#1
Posted: 6/4/17 at 11:04pm
After the Drama Desk win, does CFA enter the Tony's as the favorite for Best Musical?
CFA now the favorite for Tony?
#2
Posted: 6/4/17 at 11:08pm
No because it's biggest competition is Dear Evan Hansen and The Great Comet who weren't even eligible at the Drama Desk Awards this year.
#3
Posted: 6/4/17 at 11:08pm
I would say it's going to be a very close race between DEH and CFA. I would love to say it's the favorite but DEH has momentuem that's been building up for months now. I'm excited to see what happens!
#4
Posted: 6/4/17 at 11:10pm
I think it's still anyone's guess, as The Great Comet was ineligible this year because it competed in 2013(loosing to Matilda). Dear Evan Hanson would have been eligible for last year's award, but it wasn't nominated, but it doesn't mean it could still be a spoiler since it has momentum this year as a breakout hit (vs Come From Away which seems more like a sleeper hit). I think the only one we can definitely cross off is Groundhog Day. It has its charms, but it's not winning against those other three.
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#5
Posted: 6/4/17 at 11:11pm
I think it's pretty set for Best Book of a Musical at this point. Although the momentum is now there, I still don't think it has a chance for Best Musical against DEH or Comet.
#6
Posted: 6/4/17 at 11:12pm
I really want it to win, it probably needs the award more than the other two. I think it has a lot going for it that would warrant a win.
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#7
Posted: 6/4/17 at 11:13pm
I don't think the Drama Desks had anything to do with it, but Come From Away has always felt for me the biggest threat to Dear Evan Hansen for Best Musical. It feels foolish to count it out entirely.
I am a firm believer in serendipity- all the random pieces coming together in one wonderful moment, when suddenly you see what their purpose was all along.
#8
Posted: 6/4/17 at 11:15pm
I would adore Great Comet to be the surprise victor, but believe Come From Away will most likely (deservingly) take it. Unless the Tony Awards completely ride the DEH hype/sensation train, I truly feel there is a strong chance for 2 of the better musicals (or even Groundhog Day which is sensational as well) to take the prize. Even Ben Platt lost at the Drama Desks last year even though you all claim he's giving one of the best performances ever, and I would love to see Andy Karl repeat his win. Sorry to be "that guy", but I just don't believe DEH is the Best Musical of 16/17, and that the hype is completely unjustified.
Updated On: 6/4/17 at 11:15 PM
#9
Posted: 6/4/17 at 11:16pm
VotePeron said: "I just don't believe DEH is the Best Musical of 16/17, and that the hype is completely unjustified."
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#10
Posted: 6/4/17 at 11:20pm
I've been saying since December is was going to win and it's still my pick.
#11
Posted: 6/4/17 at 11:26pm
Considering Comet won the most awards of the night, despite being ineligible for most of the categories, I'd say no.
At this point, I don't see a strong frontrunner between the three.
#12
Posted: 6/4/17 at 11:39pm
Is it me or this year is one of the most divisive of the decade? I think several of us could see any of the three (CFA, DEH, Comet) winning and not being surprised.
I root for CFA, tho.
#13
Posted: 6/5/17 at 12:06am
It IS the most divisive. I feel like I'm one of the few who loved all three, but I'm rooting for DEH. It was the best written show in my opinion and the cast elevated it, too. I loved Come From Away, but it's one fault for me is that it came off as too "and this is what happened then". I'm not sure how to describe that, but it may not be a fault at all, just not my cup of tea. I also loved Comet and it probably needs the award the most out of the three, but still wasn't my favorite. I'm rooting for Dear Evan Hansen, but will be happy with any winner.
#14
Posted: 6/5/17 at 12:07am
I wonder how much the tough competition has to do with shows postponing their openings until after Hamilton. Do you know about the history of the shows, and whether the shows made the conscious decision to move in after, or it is a pure coincidence with their timing?
#15
Posted: 6/5/17 at 12:10am
Pure coincidence, I think. There certainly was no shortage of new musicals last year up against Hamilton. At that time though, Dear Evan Hansen hadn't started its Second Stage run, Come From Away hadn't started all their out of town tryouts, and Comet had to wait for the fall because of Groban's touring schedule. Just timing, really.
I am a firm believer in serendipity- all the random pieces coming together in one wonderful moment, when suddenly you see what their purpose was all along.
#16
Posted: 6/5/17 at 12:19am
Dear Evan Hansen is going to win the Tony for best musical, best book and best score. CFA and Great Comet don't have a chance. I saw all three this past week for the first time. The electricity in the air at Evan Hansen was comparable to Hamilton. The other two have their supporters but, if we were told the actual voting results, i would bet that DEH would get 60 - 70% of the votes.
#17
Posted: 6/5/17 at 12:21am
I also saw all three over the past week, and whilst the teenagers in DEH's audience are enthusiastic, they have no say on the Tonys and the 'electricity' was in no way comparable to Hamilton, at least not any time I've seen the latter.
If we went off audience reactions, Anastasia would have 10 nominations.
Updated On: 6/5/17 at 12:21 AM
#18
Posted: 6/5/17 at 12:26am
I think another reason I want Dear Evan Hansen to win is so it can limit the amount of people calling it a show for teens when it's really much more than that.
#19
Posted: 6/5/17 at 12:28am
LesWickedly said: "I think another reason I want Dear Evan Hansen to win is so it can limit the amount of people calling it a show for teens when it's really much more than that."
If you're talking about me, I didn't say that. I said it is mainly teenagers that had the enthusiastic response to the show when I saw it.
The show is for teenagers in the sense that that's who it's being marketed towards. That doesn't stop others from seeing it/enjoying it.
Updated On: 6/5/17 at 12:28 AM
#20
Posted: 6/5/17 at 12:33am
Not you directly, just reminded me of people's criticism.
#21
Posted: 6/5/17 at 12:44am
Fair enough! For the record, I don't think a show being for teenagers has to be a criticism. Teenagers make up a large percentage of the world and deserve art made for them too, just as all other age groups do. And if these pieces of art impress people from other age groups too, then that's just a bonus.
#22
Posted: 6/5/17 at 12:46am
froote said: "I also saw all three over the past week, and whilst the teenagers in DEH's audience are enthusiastic, they have no say on the Tonys and the 'electricity' was in no way comparable to Hamilton, at least not any time I've seen the latter.
If we went off audience reactions, Anastasia would have 10 nominations.
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If that's the case, I wish they went off audience reactions. 
#23
Posted: 6/5/17 at 12:49am
froote said: "I also saw all three over the past week, and whilst the teenagers in DEH's audience are enthusiastic, they have no say on the Tonys and the 'electricity' was in no way comparable to Hamilton, at least not any time I've seen the latter.
If we went off audience reactions, Anastasia would have 10 nominations.
The audience I attended with was a very traditional one, with very few teenagers. Also, so what!! If they actually get more out of it that traditional audiences, I think that says something for the success of the writing.
#24
Posted: 6/5/17 at 12:50am
It will win. There is nothing particularly strong about its book, score or performances but the themes and overall heartfelt message is too perfect for the current poliical climate to go unnoticed. If Hillary had won the election it wouldn't have won.
Give me claws and a hunch, just away from this bunch.
#25
Posted: 6/5/17 at 12:53am
Jarethan, my point is that audiences (whether teenagers or traditional audiences) don't decide what wins Tonys. So stating that DEH is going to win musical, score and book so definitively in such a competitive year - by 60-70% - because of enthusiastic audiences is naive and overly presumptuous. Particularly so when you state two other musicals that have been both critically acclaimed and performed well with other awards have 'no chance'. As I said, Anastasia's audiences are just as enthusiastic and it didn't turn out so well for them on the awards front. Likewise, Wicked would have been an easy winner if this was how the Tonys were judged.
Of course you can believe what you want and maybe you will be right, but I don't think you're using an accurate metric of judgement.
Updated On: 6/5/17 at 12:53 AM
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