I will truly never forget those scenes with the demises of Violet and Veruca, especially Veruca because that was absolutely horrifying. I was in complete shock the entire time during the Veruca sequence, because I just couldn't believe it was happening and that families had brought their kids to this.
I know someone going out on the tour and I wasn't planning on seeing this again, but I'm definitely going to see them in it.
"Anybody that goes to the theater, I think we’re all misfits, so we ended up on stage or in the audience.” --- Patti LuPone.
ClumsyDude15 said: "I will truly never forget those scenes with the demises of Violet and Veruca, especially Veruca because that was absolutely horrifying. I was in complete shock the entire time during the Veruca sequence, because I just couldn't believe it was happening and that families had brought their kids to this.
I know someone going out on the tour and I wasn't planning on seeing this again, but I'm definitely going to see them in it."
They were horrifying! But the children sitting near me seemed fine--not sure what that says about them.
I couldn't see the majority of the kids around me during that moment, but I was just absolutely stunned by it. I've heard they're reworking things for the tour and I hope something is done with that scene because it's just horrifying. Why not go the route of the original movie and have her fall down the Bad Nut shoot or even if you're going for the more Tim Burtonesque route have the squirrels carry her off like they do in the remake.
"Anybody that goes to the theater, I think we’re all misfits, so we ended up on stage or in the audience.” --- Patti LuPone.
There were MANY horrifying things about Charlie and the Chocolate Factory on Broadway. The children's deaths ranks among one of the most horrifying though. I REALLY hope that they are reworking the show for the tour, because the Broadway production was a complete misfire in every single aspect.
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ClumsyDude15 said: "I couldn't see the majority of the kids around me during that moment, but I was just absolutely stunned by it. I've heard they're reworking things for the tour and I hope something is done with that scene because it's just horrifying. Why not go the route of the original movie and have her fall down the Bad Nut shoot or even if you're going for the more Tim Burtonesque route have the squirrels carry her off like they do in the remake."
I prefer the Bad Egg shoot because how it was done in the original movie was even funnier than the squirrels
The squirrels also offer more of an opportunity for visual flair - the film used geese (and the chute) primarily because making the squirrels do what they did in the book would've been impossible without clumsy puppetry, and it would be difficult to translate them to the musical unless Veruca got her own song or the song was rewritten as a Swan Lake pastiche, rather than the current Nutcracker mouse-battle gag.
All they need to do is put in a scene at the end, like in the original book, where the kids are shown to be fine. Altered, but alive. Or even just have Wonka say outright that there's a way to restore them, the way he does in the movie. The fact that the musical just kind of outright kills the kids, as opposed to punishing them and their parents but leaving them alive, is the worst thing about it.
I have to confess that watching several insufferably entitled millennial parents screaming about how the scenes scarred their kids ... when their kids couldn't care less, probably after seeing things much worse daily on tv, made the entire show for me.
South Fl Marc said: "I have to confess that watching several insufferably entitled millennial parents screaming about how the scenes scarred their kids ... when their kids couldn't care less, probably after seeing things much worse daily on tv, made the entire show for me."
Yes, the kids around me--including a VERY well behaved toddler--were fine. My late teen daughter and I were way more shocked. I agree with the above poster that in the book/movie the kids are all shown to be okay at the end is a better finish. I do believe Veruca called out for her Daddy after the squirrels carried her body parts off stage implying she was alive, but it's been awhile since I saw the show.
Like I said, the kids around me were fine, but the girls demises in the show were extreme. My daughter, who doesn't even like kids, was horrified for the children in the audience. I'm thinking most kids viewed it as cartoon violence and were fine. Personally, it seemed like one of those Putnam County Spelling Bee nights for Adults--ramp up the off-color jokes,violence--in this case-for the adults only show. That said, it all happens so fast and the show doesn't dwell on it. I will never forget those moments though--so I good for them.
ChairinMain - I believe in previews they had a scene at the end showing the kids being okay, but it was cut. I do hope they also put a scene like that in for the tour because as it stands there's no way Veruca or Violet lived to see another day while you could make a case for Augustus and Mike is fine just tiny.
"Anybody that goes to the theater, I think we’re all misfits, so we ended up on stage or in the audience.” --- Patti LuPone.
ChairinMain said: "All they need to do is put in a scene at the end, like in the original book, where the kids are shown to be fine. Altered, but alive.Or even just have Wonka say outrightthat there's a way to restore them, the way he does in the movie. The fact that the musical just kind of outright kills the kids, as opposed to punishing them and their parents but leaving them alive, is the worst thing about it."
I saw the show in early previews, and they did have a scene at the end that showed the kids to be alive. It did nothing to make the show any better, though, as the show itself was just plain horrific to begin with.
"There’s nothing quite like the power and the passion of Broadway music. "
bwayphreak234 said: "ChairinMain said: "All they need to do is put in a scene at the end, like in the original book, where the kids are shown to be fine. Altered, but alive.Or even just have Wonka say outrightthat there's a way to restore them, the way he does in the movie. The fact that the musical just kind of outright kills the kids, as opposed to punishing them and their parents but leaving them alive, is the worst thing about it."
I saw the show in early previews, and they did have a scene at the end that showed the kids to be alive. It did nothing to make the show any better, though,as the showitself was just plain horrific to begin with."
Well, yes. There are many things to be improved--like cutting the dead father dance. When I think back on it the kids dying is always first in mind.
Agreed, Gink, agreed. The show itself was a huge mess, but the demise of the kids really is the first thing I recall and am still not over. I hated how the book basically left Charlie and his family in the original movie compared to the other kids being a direct connection to more of the Tim Burton movie because their timelines did not match up. Also, the score was pretty dreadful sans the classic songs from the film and a very small handful of the new songs.
"Anybody that goes to the theater, I think we’re all misfits, so we ended up on stage or in the audience.” --- Patti LuPone.
I didn’t see this show, so for someone that did and is willing to say, how exactly did they stage the “demises” of Violet and Veruca? Now I’m dying to know!
Edit: Sorry, just finished reading the first page of this thread... where I should have started...
¿Macavity? said: "I didn’t see this show, so for someone that did and is willing to say, how exactly did they stage the “demises” of Violet and Veruca? Now I’m dying to know!"
Violet blows up--literally. Her costume expands like in the movies, she goes offstage and then blows up and her father, who was at the edge of the stage is showered with her guts. It's not gory--but it's purple stuff ,ribbons and fabric, etc-- implied his daughter has blown up--on him. If my memory serves me, Veruca scrambles up a conveyor belt and comes back in pieces. I do remember the squirrels on stage with her limbs hoisted in the air--including her severed head.
While I know the staging might change for the tour, can anyone tell me if sitting house left or house right is better for this show? My local venue offers partial view orchestra seats on the side that are 50% cheaper than full view orchestra seats. I wasn't impressed with the score for this one, and wasn't planning on seeing it, but I'm thinking about grabbing one of the partial view seats. Just wondering if there's anything in the set design or staging that would make one side preferable to the other.
angoradebs said: "While I know the staging might change for the tour, can anyone tell me if sitting house left or house right is better for this show? My local venue offers partial view orchestra seats on the side that are 50% cheaper than full view orchestra seats.I wasn't impressed with the score for this one, and wasn't planning on seeing it, but I'm thinking about grabbing one of the partial view seats. Just wondering if there's anything in the set design or staging that would make one side preferable to the other."
The Broadway production barely had a set. If the same set is used on tour, partial view shouldn't be a problem as there is no set to really miss out on.
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Gink said: "¿Macavity? said: "I didn’t see this show, so for someone that did and is willing to say, how exactly did they stage the “demises” of Violet and Veruca? Now I’m dying to know!"
Violetblows up--literally. Her costume expands like in the movies,she goes offstage and then blows up and her father, who was at the edge of the stage is showered with her guts. It's not gory--but it's purple stuff ,ribbons and fabric, etc--implied his daughter has blown up--on him. If my memory serves me, Veruca scrambles up a conveyor belt and comes back in pieces. I do remember the squirrels on stage with her limbs hoisted in the air--including her severed head."
Thank you! And wow, that is horrifying! What were they thinking?