hooked up with you there...lol....web humor falls flat again! I am going to try to scale back the pic
Updated On: 8/29/04 at 06:50 PM
But it's a very pretty white box! What picture are you trying to put up? I'll try and help if I can.
starlyricist, hope you're feeling better!
Oh MOG--I meant that Bryant Park thing as being sarcastic, like I hooked up with you there...lol....web humor falls flat again! I am going to try to scale back the pic
LOL! Totally my fault. I literally walked in the door five minutes before I read the post so it was a drive-by read. :)
And yes, we did get it on in the bathroom though it really killed the mood when you yelled out Michael's name in the middle of the umm...action.
Star honey, feel better. We miss you.
Edited to say IT WORKED!! Loving you MOG (and Trisky to!) Updated On: 8/29/04 at 07:07 PM
Oh Newcomer, it's so cute!!
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Yay! Too much cuteness between the two of you for one picture. I don't know who to stare at first.
awwww. so cute. who's the hottie next to mikey?
The rate I am going I may have more fans then Michael! I should have posted my pic earlier! LOL...back to my fantasy world! LOL
Well then I get to be president of the fanclub Newcomer!
Wow....Michael is wearing the same thing in both ur pics! WEIRD!!!! :-P
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