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I saw that on facebook. Anyone who called to complain about the woman was hung up on. Danny was directing people to call internal affairs because hanging up on a civilian is a huge no-no.
Nick Adams and his little entourage need to be kept indoors. They seem to cause a ruckus everytime they parade themselves throughout the city.
Seriously.
Neither Nick Adams or Marty Thomas had anything to do with this incident, what pray tell are you talking about?
Or is this a sad attempt at humor... the "Seriously." leads me to believe that it isn't.
Updated On: 9/28/09 at 03:40 PM
Nick posts all these articles on his Facebook page. They ALL concern either him being discriminated on or one of his many friends.
I just saw a trailer for the NYC ABC Channel 7 5:00 News that lead me to believe they will be doing a spot about this.
I think the two incidents are very different, especially with the latter resulting in violence. That's disturbing.
This has nothing to do with Nick Adams.
It is Nick Adamsesque...
Nick is busy filming Sex and the City. I don't think he has time to be out getting assaulted on 9th avenue.
My friend, Alec, was one of the guys who was assaulted. He and the others are perfectly fine. Thankfully, it didn't go any further than it did. This makes me absolutely livid. It's time for things like this to stop. I hope everyone can do their part in raising awareness for equality NOW! And something has got to be done about the NYPD. The lack of effort on their part is just not acceptable.
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It doesn't ultimately matter if it's about Nick or Danny or anyone. The bottom line is a crime was committed and the police chose to in essence turn a blind eye. If Nick or anyone else chooses to post the article on their facebook or blog, then good. The more people who know about it, the stronger the pressure that can be put on the police to act appropriately in the future.
Being friends with Nick Adams or linked on his facebook shouldn't relinquish one's right to speak out about being physically assaulted as a victim of a hate crime and neglected by the NYPD.
I don't think any of us were there when Nick's incident occured so cannot afford to assess the severity, but the assault on 9th Avenue this past Friday seems to have had serious physical implications and has reached as far as the mayor's office as Christine Quinn has launched the investigation of this as a hate crime.
It's rather disheartening to see on a Broadway message board people using the "boy who cried wolf" response to someone in the LGTB community speaking up about an assault on them. The victims were young, attractive gay men with ties to the Broadway community so they're automatically lumped in to whatever claims Nick Adams made on his twitter weeks ago?
Updated On: 9/28/09 at 04:41 PM
Also a good reminder that sometimes it's good to just keep walking in these situations (and this is from personal experience). You never know when a crazy is holding a knife or has a gaggle of friends around to back him up. It could have ended much, much worse. Words hurt, but sometimes you just gotta let 'em go.
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"It is Nick Adamsesque..."
LOL
Alec is also a friend of mine, and it definitely hit too close to home for me. Apparently one of the assailants was a Marine.
^That surprises me very little. No offense to anyone who puts their life on the line for the public, but in my experience the most people I've had confrontations with were soldiers, cops and fireman. And country musicians, but that's a whole other area completely.
I'd also heard that a marine was involved and the police used that as their reasoning to not hold him.
ABC-7 ONLINE NEWS VIDEO HERE:
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/video?id=7037145
Look... words can be just as violent as actions. Youre definitely right that sometimes the best case is to just keep walking. But at least officially filing allegations (3 days later) is showing NYPD that our feathers can only be ruffled so often.
The statistics in the report are depressing!
61% of hate crime victims dont report to NYPD
22% of those who did, the cops refused to take the report
22% is a large number, but keep in mind that's still not the majority and is probably far lower than it might have been 20 years ago.
Look. Hate crimes, however big or small, are wrong. But puffing out your chest and crying discrimination at even the smallest transgressions do very little good. The figure that 22% of cops don't formally report these kind of things is disturbing, but have the hope that it will continue to go down in the coming decades. The world doesn't become a United Colors of Benetton ad overnight. Everyone has to understand that, or we'll cause more harm than good.
You misunderstood me, Eug. I didn't say they shouldn't have reported this. Not once it became an assault. And the responding officers should be investigated.
I'm just saying that when you're walking the streets of New York and someone calls you a faggot, it's not always the best thing to confront that person. It's not fighting discrimination. That person has absolutely no power. He's just a jackass on the street.
There are some cases where ignoring them isn't going to work, and for all I know, this might have been one of them. But this is still a dangerous city, kiddos. My former roommate got his nose broken on the subway in Brooklyn. Another friend was assaulted in the East Village. Both were instances where some crazy was talking trash, and they engaged.
Aw, Alec is on BroadwayWorld! Sort of
Lumen2, I understand your point, but are you suggesting that not pushing the issue will make more cops report crimes? Yes, progress has been made in getting them to process crimes, but that's BECAUSE people have insisted that things like this matter.
Being physically assaulted and called a faggot isn't a "small" hate crime. And expecting that to be reported accurately by the police is not "causing more harm than good."
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"Look... words can be just as violent as actions."
No, no they can not. Eug, I know you're passionate, and I know many variations of this canard have been tossed around for years (my least favorite: "Sometimes words hurt more than a fist"), but I think it does a real disservice to victims of violence to say being called a name is the same thing as being punched in the face.
And I know anti-violence agencies are fighting the good fight (whoops, there's those "violent" words again), but when they keep statistics they include somebody calling somebody a name in there with people hit in the head with a brick.
He yelled "Faggot," threw a lit cigarette at him, slammed his face onto a car fender hard enough to dent it, drawing blood from the victim.
I say that's the same as getting hit with a brick.
If that had happened to me, I would want the perp charged, tried and incarcerated.
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