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GLEE's fate

Posted: 6/2/10 at 6:05am

I was just curious...Glee seems to be everywhere right now, including dominating the videos and news topics on this website. Do you think that Glee will suffer the same fate as Wicked i.e. once the novelty has worn off, it will lose its credibility (and solely in Glee's case, its popularity), fast.
It was just a thought, because I know that once a show becomes overly popular, I start to lose interest.

GLEE's fate

Posted: 6/2/10 at 6:13am

When Broadwayworld was writing articles and having videos of Glee's comeback midway through it's season, i started getting sick of waiting for it to return. but then I watched it and forgave it cause it was and is awesome.

Yeah, i think it will eventually die down, but not sure when.

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GLEE's fate

Posted: 6/2/10 at 6:17am

Obviously there is a limited amount of time that it can run due to the age of the cast an the fact it is set in a school. Lose the characters and there is no show.

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Posted: 6/2/10 at 6:23am

I think it has 2-3 seasons in it, but its already struggling to have any kind of real plot, the second part of the season has been very hit and miss. Based on quite a big office I work in, and on what people are saying, that seems to be the general feeling. Of course season 2 could bounce back in amazing form.

I can see it being like Ugly betty, when the novelty wares off and it has no where to go it will just run out of steam.

GLEE's fate

Posted: 6/2/10 at 10:29am

Or do like 90210 and go to colledge, get new characters, no one will be able to recognise the show, then they will cancel it and revive it in another 20 years with Lea's character playing in Wicked which will probably still be running by then.

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GLEE's fate

Posted: 6/2/10 at 10:33am

For me, I get a little tired of seeing the show everywhere online. Not to mention constant posts on Facebook. I could be wrong, but I think all of the sneak peeks and song clips leading up to episodes might result in over saturation for them. I don't watch Fox shows so I don't see commercials for them but I don't need to.

As far as the comparison to Wicked, Yeah, the major hype has died down but when it comes to town people are scrambling to get tickets and I can still wear my t-shirt from the show and have several people approach me to ask if I have seen it and engage in conversation about it.

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Updated On: 6/2/10 at 10:33 AM

GLEE's fate

Posted: 6/2/10 at 10:48am

I predict 3 seasons.

Enjoy it while it lasts, kids.

The writing is SO awful but the MOMENTS are so incredible. And they're packing them in there. They're going to be struggling very, very soon to come up with NEW story that's just as dramatic and interesting as they started off with.

They go to Regionals, they go to State, they go to Nationals, they graduate. That's it.

I PREDICT:

At Regionals they come second and become an alternate. Adrenaline won't be able to perform, or they will bow out, and the McKinley students will be able to perform at State.

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Posted: 6/2/10 at 10:53am

i think it is unfair to say that Wicked has lost credibility because of the intense popularity it has experienced. there is just a certain breed of people, especially in the theatre community, to feel the need to reject anything that becomes too popular. i could never quite understand it. maybe wicked isnt someones cup of tea, but i dont see the need to discredit it just becuase it has a huge following. it seems a little ridiculous especially considering the massive amount of people it has brought to broadway.

I love glee myself, but I can admit that the episodes have been a little weak as of late. It seems like they were rushed. But I have high hopes for season 2, I think they will have more time to sit down and write the episodes more thoroughly and learn from what worked and what didn't from the Back 9 episodes.

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Posted: 6/2/10 at 11:05am

I suspect Murphy had no real plan beyond the first set of episodes - the Road to Sectionals. It had a perfect ending with character resolutions and was very satisfactory. Since then, the show has kind of wandered - the formula of weekly assignment - the winking nods of "let me sing a song" - the overly convoluted plots and even more inconsistencies of character, story and time (Heck, even this last episode, Sue goes into her "funk" on Thursday, the Cheerios haven't practiced in "days" but are at Nationals on Saturday?) - the guest stars who haven't really been explored - the gimmicky themes. I suspect Murphy had no idead the show would actually be popular and get extended beyond the initial series order. Hence, the long hiatus and rushed feeling of this back nine.

Hopefully, Murphy will get recharged and start telling stories again instead of stumbling to regionals.

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Posted: 6/2/10 at 11:14am

Capn, I thought the same thing last night about where they place at regionals. it would be too much of a "happy ending" type scenario if they win. They need some set-up for next season.

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#11

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Posted: 6/2/10 at 11:24am

The thing is if they don't win then the program loses its funding and there isn't a next season.

I think Glee is a little High school Musical. When HSM came out everyone was so pumped and into it nobody stopped to realize how terrible it was. By the time the second one came out there still were the a lot of fans but there were also the "haters" who knew this wasn't the best thing out there. Glee is just more clever and less original. i can't stand the show but i'm glad it is getting messages out that need to be addressed. i was blown away by Kurts dad's speech a couple episodes ago.

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#12

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Posted: 6/2/10 at 11:34am

"When HSM came out everyone was so pumped and into it nobody stopped to realize how terrible it was."

UMMM...I guess I can't speak for anyone else, but I IMMEDIATELY loathed how horrible HSM was. It was LAUGHABLE. And I *loved* it. That is, I *loved* to hate it! I played many a great drinking game to that movie.

#13

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Posted: 6/2/10 at 11:39am

I think the storytelling device of a Glee theme of the week is going to grow old real fast (already old for me), it's such a gimmicky device. It drives me nuts how they feel the need to repeat the title of the episode (which is always the Glee assignment) every 5 minutes (seriously, how many times do people really say words like "funk" or "theatricality" in a sentence?) I agree that the writing can be cringing and yet there are real moments of brilliance and the numbers are terrific. The problem is sometimes the dialogue, characters, situations etc just seem like an excuse to get from number to number (kinda like a jukebox musical), this was definitely the case last night where absolutely nothing happened. I agree it's going to be a 2-3 season hit, then the novelty will wear thin.

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Posted: 6/2/10 at 11:45am

"The thing is if they don't win then the program loses its funding and there isn't a next season."

They can always find a way around that.

ray, the whole usage of the word funk last night slightly annoyed me. And it does get a little old when they do that.

HSM was campy and aimed at young kids. I found a lot of adults, including myself, got into them because of the children in our lives that were obsessed with them. They were fine but I wouldn't seek them out to watch again.

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Posted: 6/2/10 at 11:49am

I suspect Murphy had no real plan beyond the first set of episodes - the Road to Sectionals. It had a perfect ending with character resolutions and was very satisfactory.

I completely agree. They wrapped up the mid-season finale very neatly (just in case), which I was grateful for since many shows don't do that. Like most everything, the hype will settle down. It may take another season or two, but it will happen eventually. For now, I'm curious to see where they take the story lines since they KNOW they have a hit, and at least 2 more seasons, on their hands.

Updated On: 6/2/10 at 11:49 AM

#16

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Posted: 6/2/10 at 11:53am

The decision is that if they PLACE at regionals, they keep the club.

#17

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Posted: 6/2/10 at 12:05pm

Oh I wish I faded as fast and as hard as Wicked has!

#18

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Posted: 6/2/10 at 12:41pm

I think they've planned on at least a few years (obviously not plot-wise though). The mention of Finn being 16 (!!!!!) not only made me laugh out loud, but establishes him probably being a sophomore (!!!!!!)

That's how they'll try to squeeze at least 3 or so years with the same cast -- they'll still have junior and senior years to go as they introduce additional characters to eventually take over.

MY gut though is that it'll go 3 years tops.

#19

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Posted: 6/2/10 at 12:50pm

Yeah, I kind of went "What?" when he said he was 16 last night.

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#20

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Posted: 6/2/10 at 1:15pm

Wasn't Sabrina The Teenage Witch in high school for, like, 8 years? And why does each season have to be a year? Can't each season be a few months or so? Or it can even pull a The Simpsons and have the characters stay the same age for the entire run.
But yeah, I literally laughed out loud when Finn said he was 16, especially since he looks the same age as Mrs. Shuster.

#21

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Posted: 6/2/10 at 1:21pm

Didn't someone on here say that Ryan Murphy said in an interview that he was planning on having them never graduate? It's a plan that could work but I agree with everyone, it's ridiculous we're expected to believe Cory Monteith is 16, he's 28!

#22

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Posted: 6/2/10 at 1:23pm

Anyone who thinks they won't run this show for as long as they can, regardless of whether or not it seems ludicrous, has obviously never seen Nip/Tuck, creator Ryan Murphy's previous show.

Murphy tried EVERY trick in the book to make the dramedy long-running and always interesting- serial killer arcs, EVERY main character's sexuality being questionable at some point or another, long hallucination episodes, and multiple musical numbers.

#23

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Posted: 6/2/10 at 1:29pm

It's already been picked up for a third season, so we'll see at least through then: http://www.usmagazine.com/moviestvmusic/news/glee-picked-up-for-a-third-season-2010235.

And I think our perspective on GLEE is hardly the perspective of the millions who watch it week to week. Most people watch it because it's happy and simple, not because they're waiting for it to get better. And WICKED has done nothing but grow -- they started a second national tour! How can you say it's fading?

#24

GLEE's fate

Posted: 6/2/10 at 1:37pm

I think GLEE lasitng three seasons is not about the show, but more about the fickle nature of viewers and teens as of late. Very well made, successful shows sometimes barely make it past a few seasons anymore.

Also, I have to agree that GLEE is not only burning the candle at both ends, they are also burning it at the middle. Much like how's Grey's Anatomy exploded, it does impact the quality of the show and the happiness of the actors. I think we will start hearing reports of actor unhappiness any day now. We already have.

GLEE is like fast food and it is overexposed. They leak the song clips before the show airs, they give away all the surprise guests, and plot points before the episode has even aired.

I never bothered to tune it because I know that anything I need to see song-wise or scene wise will be online, so why waste my time.

As I said in previous threads, I'm waitng for the E! True Hollywood Story "GLEE" where the kids dish all the dirt about drugs and orgies.

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#25

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Posted: 6/2/10 at 1:47pm

"Wasn't Sabrina The Teenage Witch in high school for, like, 8 years? Or it can even pull a The Simpsons and have the characters stay the same age for the entire run."

Wow.

STTW was a crappy show that no one but kids watched. No one cared.

And The Simpsons are animated, so they are unable to age like a human does.

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