#1
Posted: 12/28/13 at 2:32am
Keys and vocal stuff aside, could this work as a man in drag?
Imagine...
Imagine...
Could Margaret White in 'Carrie: The Musical' be played by a man in drag?
#2
Posted: 12/28/13 at 2:35am
I'd really rather not.
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#3
Posted: 12/28/13 at 2:40am
I'm pretty sure it's been done before. But it's not really my cup of tea because in my opinion it takes away from the message.
#4
Posted: 12/28/13 at 2:41am
What would it add?
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#5
Posted: 12/28/13 at 2:43am
Well, somethingwicked, the original show is apparently not campy ENOUGH, so why the hell not add a drag queen Margaret into it, right?
But seriously, I don't understand why that'd be an addition to CARRIE. It has enough issues as it is (and I'm coming at it from the point of someone who appreciates gender-blind casting).
But seriously, I don't understand why that'd be an addition to CARRIE. It has enough issues as it is (and I'm coming at it from the point of someone who appreciates gender-blind casting).
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#6
Posted: 12/28/13 at 3:53am
Why
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#7
Posted: 12/28/13 at 4:20am
Even more camp? But "And Eve was Weak" and "I remember how the boys would dance" are great songs for a drag queen to lip synch to.
#8
Posted: 12/28/13 at 5:28am
Well, here's the thing. If we're talking drag, then I say it doesn't need the camp. It's got enough and adding drag would be overkill. However. If we're talking about cross-gender casting with a man that can act the hell out of it and sing it in the right keys, then I say sure.
#9
Posted: 12/28/13 at 6:16am
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#10
Posted: 12/28/13 at 7:55am
To this question I always ask: why is it ever necessary? What did it add to Hairspray? Or Matilda? I'm not uncomfortable with the drag aspect, but as a woman, I always wonder why are some great female roles taken away from, well, WOMEN? There are already far more men's roles in all medium of acting, and fewer men attempting to get them -- why make it worse?
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#11
Posted: 12/28/13 at 8:06am
^ Why don't you ask all the women who have played Peter Pan and Hansel and Edwin Drood?
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#12
Posted: 12/28/13 at 8:21am
I think not, because it might make the show a little less dull (albeit in a strange way), and this show was written to be unremittingly dull and banal.
#13
Posted: 12/28/13 at 8:35am
They removed the camp elements and they got a show that's just boring, safe, and generic, so why not?
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#14
Posted: 12/28/13 at 8:43am
Nah.
#15
Posted: 12/28/13 at 9:06am
BAD idea. Totally takes away from the message. I mean, this is fiction already, but it's frightening. Why make a comedy out of it also?
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#16
Posted: 12/28/13 at 9:13am
Pan...hard to find an adult male that could physically pull of looking like a young boy.
Drood...based on English Music Hall tradition of male impersonators
Hansel? I'm assuming this in opera form? I wouldn't begin to know.
Drood...based on English Music Hall tradition of male impersonators
Hansel? I'm assuming this in opera form? I wouldn't begin to know.
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#17
Posted: 12/28/13 at 9:31am
You would hate opera, dramamama. It's full of women playing men's roles.
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#18
Posted: 12/28/13 at 9:41am
I never said I didn't want to see it, I just asked why it was necessary. I know nothing about opera, so thanks for the information.
However, the question as to WHY it is ever needed (no matter which way the drag plays) is not addressed. I'm not bashing it, just posing a question.
However, the question as to WHY it is ever needed (no matter which way the drag plays) is not addressed. I'm not bashing it, just posing a question.
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#19
Posted: 12/28/13 at 9:42am
Though not a full production, here ya go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7KDDnrH6X8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7KDDnrH6X8
#20
Posted: 12/28/13 at 9:42am
In Humperdinck's opera, Hansel and Gretel are both played by women--and the witch is played by a man:
In Strauss's Der Rosenkavalier, the title role of the Rose Cavalier is played by a woman. The opening scene has him (played by her) lolling around in bed with his older female lover. The result often has boundary-breaking exquisite lesbian erotic subtext:
The "taking roles away from women/taking roles away from men" argument usually misses the point.
In Strauss's Der Rosenkavalier, the title role of the Rose Cavalier is played by a woman. The opening scene has him (played by her) lolling around in bed with his older female lover. The result often has boundary-breaking exquisite lesbian erotic subtext:
The "taking roles away from women/taking roles away from men" argument usually misses the point.
#21
Posted: 12/28/13 at 10:19am
Once you start trying to justify the "necessity" of anything in art, it dies.
#22
Posted: 12/28/13 at 2:52pm
My opinion on cross gender, color blind, etc. casting has always been let a performer come in and blow me away. If you forget about what you are looking for and just look at who is in front of you, the right person will walk into the room. That person may change your whole vision of the show you're casting with 16 bars of a song.
There are fishy enough drag queens out there to play Margaret in The Light in the Piazza.
There are fishy enough drag queens out there to play Margaret in The Light in the Piazza.
#23
Posted: 12/28/13 at 6:42pm
As to the person asking "Why?"
Sometimes the better actor and best choice for the roll ends up being a guy. Not all performances by men in women's rolls come off as funny and campy. There are great actors out there. And the same goes for women in pants rolls.
Sometimes the better actor and best choice for the roll ends up being a guy. Not all performances by men in women's rolls come off as funny and campy. There are great actors out there. And the same goes for women in pants rolls.
#24
Posted: 12/29/13 at 8:28pm
There's no such thing as "the best person for the role." It's just what the director or producer wants for whatever reason.
#25
Posted: 12/29/13 at 10:01pm
Something tells me MLK being played by a white man or Abe Lincoln being played by a black would not cut it. Color blind casting is good to a point. Portraying a fictional character it works. For a real personality I do not think it does. Just an opinion however.
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