CFA now the favorite for Tony? — Page 2

Jarethan, my point is that audiences (whether teenagers or traditional audiences) don't decide what wins Tonys. So stating that DEH is going to win musical, score and book so definitively in such a competitive year - by 60-70% - because of enthusiastic audiences is naive and overly presumptuous. Particularly so when you state two other musicals that have been both critically acclaimed and performed well with other awards have 'no chance'. As I said, Anastasia's audiences are just as enthusiastic and it didn't turn out so well for them on the awards front. Likewise, Wicked would have been an easy winner if this was how the Tonys were judged.

Of course you can believe what you want and maybe you will be right, but I don't think you're using an accurate metric of judgement.

Updated On: 6/5/17 at 12:53 AM

I recently visited my hometown and the school that I went to and when I asked anyone what they thought about the current broadway season, the only show that they could name was Dear Evan Hansen (and Hello, Dolly!). Have whatever opinion you want about the show, it has somehow reached out beyond the normal NYC theatre crowd and effected a lot of people from all over the US. It may not be as big a phenomenon as Hamilton, but it's still much bigger than the any of the recent best musical winners or nominees. It really is the hot new show in town, regardless of what everyone on here thinks of it. Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with DEH or The Great Comet winning.

Dear Evan Hansen will win. Just because it wasn't eligible at the Drama Desks doesn't all of a sudden mean CFA is the frontrunner. But you can predict CFA and look dumb while I'll pick DEH and look like a Tonys scholar.

Also, it's a completely different voting body between the Drama Desks and the Tonys, so even if all 3 had been eligible, what would that really tell us?

With that said, yes, it still seems to be a neck and neck race between DEH and CFA, with Hansen still having a slight edge, but Come From Away definitely a strong contender.

It's interesting that many seem to think Rachel Chavkin will win for Direction but predict either Dear Evan Hansen or Come From Away will win Best Musical. The last time the production of a Best Direction of a Musical winner didn't win was in 2006 when John Doyle won for Sweeney Todd.

My vote would be for DEH, but from everything I've heard said about Comet lately and the word of mouth, it almost seems like the underdog compared to Comet.

After Eight said: "What a lamentable state of affairs."

Perhaps you should consider going to church and reciting the Book of Lamentations rather than the theatre.

P.S. You seem to be advocating for awards based on the taste of children rather than adults. LOL

245601 said: "HeyMrMusic said: "It's interesting that many seem to think Rachel Chavkin will win for Direction but predict either Dear Evan Hansen or Come From Away will win Best Musical. The last time the production of a Best Direction of a Musical winner didn't win was in 2006 when John Doyle won for Sweeney Todd.



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No, it was in 2013 when Diane Paulus won Best Direction for Pippin



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If we're talking about musicals that were eligible for best new musical and not revival then the previous point about 2006 is correct.

If there is anything we know about the Tony's last night it is that The Great Comet will likely walk away with the most awards of the night winning anywhere from 3-6 awards including the locks of Best Scenic Design, Lighting Design, Director, the More likely than not Best Choreography, Costumes, The Likely Best Orchestrations, and then the actual competitive races Featured Actor and Best Musical.

The Great Comet:

Near Locks: Scenic Design, Lighting Design, Director

More Likely then Not: Choreography, Costumes

Competitive: Musical, Best Featured Actor, Orchestrations

If there's a Sweep: Score, Book

Come From Away:

Near Locks: Best Featured Actress

Likely: Book

Competitive: Musical, Score

If there's a sweep: Orchestrations, Choreography

Dear Evan Hansen:

Near Locks: Best Actor

Likely: Score, Musical

Competitive: Book, Orchestrations,

If there's a Sweep: Featured Actress, Featured Actor, Director

TigerBait88 said: "245601 said: "HeyMrMusic said: "It's interesting that many seem to think Rachel Chavkin will win for Direction but predict either Dear Evan Hansen or Come From Away will win Best Musical. The last time the production of a Best Direction of a Musical winner didn't win was in 2006 when John Doyle won for Sweeney Todd.



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No, it was in 2013 when Diane Paulus won Best Direction for Pippin



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If we're talking about musicals that were eligible for best new musical and not revival then the previous point about 2006 is correct.



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...but Sweeney Todd was a revival too

VotePeron said: "I would adore Great Comet to be the surprise victor, but believe Come From Away will most likely (deservingly) take it. Unless the Tony Awards completely ride the DEH hype/sensation train, I truly feel there is a strong chance for 2 of the better musicals (or even Groundhog Day which is sensational as well) to take the prize. Even Ben Platt lost at the Drama Desks last year even though you all claim he's giving one of the best performances ever, and I would love to see Andy Karl repeat his win. Sorry to be "that guy", but I just don't believe DEH is the Best Musical of 16/17, and that the hype is completely unjustified.



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I don't think he was even nominated last year. I believe only RBJ was.



And I just checked: he wasn't nominated:

Outstanding Actor in a Musical
**Danny Burstein, Fiddler on the Roof**
Robert Creighton, Cagney, York Theatre Company
Michael C. Hall, Lazarus, New York Theatre Workshop
Zachary Levi, She Loves Me
Benjamin Walker, American Psycho

Updated On: 6/5/17 at 11:02 AM

I think Paloma Young has the edge for costumes, especially since a lot of Dolly's costumes seem to be inspired by the original design concepts.

Updated On: 6/5/17 at 11:26 AM

245601 said: "TigerBait88 said: "245601 said: "HeyMrMusic said: "It's interesting that many seem to think Rachel Chavkin will win for Direction but predict either Dear Evan Hansen or Come From Away will win Best Musical. The last time the production of a Best Direction of a Musical winner didn't win was in 2006 when John Doyle won for Sweeney Todd.



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No, it was in 2013 when Diane Paulus won Best Direction for Pippin



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If we're talking about musicals that were eligible for best new musical and not revival then the previous point about 2006 is correct.



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...but Sweeney Todd was a revival too



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I don't think Sweeney won best revival, though