I find it quite funny how Glee claims to be a show about tolerance and breaking stereotypes, and yet all it does is marginalize the characters at every turn- Merecedes is defined by nothing but her ability to be "sassy" and sing well, Kurt is shallow, flamboyant, and bitchy, and Rachel is always in front, no matter how much she whines or how horrible she acts to every other character on the show.
This sort of narrow mindedness is evidenced by the fact that Mercedes consistently sings material from DREAMGIRLS and Rachel consistently (and horribly) sings anything and everything Barbra Streisand's ever recorded. Glee doesn't think outside the box. It is the box.
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/28/11
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I agree (except that I think Lea Michelle does a great job of making Streisand material her own even while being made to sing Streisand's arrangements).
Was I the only one bothered last year by the episode in which Rachel admitted that Mercedes is just as talented, but doesn't work very hard--and Mercedes agreed?
'Cause like we all know black people are lazy, even though they somehow managed to build this country for 400 years without being paid a dime!
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
^^^ "Glee doesn't think outside the box."
It's Mr. Schu's fault. Any teacher worth their pay would push the students to get out of their comfort zones and sing other material.
If Rachel, Kurt and Mercedes were normal students, they would not be singing Barbra, Aretha and Patti all the time. A teacher would make them sing ThreePenny Opera, Porgy & Bess or soemthing else. No wonder they never win Nationals.
A teacher would make them sing ThreePenny Opera, Porgy & Bess or soemthing else.
LOL.
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/28/11
Yeah, I went to a high school with not just a show choir, but a performing arts program. I had to sing "I Got Plenty of Nothin'" in voice lessons (which tells you everything you need to know about my vocal abilities).
But otherwise, not a lot of PORGY AND BESS or Brecht.
That being said, I think the poster's point was that a good teacher would make the kids stretch and not just sing the same songs as their favorite performer. I agree.
Updated On: 9/30/11 at 05:14 PM
Tune in next week for Rachel's impassioned rendition of "The Ballad of Sexual Dependancy"!
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/27/05
Real show choirs also have different vocal parts: soprano, alto, tenor, baritone/bass. It wouldn't just be everyone belting.
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/28/11
If only, AC, if only! The funny part is Lea Michelle would probably kill with it.
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
Kurt's "Barbara Song," though, will be quite lovely.
I thought Kurt was doing Lucy's Aria!
Broadway Legend Joined: 9/16/07
Please, a dude's already done that one.
Broadway Legend Joined: 5/20/03
Mercedes could do Pirate Jenny, Kurt could do Mack the Knife. If they can sing Sondheim, they can sing Weil.
The Song of the Great Capitulation as their group number at sectionals!
Broadway Legend Joined: 6/28/11
They already did "Mack the Knife" on THE GLEE PROJECT.
No. Never again. (And the kid who sang it actually won.)
Leading Actor Joined: 5/20/11
I heard the spring musical is going to be Lost In the Stars with Rachel as Stephen Kumalo.
That makes sense. Mr. Shue is all about taking chances.
"Mr. Shue was supposed to love me!" WHAT?!?!
FAIL!
I'm starting to hate "Glee." At first, I found it cute and funny. Now, it makes me want to roll my wheelchair down a few (two max) steps.
Understudy Joined: 8/16/11
Mr. Murphy surely has missed a golden opportunity to further make whatever statement he is trying to make. Wasn't Alex, a runner-up and cross-dresser on THE GLEE PROJECT, awarded a guest slot on the series? What better way to assimilate him into the mix than to let him sing Effie in the "Dreamgirls" segment? He certainly has the voice, figure, and where-with-all to pull it off...Are you sure that IS Mercedes?
AMEN DCROCKS!...jeez you so-called Broadway lovers...let's see the show first then jump in...right?...of course right!...
(and isn't any media that brings Broadway into millions of American homes better than not?)
All of the comments are talking about the song. It's released as a single and therefore open to judgment.
I doubt whatever context it's placed in will vindicate it.
I'm really afraid to listen to this based on the description by y'all, even though the opinions were totally off on that "Something's Coming" cover.
Does it feature that one dudette that sang "Don't Cry For Me Argentina," which was supposed to be reference to some bullying, or something? Sorry, I hardly know this TV show.
Broadway Legend Joined: 7/27/05
Yeah, he sings Lorell's part.
I think "Don't Cry for Me, Argentina" was supposed to be his audition song for the Warblers.
Dear God, this obsessive Glee hate is getting sooooooo tiring on this board ! Is anybody forcing anyone to watch the show or listen to its songs ??? It's a TV SHOW for crying out loud, ignore it if you hate it and get it over with ! Whenever I don't like something, I simply don't care about it. I certainly don't flood message boards whining about it...
At the very least, YES it acknowledges Broadway, YES it is stressing ARTS in school importance and YES, it presents teenage gays ! Even if it's done horribly according to some, would you really want another police procedural or reality show in its place ???
"Even if it's done horribly according to some, would you really want another police procedural or reality show in its place ???"
Yes, actually. And if THEY were done horribly, I'd want something else in THEIR place. Or better yet, how about a show that focuses on the arts in schools (that make people want to support it), gay teens (that don't make gay people like myself want to actually gay bash the characters), acknowledges Broadway (without turning it into an autotuned nonsensical joke) that's actually DONE WELL.
I understand what you're saying Jordan, I really do. And although I admit I love the show I can fully respect the opinion of others who hate it. But, all of us here, have VERY different standards and demands than the average TV viewers. I think that 90% of the general public don't even know what Auto-Tune is. I had many friends who didn't bother about musicals, asking me info about this or that show, just because they liked it in Glee. And as much as Colfer annoys me too, I hear people who were borderline homophobic, warming up and loving his character. Could it be done better ? Sure ! But any show that brings forth and center the theme of gay-bullying and actually makes a gay teenage couple one of the most beloved romantic couples in prime-time TV, gets my vote ! But as I said, I respect everyone's opinion. It's just that I don't understand why every other day, we must have a Glee-bashing thread on the MAIN board !
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