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Cabaret-- a Discussion

theatrebabe
#225re: Cabaret-- a Discussion
Posted: 8/22/05 at 11:59pm

i ahve a question,
i've never seen the stage production of Cabaret(tears)but i've seen the movie and i read somewhere that Michael Yorks character is not in the stage one. how is that?


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way_to_spend_the_day
#226re: Cabaret-- a Discussion
Posted: 8/23/05 at 12:21am

Theatrebabe, Michael York's character is essentially the same in the show. However, Helmut Griem's character is not in the play. There is an entire subplot cut out of the movie which involves the woman running the boarding house and a Jewish produce man. It is somewhat paralleled in the movie because with Helmut Griem and his lover, there is some of the same skepticism and reluctance to the Jewish nationality of each of them, but I guess the movie thought a younger couple would work better. The movie is very different from the show and both are great, but I prefer the show.


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theatrebabe
#227re: Cabaret-- a Discussion
Posted: 8/23/05 at 11:29am

thany you very much,clears a lot up for me way_to_spend_the_day


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Emcee4ever
#228re: Cabaret-- a Discussion
Posted: 8/23/05 at 4:19pm

Michael York's character was English instead of American in the movie.

Fosse76
#229re: Cabaret-- a Discussion
Posted: 8/23/05 at 4:35pm

It balances, since in the movie Sally Bowles is American and in the play she is English. :o)

Emcee4ever
#230re: Cabaret-- a Discussion
Posted: 8/23/05 at 5:53pm

Thats because they didn't think Liza could sound British and still be convincing. :p

Emcee4ever
#231re: Cabaret-- a Discussion
Posted: 8/24/05 at 8:48pm

I think Natasha is the best Sally and Alan is the best MC. :)

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Emcee4ever
#233re: Cabaret-- a Discussion
Posted: 8/30/05 at 6:36pm

And now a joke. re: Cabaret-- a Discussion

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ljay889
#234re: Cabaret-- a Discussion
Posted: 8/30/05 at 7:01pm

Okay. I'm a new CABARET fan. And I'm finding all these different versions so damn confusing.

So I was wondering what was the youngest age to get in at the recent revival of Cabaret, and what was the recommended age? I know it was a night club setting, where alcohol was serves. So I was curious.

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Thenardier
#235re: Cabaret-- a Discussion
Posted: 8/30/05 at 7:03pm

Well, I don't think there was one - other than a normal show.


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ljay889
#236re: Cabaret-- a Discussion
Posted: 8/30/05 at 7:07pm

Every show has a recommended age. Chicago is over 12, DRS is 11, Wicked is 8 Just to name a few.

And they have an age limit to get into the theatre, which is usually 4 years old.

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Thenardier
#237re: Cabaret-- a Discussion
Posted: 8/30/05 at 7:09pm

That's what I mean.

I don't think it was anything out of the ordinary.


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ljay889
#238re: Cabaret-- a Discussion
Posted: 8/30/05 at 7:16pm

Was Cabaret more sexual than Chicago??

The costumes look equally as sexual to Chicago's costumes. And Chicago has some sexual moments.

So just curious if Cabaret was more sexual?

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Thenardier
#239re: Cabaret-- a Discussion
Posted: 8/30/05 at 7:17pm

Cabaret had more nudity.

Plus the whole Two Ladies seen...was worse than anything in CHICAGO.


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ljay889
#240re: Cabaret-- a Discussion
Posted: 8/30/05 at 7:23pm

Hmmm. Interesting.

Although Chicago insinuates that a orgy is happening when Kitty walks in on her husband with two women and a man.

And in ROXIE dosen't Rox just lay on the stage and Fred comes and lays on top of her, and she moans. i'm pretty sure that happens.

Those are just a few of the raunchy things I love to witness when I visit Chicago.. re: Cabaret-- a Discussion

Emcee4ever
#241re: Cabaret-- a Discussion
Posted: 8/30/05 at 7:34pm

Yeah but in Cabaret it had the Emcee with Lulu and Bobby (in drag) and they went behind a screen and did all kinds of...poses.

When they were done they went "Oooh! Ahh! Oooh! Ahhh!"

And one of the lyrics is "We switch partners daily to play as we please."

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ljay889
#242re: Cabaret-- a Discussion
Posted: 8/30/05 at 7:38pm

That's lovely.

But can you answer my question I had about the recommended age, etc?

Emcee4ever
#243re: Cabaret-- a Discussion
Posted: 8/30/05 at 7:39pm

I think 13 or older. But I'm not sure.

Emcee4ever
#244re: Cabaret-- a Discussion
Posted: 9/2/05 at 3:39pm

Do you want to see it or something?

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ljay889
#245re: Cabaret-- a Discussion
Posted: 9/2/05 at 3:47pm

Yes I do, I am sad I missed it.

But I was asking about the ages, out of pure curiousity.

Emcee4ever
#246re: Cabaret-- a Discussion
Posted: 9/2/05 at 7:33pm

Oooh! Ooh! Cliff and Bobby kiss!

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luvtheEmcee
#247re: Cabaret-- a Discussion
Posted: 9/2/05 at 8:49pm

Oh, gosh. I don't know that it's concrete. I guess thirteen or fourteen is safe, but use your judgement based on the individual - and on the particular production.

I think the revival was far more sexually charged than the current Chicago production is, though.


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JulianHookbucks
#248re: Cabaret-- a Discussion
Posted: 9/2/05 at 11:50pm

when do Cliff and Bobby kiss?

and I suggest that if they're open mature theatre kids, who know that it's a raunchy show, with a lot of "contrevarsial content" then I'd say you can bring a 12-13 year old... but otherwise, I'd say at least 14 to 15 if they're mature... but it depends on the person...


that's a really big mic...

Emcee4ever
#249re: Cabaret-- a Discussion
Posted: 9/3/05 at 12:02am

They kiss right before 'Mein Herr' (in the revival)


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