'Einstein On The Beach' on NBC?- Page 2

[HogansHero]

Posted: 12/6/15 at 12:18am

CindersGolightly said: "Very familiar with "Einstein On the Beach". Completely believe Grande could pull it off."

THAT is not even close to the most implausible aspect of this faux-hoax.

[chewy5000]

Posted: 12/6/15 at 7:49am

Philip Glass would be rolling in his grave.

[sparklemotion]

Posted: 12/6/15 at 8:49am

there is just no way this is real. 

[PalJoey]

Posted: 12/6/15 at 9:10am

 

[HogansHero]

Posted: 12/6/15 at 9:18am

chewy5000 said: "Philip Glass would be rolling in his grave."

it would have to kill him first........

[temms]

Posted: 12/6/15 at 10:59am

But which role would Ariana play?!? She would DESTROY "I Was In This Prematurely Air Conditioned Supermarket", but I would be LIVING to hear her "And If You See Those Baggy Pants, Mr. Bojangles".

Updated On: 12/6/15 at 10:59 AM

[musikman]

Posted: 12/6/15 at 11:23am

This thread makes me want to do a head==>desk almost as much as the Twitter people complaining about The Wiz being all black.  

Einstein on the Beach is RARELY performed. Among the other 875 million reasons this is completely absurd, the composer notes that the audience may stay/leave as they choose during a performance.  I'm sure NBC is just aching to do this ..... ??

[gypsy101]

Posted: 12/6/15 at 8:09pm

musikman said: "Einstein on the Beach is RARELY performed. Among the other 875 million reasons this is completely absurd, the composer notes that the audience may stay/leave as they choose during a performance.  I'm sure NBC is just aching to do this ..... ??"

 

Isn't any audience allowed to stay and leave a performance as they choose? We aren't strapped to our seats normally.

[chewy5000]

Posted: 12/7/15 at 1:44am

I think she'd be great as the chick who shoots her lover on the train.

[Charley Kringas Inc]

Posted: 12/7/15 at 2:04am

I'm voting for Lin Manuel-Miranda as Crazy Eddie.

[chewy5000]

Posted: 12/7/15 at 2:53am

I hope they use the original 'Paris' monologue, you know, in keeping with the spirit of the original production.

[temms]

Posted: 12/7/15 at 12:04pm

But the Kalamazoo speech is so fun! Ne-Yo would be awesome at it. 

[dramamama611]

Posted: 12/7/15 at 4:32pm

Am I the only person that has never heard of this show...(an opera, yes?)

[Charley Kringas Inc]

Posted: 12/8/15 at 2:35am

It's an "opera" in the sense that it requires a very large and well-equipped stage to perform (as opera houses usually area), but also in the tradition of co-creator Robert Wilson's slow-theater "silent operas", which were seven, twelve, even twenty-four hour productions that illustrated a central theme in a very, very lateral way. You can see a "produced" example of one of his most famous early pieces here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t-NtrLzgkE On film/video it loses some of its power but that's the general gist of it - very, very slow, with dreamlike surprises (the window suddenly frosting over, the lamp over the sink bending) and a sense of both mysterious surprise and unutterably ancient ritual.

 

And Philip Glass, who came from the same late-60s-early-70s New York punky school of art as Wilson (see also: Meredith Monk, Talking Heads, Laurie Anderson), is, of course, the famous minimalist composer, whose music focuses on repetition and shifting patterns of tones and harmonies. At the time he took on Einstein on the Beach, Glass had recently finished an almost three-and-a-half hour work called "Music in 12 Parts", which he considered a summation of all that he'd learned up until then. You can hear the first part here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7fcHnR7UF0 Again, generally representative, and you can probably see why Glass and Wilson would go well together.

 

The third major contributor was Christopher Knowles, a deeply autistic boy Robert Wilson had previously collaborated with on several shows, including A Letter For Queen Victoria, which went to Broadway in 1974 (a very different time, surely). You can see examples of his “typings” and poems on Google, and are typically both obsessive and almost non-euclidian, exploding and looping in abrupt ways, visiting and revisiting patterns and points of reference. For Einstein on the Beach, Wilson sat down and asked Knowles what he knew about Albert Einstein, who Glass and Wilson had settled on as their subject. Knowles went into his room and typed up a twelve-part manuscript that had essentially nothing to do with Einstein at all, and acts more like a kind of wild, kaleidoscopic reflection of American culture, such as the “I Feel The Earth Move” monologue, which you can read here http://nicolas.sceaux.free.fr/einstein/text_trial2.html and which is spoken onstage at a breathlessly fast pace with no pauses at all.

 

The opera itself is performed in its four-and-a-half-hour entirety without an intermission, and theatergoers are allowed to exit and enter the auditorium as they like. It’s a nice idea in theory but in practice it’s actually kind of annoying, because getting up and down for people who have to pee or want to stretch their legs breaks the concentration that’s essential to the show. Beyond that, it’s also annoying to have to look away, because things are constantly happening. Wilson’s general mode is to pack the stage with objects and people, all moving on their own planes and intents, in converging and diverging patterns. Aided by his design and lighting, as well as the texts from Knowles and others, and Glass’s hypnotic, pulsing music, it becomes a piece of contemplation. You can see an assortment of (handheld-bootleg) clips here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8evRrDmdyQM

A full taping of the production was recently made and will hopefully be released soon, but it’s easy to find if you put your eyepatch on.

[dramamama611]

Posted: 12/8/15 at 4:09am

Wow, tganks for the info, Charles!

[ErinDillyFan]

Posted: 12/8/15 at 3:15pm

This is hilarious.  Almost 5 hours of repetitive music with no story or dialog and basically a static stage with people moving in super slow motion. Even PBS would never broadcast it in any where near full length.  

I love the music, sitting in my living room in 40 minute doses.  But, I left the premier of the last tour with about 1 hr to go.  This would have been included in "A Clockwork Orange" hypnosis scenes if it had been written when the movie came out....

[Charley Kringas Inc]

Posted: 12/8/15 at 7:50pm

Aw, you missed two of the best scenes!