Dumb Hamilton Article re: Cast Album vs. Movie

Actually, I completely agree with what the article is saying. Personally, I find the production laughably over-choreographed, to the point of being distracting. And as the article said, it's perfectly easy to follow the show, and get a sense of the show's brilliant qualities through the cast album. I would even say that the score sounds better on the album than it does live.

Having said that, I agree with you, macbeth, in the sense that this article doesn't really serve much of a purpose. If someone wants to see it live, or if they think they might like the staging, then there's no purpose in telling them they shouldn't (except to dissuade people from putting more money in Disney's pocket). It's all a matter of opinion, and the writer of this article can't predict whether people will like the staging or not.

I think it's fair game for the author to critique the production, and make the claim that the cast album is better than the production. But to spin that by saying "YOU don't need to watch it" is a little bit presumptuous. But she probably just did that to make the article more of a click-bait.

I also tend to agree that the strength of the show is more in the writing and performances than the staging, although seeing the video will bring out the performances in a way that isn't possible in an audio-only cast recording, so the article seems kind of pointless to me.

Agree with the above, the star of the show is the score and seeing the show in person adds surprisingly little to the cast recording experience.

I'm in full agreement with the article too. I'd been replaying the cd in my headphones for 2 years of morning jogs around the reservoir and found the score thrilling and complete in my mind's eye.

Then we booked tickets to see the sit-down company at the Pantages (LA), and were dumbstruck by how inert the live show seemed by comparison. Everything seemed played straight out to the audience like a choral reading or song cycle. Where was the person to person drama? Where were the hypnotic stage pictures? And what the hell was that ensemble doing with their insanely distracting choreography? We were not fans.

I'll be watching the filmed show avidly, mostly to see the chemistry between the original cast which I never got to see. Otherwise, good or bad, I'll always have the thrill of listening to the cast album whenever I want, inside of the perfect proscenium of my own mind.

I agree with JBroadway about the choreography. It was repetitive and distracting for me. I also am not a fan of Lin as an actor. I enjoy his music. I do enjoy the score for In The Heights more but credit to him for writing a good complex score for Hamilton. I want to see what he does next.

Also, wasn't it supposed to start streaming on July 3rd? I see that it is streaming now according to a banner at the top of this site but as I am typing there is a commercial on TV saying the 3rd.

I have to say that I think Hamilton is a great show, the score and orchestration are brilliant, the performances on the OCR uniformly perfect.

That said, I have always felt that the show was over-directed and choreographed. I didn't feel that way the first time I saw it...I was just so happy to be there in front of the orchestra (very side) seats. We were so close that I really enjoyed the facial expressions and interactions up close...they were definitely there. I clearly lost the perspective that you get from the center raider section of the orchestra, but for once that did not detract from my enjoyment at all.

I saw the show two additional times in NYC, from that great elevated center section of the orchestra, back when you could get 15th row center or so and not pay premium prices, and once in a theatre barn in Tampa, in good but not great seats. Those three viewings left me with the same reaction. I thoroughly enjoyed the performance, but really thought the show just seemed too busy, and could have benefitted from a bit of a 'less is more' attitude. I definitely would have enjoyed it even more if I were not so focused on how busy it was for me.

Wow, I had no idea so many people aren't fans of the staging of Hamilton! For me, it's one of the most perfectly staged things I've seen in my life--I rank that staging up there with Michael Bennett's work on A Chorus Line and Jerome Robbins's on West Side Story. And for me, the reason the production really works is the way all of the elements work together to tell a coherent story together, each taking their turn. There is so much happening on stage most of the time, but I always know what to look at because the staging foregrounds the most important event, or the lighting brings your focus to the right part of the stage, or the color of the costumes draw your eye to the most important character. It is "busy" in that there's a lot of detail--far too much to take it all in in one viewing--but the detail never overwhelms the whole. And the production is unafraid to also be extremely simple in tender moments, like "Dear Theodosia," which consists of the two men simply facing front while sitting in chairs ten feet apart. Or the gesture that always makes me cry, in "It's Quiet Uptown" when Alexander and Eliza stand side by side and she grabs his hand as the ensemble sings the word "forgiveness," observing from the perimeter of the stage. Thomas Kail knows when to pull back and use simplicity as a tool, and he also knows how to navigate massive choreography and complex lighting cues without getting the audience lost. The three times that I've seen the show live, my reaction to the staging was "I can't believe this is working" because usually that much detail in the background comes at the sake of clarity, but somehow the elements all complement each other in such a way that together, they bring more clarity to the text. Of course, if your experience was different, defend your opinion by all means, but I just want to say that for those of us who love the staging of Hamilton, it's not necessarily because we have a "more is more" outlook. Personally, I couldn't stand The Great Comet and thought it worked much better on the album for the precise reason that that production's "more is more" philosophy was overwhelming and left little room to breathe.

I think it's really funny when people call a simple set that was designed to not distract from the performers "boring". I think people's expectations were set too high after listening to the cast recording, perhaps expecting the exact same thing on stage, ever after all those people left? Strange.

I saw Hamilton at the Public and on Broadway before the cast recording came out. It remains one of the most spectacular, important, and brilliant works of art of all time. The touring casts and people came after the original cast will never hold a candle to them, in my opinion. That cast was the best of the best, and their chemistry remains unmatched.

Hey, I love me a simple set. But the world you create within it physically has to make it worthwhile. I greatly look forward to seeing new director/choreographers take on Hamilton, I think there’s totally new (valid) angles you can take it from that will only add to the piece.

Good point, and I look forward to that as well.

I saw it on Bwy and i thought the cast recording was a better more exhilarating experience to listen to with my eyes closes, than watching the actual show.

Agree, Satisfied (staging and song) is absolutely brilliant.