City of Angels revival ever? — Page 2

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Any thoughts about Cole Porter's "But In The Morning, No?" "Do you do double entry dear? But in the morning, no."

Mister Matt, if you find "The Ball Is in Your Court" "sexy" or "flirtatious", I would assume you are 12. But the rest of your argument is too skilled for a pre-teen.

No need to get nasty. I said it was a matter of preference and taste.

Comparing "It Needs Work" to "Send in the Clowns", however, is laughable.

No, it is not. I was responding directly to "But they have an immediate meaning that one can grasp even among the distractions of live production."

As for Amy's lyric in "Not Getting Married Today", she's SUPPOSED to sound madder and madder until she is simply babbling nonsensically. Have you heard the song in the show?

Of course I have. The lyric I mention is actually in a section where the lyrics are delivered more slowly than the patter-babble sections and is part of very specific directive intent on the character.

Regardless, I realize there is no point in responding directly to your comments. No doubt you are the more mature and intellectually superior one. Meanwhile, I'll continue to enjoy the brilliance I find in Zippel's lyrics to the entire score of City of Angels with a smile on my face.

Please. Give me one example where Zippel doesn't anything so beautiful.

I wasn't talking about any of that. You mentioned "immediate meaning" which I challenged based on not only my own experience of City of Angels, but prior questions regarding Sondheim lyrics that had come up over the years. I know exactly what Send in the Clowns means both in context of the song and the meaning of the phrase itself, but not everyone does. You're attempting to force a comparison I wasn't making.

And it isn't just a matter of taste; wit and elegance can be measured objectively. The Zippel lyric isn't even funny.

That is your subjective opinion including your own personal measurement of the wit and elegance you require of a lyric. I think the song is cute and fun, but I'm not even trying to make the case that this specific song is why I regard Zippel's work on this show so highly. In a score I love from start to finish, it's one of my least favorite songs from the show. I just don't share the same contempt for it as you. On the whole, I enjoy the City of Angels score more than some of Sondheim's scores. I'll always acknowledge Sondheim's genius, but I don't always enjoy his product.

Oh, for crap's sake. I'm not begging my opinion be shared with anyone, so why do you have to force it? Is there some inherent need you have to be so insistent that I am wrong and you are right, even in personal opinions?

YOU HAVE BEATEN ME DOWN! I NO LONGER THINK ZIPPEL IS FIT TO LICK SONDHEIM'S BOOTS AND I WILL NEVER DARE TO ENJOY HIS WORK OR THINK HIS NAME IS EVEN WORTHY OF THE MERE MENTION IN THE SAME SENTENCE AS OF HIS HOLY SONDHEIM FROM THIS DAY FORTH. YOU HAVE FAIRLY WON AND MY OPINION SHALL NOW ALIGN WITH YOURS AND ALL OTHERS THAT FALL UNDER THE PURVIEW OF YOUR GODLY OMNISCIENCE. YOU WIN! CONGRATULATIONS! YOU ARE NOW AND FOREVER CORRECT! MY OPINION IS NOTHING! I AM UNWORTHY!

Not that I mean a word of it, but hopefully, it will satiate your need for superiority. I hate Beavis and Butthead, so I don't even know if they'd like the song or not. But obviously, you would know better.

If Side Show can have a revival surely this can.

We'll probably have to wait for Follies to flop again before it happens. And at least two more revivals of Gypsy.

Mister Matt said: "If Side Show can have a revival surely this can.

We'll probably have to wait for Follies to flop again before it happens. And at least two more revivals of Gypsy."



Don't forget another terribly misguided revival of Guys and Dolls that sucks all the humor and fun out the show.

Mister Matt said: "I love everything about the show. The book, score, lyrics, staging and performances were all exceptional. To me, Zippel's lyrics are right up there with Sondheim (someone else whose lyrics often contain ingenuity that isn't noticeable on the first listen). I was hoping Donmar's Olivier award winning revival would transfer. I'd love to see another top-notch production of the show again."

Oh no. Oh, no, no. The Donmar production could not hold a candle to the original Broadway. It was poorly directed and Hadley Frasier wasn't compelling (and you need a charismatic actor for that difficult role). Tam Mutu had it easier but his boring portrayal f'ed up Stone too (Dear God let him be fired from the "Secret Garden" tour before it reaches New York!!). The only real highlight of the Donmar production was Rosalie Craig who's rendition of "It Takes Work" was a master class.

Updated On: 7/11/17 at 07:36 PM