Cynthia Erivo is an Oscar away from an EGOT- Page 2

[binau]

Posted: 4/29/17 at 2:48pm

TheQuibbler said: "Erivo wining an Emmy for this performance is no less ridiculous than Audra McDonald receiving an Emmy for introducing Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street - In Concert with the New York Philharmonic. 

 

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Didn't she also play the beggar woman?

 

[jcrispee2]

Posted: 4/29/17 at 2:55pm

I thought I had read some where that the performers didn't get the Emmy but the show it was on. So in this case, I thought The Today Show was the winner of the Emmy, not the cast. Am I wrong?

[TheQuibbler]

Posted: 4/29/17 at 2:56pm

qolbinau said: "TheQuibbler said: "Erivo wining an Emmy for this performance is no less ridiculous than Audra McDonald receiving an Emmy for introducing Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street - In Concert with the New York Philharmonic. 

 

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Didn't she also play the beggar woman?"

 

She did, but she technically won for hosting Live From Lincoln Center in the Outstanding Special Class Program category. It was broken down like this:
 

Outstanding Special Class Program
Andrew Carl Wilk (executive producer), Allen Kelman (supervising producer), Douglas Chang (producer), Elizabeth W. Scott (produced by), Audra McDonald (host) For "Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street - In Concert with the New York Philharmonic"

 

[IdinaBellFoster]

Posted: 4/29/17 at 3:09pm

Cynthia tweeted that she also gets an Emmy award. The producers confirmed this with her. 

[MadsonMelo]

Posted: 4/29/17 at 3:28pm

I, actually, find interesting that she won 3 awards for the same role. Imagine if they do a film version of the musical lol

And there are only 12 people who have an EGOT, so it's a select club that only enjoy 3-4 per decade, so it's something, especially because it's really hard to win an Oscar and, lesser extent, a Tony. For the AMOUNT of categories that Grammy and Emmys, they are easier, but Elton John, ALWebber and Sondheim doesn't have the Emmy, Mr Menken is trying hard to get one (openly trying) and the list of actors that can't get a Grammy is tremendous as well.

[Hellob]

Posted: 4/29/17 at 3:49pm

MadsonMelo said: "I, actually, find interesting that she won 3 awards for the same role. Imagine if they do a film version of the musical lol

And there are only 12 people who have an EGOT, so it's a select club that only enjoy 3-4 per decade, so it's something, especially because it's really hard to win an Oscar and, lesser extent, a Tony. For the AMOUNT of categories that Grammy and Emmys, they are easier, but Elton John, ALWebber and Sondheim doesn't have the Emmy, Mr Menken is trying hard to get one (openly trying) and the list of actors that can't get a Grammy is tremendous as well.

 

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Joel Grey would have won 3 awards for the MC if vocalists got OBCR Grammys back then 

edited to say that I did look at it and he's listed as a winner for the OBCR so he did win 3 awards for the same role according to the Wikipedia information for the 10th annual Grammy

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/10th_Annual_Grammy_Awards

 

Updated On: 4/29/17 at 03:49 PM

[jcrispee2]

Posted: 4/29/17 at 4:06pm

IdinaBellFoster said: "Cynthia tweeted that she also gets an Emmy award. The producers confirmed this with her. 

 

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Thanks for the clarification!

Isn't it interesting that the Today show performance that she wins the Emmy for was filmed the morning he was nominated for the Tony! 

[jcrispee2]

Posted: 4/29/17 at 4:06pm

IdinaBellFoster said: "Cynthia tweeted that she also gets an Emmy award. The producers confirmed this with her. 

 

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Thanks for the clarification!

Isn't it interesting that the Today show performance that she wins the Emmy for was filmed the morning he was nominated for the Tony! 

[MadsonMelo]

Posted: 4/29/17 at 4:11pm

Hellob said: "MadsonMelo said: "I, actually, find interesting that she won 3 awards for the same role. Imagine if they do a film version of the musical lol

And there are only 12 people who have an EGOT, so it's a select club that only enjoy 3-4 per decade, so it's something, especially because it's really hard to win an Oscar and, lesser extent, a Tony. For the AMOUNT of categories that Grammy and Emmys, they are easier, but Elton John, ALWebber and Sondheim doesn't have the Emmy, Mr Menken is trying hard to get one (openly trying) and the list of actors that can't get a Grammy is tremendous as well.

 

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Joel Grey would have won 3 awards for the MC if vocalists got OBCR Grammys back then 

edited to say that I did look at it and he's listed as a winner for the OBCR so he did win 3 awards for the same role according to the Wikipedia information for the 10th annual Grammy

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/10th_Annual_Grammy_Awards

 

 

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Sadly, he didn't get the award. The grammy site doesn't list him or any other performer because the vocalists didn't get the Grammy until 2012, Andrew Rannells and Josh Gad were the first vocalists to also receive the award.

[Jeffrey Karasarides]

Posted: 4/29/17 at 4:46pm

MadsonMelo said: "And there are only 12 people who have an EGOT, so it's a select club that only enjoy 3-4 per decade, so it's something, especially because it's really hard to win an Oscar and, lesser extent, a Tony. For the AMOUNT of categories that Grammy and Emmys, they are easier, but Elton John, ALWebber and Sondheim doesn't have the Emmy, Mr Menken is trying hard to get one (openly trying) and the list of actors that can't get a Grammy is tremendous as well."

Alan Menken actually has a Special Emmy Award he received in 1990 for a song he and Howard Ashman wrote for Cartoon All-Stars to the Rescue. So technically, he has an EGOT, just not competitively.

[MadsonMelo]

Posted: 4/29/17 at 5:14pm

I know but it's funny because when he won the Tony for Newsies (2012, If I recall), he wasn't an EGOT winner, actually he was written musics for ''The Neighbors'', got a nom for original music the next year, and back then, no EGOT Status. Then, suddenly this award came up out of the blue.

And even though, those EGOT winners with no-competitive awards like him ain't the same. Not that a list with Minnelli, Streisand, Earl Jones, Menken, Belafonte and Quincy Jones is less than, literally, legendary, but again, not the same.

[silent]

Posted: 5/1/17 at 2:30pm

I would've been very confused if she hadn't gotten a trophy. The category itself is about performance. 

[jimmycurry01]

Posted: 5/1/17 at 9:13pm

ACL2006 said: "Whoopi Goldberg's? EGOT is always debated. She got the Tony for producing Millie & her Emmy is for Hollywood Squares. 

Same for Erivo, getting an Emmy for a 4 minute appearance on a talk show? I don't know.

 

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I thought all it takes is an award in a competitive category. Whoopi got her award in a competitive category. Her credit as a producer is just as legitimate as any other producer, at least to my knowledge. Can you elaborate on the debate?

[bk]

Posted: 5/1/17 at 9:53pm

Unless the Grammy rules have changed, the award for a revival cast album goes to the producer of the album and the label.  Not the cast.  So while she was obviously part of the recording, unless they've changed the wording, no, she did not win a Grammy.  And unless they gave each and every cast member who appeared with her on the talk show a Grammy, then...

[HenryTDobson]

Posted: 5/1/17 at 9:58pm

bk said: "Unless the Grammy rules have changed, the award for a revival cast album goes to the producer of the album and the label.  Not the cast.  So while she was obviously part of the recording, unless they've changed the wording, no, she did not win a Grammy.  And unless they gave each and every cast member who appeared with her on the talk show a Grammy, then..

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This is incorrect. Erivo won a Grammy for the Color Purple album, as did Jennifer Hudson and Danielle Brooks. They are listed as "principal soloists."

http://www.playbill.com/article/the-color-purple-cast-album-wins-the-grammy

[ScottyDoesn'tKnow2]

Posted: 5/1/17 at 10:20pm

Hellob said: "MadsonMelo said: "I, actually, find interesting that she won 3 awards for the same role. Imagine if they do a film version of the musical lol

And there are only 12 people who have an EGOT, so it's a select club that only enjoy 3-4 per decade, so it's something, especially because it's really hard to win an Oscar and, lesser extent, a Tony. For the AMOUNT of categories that Grammy and Emmys, they are easier, but Elton John, ALWebber and Sondheim doesn't have the Emmy, Mr Menken is trying hard to get one (openly trying) and the list of actors that can't get a Grammy is tremendous as well.

 

"

Joel Grey would have won 3 awards for the MC if vocalists got OBCR Grammys back then 

edited to say that I did look at it and he's listed as a winner for the OBCR so he did win 3 awards for the same role according to the Wikipedia information for the 10th annual Grammy

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/10th_Annual_Grammy_Awards

 

 

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Not for the same role, but if the current rules applied in 2005, then Kristin Chenoweth would have been an Oscar away from EGOT as well.

Anyway, as for the idea that EGOT wasn't really a sought after thing until 30 Rock made a joke out of it based on Miami Vice's Phillip Michael Thomas did an interview and introduced the acronym into the public consciousness AND even made a necklace with the acronym, here is The Atlantic article about that:

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2016/06/the-strange-tragicomic-history-of-egot/486182/

I think before it was a nice trivia question sort of thing and something some writers may have mentioned about the subject of their articles, but now some more ambitious celebs have now made it into a goal and are conscious of it as a status symbol that didn't quite exist before the way it does now. Also, stans use it as tools to attack their goddess/god's rivals. Something did change once "EGOT" became a thing in recent history.

"And only two (Rudin and Lopez) achieved EGOT status and realized it at the time, since EGOT didn’t really exist before 2009."

Updated On: 5/1/17 at 10:20 PM