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#26

Great Musicals with So-So Music?

I like the Forum score a lot, it gives the audience a moment to collect itself and it's also perfectly mid-60s in a really sweet sort of way.

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Great Musicals with So-So Music?

jonartdesigns said: "I'm going to catch hell for this. I have to say Fun Home. There are a handful of very memorable songs, but the rest feels more like a play with music. "

Hm, I agree that the show really does feel like a play with music but I think basically all of the songs are great songs and that each one feels essential to the story (I even wish Al for Short was still in the show). There aren't nearly as many songs as in most musicals.


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#28

Great Musicals with So-So Music?

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#29

Great Musicals with So-So Music?

jonartdesigns said: "I'm going to catch hell for this.

I have to say Fun Home. There are a handful of very memorable songs, but the rest feels more like a play with music. "

Add me to the list. Maps barely moves me, Welcome to our House on Maple is my favorite of the bunch, but Ring of Keys and Changing my Major just don't work for me. Most of it seems like it is filler, and due to the numerous of songs, it pains me so.


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#30

Great Musicals with So-So Music?

I feel like I'd like the music in Fun Home more if the (album) performances were earthier, but I think the obsessive cleanliness of modern recordings really damages a lot of could-be-great music.

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Great Musicals with So-So Music?

I'll side on the side of Forum lovers. Not so much with Fun Home, Spelling Bee, and - yikes - Spring Awakening. Also, except for Joseph and JCS, most ALW is nails on the chalkboard for me.

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Great Musicals with So-So Music?

Funny, I was going to say that for me it's always all about the music, and if the songs are dull then the most brilliant book in the world can't save it. But then several people mentioned 1776, and I realized that might be the exception. I find the score weak (and unevenly distributed), but it still makes for a great evening of theater. Another one might be A Gentleman's Guide, but that could be due entirely to the spectacular performance by Jefferson Mays.

On the other hand, I'll happily watch the silliest stuff if the songs and the performances are great (e.g., 42nd Street).

#33

Great Musicals with So-So Music?

I agree that Billy Elliot has a very bland and mediocre score, but it's considered a huge triumph of a musical. Next to Normal rightfully won Best Score that year.

Updated On: 12/23/15 at 12:33 AM

#34

Great Musicals with So-So Music?

Liked John's score for Lestat and that will never even see the light of day. It currently resides on Broadway Cast Album Boot Hill. What a pity.


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Great Musicals with So-So Music?

I agree with others who have said Billy Elliot. I love the show as a whole and there are a couple of really effective songs (mainly "Solidarity" and "Electricity"Great Musicals with So-So Music?, but the score is absolutely the weakest part of the show. It certainly isn't bad, just not particularly exciting. Next to Normal deserved the Tony for score that year, but Billy deserved its best musical win.

Updated On: 12/23/15 at 12:46 AM

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Peter2 said: "Funny, I was going to say that for me it's always all about the music, and if the songs are dull then the most brilliant book in the world can't save it. But then several people mentioned 1776, and I realized that might be the exception. I find the score weak (and unevenly distributed), but it still makes for a great evening of theater. Another one might be A Gentleman's Guide, but that could be due entirely to the spectacular performance by Jefferson Mays.

On the other hand, I'll happily watch the silliest stuff if the songs and the performances are great (e.g., 42nd Street).

I have to second Peter2 here. These were the two i was going to talk about. both shows wer fantastic, and I never listen to cast recordings of either and when i do, im not moved. I also thought fun home was spectacular and moving live, and doesn't translate very well as a cast recording

#37

Great Musicals with So-So Music?

Imma get crap for this but I've always thought the score of My Fair Lady wasn't up to par with the book.

#38

Great Musicals with So-So Music?

Disagree but you are entitled to your opinion.It is a superb score but it is up to an individuals taste.


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#39

Great Musicals with So-So Music?

Agree about Forum.

Certain songs stop it dead in its tracks.

The music really needs the pace and patter of Into the Woods's farce-ness.

Comedy Tonight and Lovely reprise are the only ones that have ever really worked for me.

It would be interesting to see it just performed with no music, as just a straight farce play cause it is so hysterically funny.

#40

Great Musicals with So-So Music?

Strongly agree with Billy Elliot, while the book and story itself are absolutely incredible, this is a prime example of a musical where the score is not the prime draw to the show itself.

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Great Musicals with So-So Music?

Re Forum

The movie almost constitutes a non musical as the few numbers that survive are mere fillers and the slapstick is the big part of it. I would not agree that the Maid number stopped the action. The score is not top drawer Sondheim but it is still a fun score. I compare him to Woody Allen. Both started with fun stuff (Whistle & ,Forum for Sondheim ) before going on to serious stuff.


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#42

Great Musicals with So-So Music?

Like many have said, Billy Elliot. Marvelous, marvelous musical, but I dont feel the same about the cast recording. In fact, I never listen to it, while I absolutely love the show and the dvd (so glad they released it!).

I also love Once and Violet, but those are two musicals I almost never listen to. They work onstage just fine, but they're not something I like to listen to as a whole (I only listen to one song from Once and three or four from Violet in the very rare occasions I listen to their cast recordings).

Updated On: 12/23/15 at 09:56 PM

#43

Great Musicals with So-So Music?

I have two more to add.

i have never particularly liked the score to How To Succeed, although I do like some of the songs. It seems very dated to me to the point where I never listen to any of the cast albums. (I have to admit that How to Succeed having a Pulitzer amazes me, although I really enjoy the premise of the show and the book in particular.

Also, I loved Grand Hotel, but I cannot even listen to the OCR. While a few of the songs are very good, I really can't stand a number of them. I don't necessary think it is a great musical, but the staging is great and the entire look of the show is up there.

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Great Musicals with So-So Music?

"The Book of Mormon" is, in my view, a great musical, but most of the score is forgettable -- it's the book, lyrics, and performances that make the show. I won't quickly forget the translation of "Hasa Diga Eboway" or the line, "I have maggots in my scrotum," but the music itself, for me, is NOT the key to the show.

While not a "great" show, "Something Rotten" is terrific -- but once again, it's the clever premise, the humor, the wordplay, the dancing, and the satire that make it terrific. The music is forgettable, except that it consists largely of songs that would violate copyright except that the music parodies the originals.


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#45

Great Musicals with So-So Music?

Rent. I listened to the OBCR several times before seeing it (I had a boyfriend who was an obsessed Renthead) and never liked it. Then I saw the show, and thought it was brilliant. Now I like the music, but still think it's mostly so-so, and the show's weakest element.

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Great Musicals with So-So Music?

Fun Home and Grey Gardens. I think both shows are incredible, even groundbreaking, however, I don't feel the music is the most listenable. Their narrative and character depiction, on the other hand, are incredible.

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Great Musicals with So-So Music?

I agree with Next to Normal. Love the performances and the book but the score is the weakest link.

Also agree with Billy Elliot.

Has anyone mentioned Kinky Boots?

And despite a few great songs, Funny Girl always seemed like a lesser Styne score to me.


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#48

Great Musicals with So-So Music?

I don't think Fun Home has a weak score, I think it just has an incredibly strong book, and that's why it feels like a "play with music"

I've never liked the score for Promises, Promises much but I find it to be a fun show.

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Great Musicals with So-So Music?

The issue with BILLY ELLIOT is the original film: the interpolated songs are all levels above what was freshly composed. When you go back and watch it, you realize how electric those songs were. The score feels pale in comparison. It tries to capture the feel, but it's just not as compelling. And I like John's score for AIDA, as power-ballad heavy as it was. It felt a more natural fit for his musical lexicon.

I'd argue that FUN HOME is a demanding score, one that comes at the story in more muted ways. Take out the two upbeat numbers (the Partridge parody and the title song) and it's a chamber musical. It took me a while to fully understand Tesori's approach. Now, I think it's masterful. I attribute the appreciation gap between first hearing to my full embrace to my ear's lapse, not the score's.


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Great Musicals with So-So Music?

Even the filler songs to My Fair Lady were special. "On the Street Where You Live" and "Show Me." Julie Andrews must have loved Show Me because she sang it so often in concerts and on TV specials.

I had low expectations for 1776 because the score was completely unfamiliar to me. My weakness. I could see why most of the music wouldn't work outside of the context of the show, and frankly weren't long on melody, but in the show they just worked. Very clever lyrics.

Hello Dolly. Agree that not much was memorable outside of the title song, but what a title song. For those who don't go back that far, which is most, Louis Armstrong's single hit the Top 40 stations right in the teeth of Beatlemania and took over the number one spot from a 14 week domination by the Beatles. His "Hello Dolly" was the third most popular hit of 1964 after "She Loves You" and "I Want to Hold Your Hand."

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