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#1

Hell's Kitchen has Shubert theatre

It hasn't been announced to the public yet - but cast has been told they are going to BROADWAY

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#2

Hell's Kitchen has Shubert theatre

The Shubert feels completely wrong for this show. Too big. This seems more like a Barrymore, Broadhurst, Jacobs, or Schoenfeld show in my opinion... Guess they're just taking what's available.


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#3

Hell's Kitchen has Shubert theatre

bwayphreak234 said: "The Shubert feels completely wrong for this show. Too big. This seems more like a Barrymore, Broadhurst, Jacobs, or Schoenfeld show in my opinion... Guess they're just taking what's available."

I mean… the Barrymore and or Schoenfeld COULD be empty this come spring


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#4

Hell's Kitchen has Shubert theatre

Realistically, the "right" show for the Shubert is the one that can sell it out, and, out of all the shows on the horizon, Hell's Kitchen is the one that has the best chance of doing that, in my opinion.

#5

Hell's Kitchen has Shubert theatre

The Notebook is taking the Schoenfeld in the Spring. If Harmony doesn't do well, then maybe put it in the Barrymore.


The idea is to work and to experiment. Some things will be creatively successful, some things will succeed at the box office, and some things will only - which is the biggest only - teach you things that see the future. And they're probably as valuable as any of your successes. -Harold Prince
#7

Hell's Kitchen has Shubert theatre

Perhaps, A Beautiful Noise announces closing and Hells Kitchen takes the Broadhurst.

#8

Hell's Kitchen has Shubert theatre

How big is the physical production? I wonder less about whether it can fill the seats, because I think it probably can, and more about how it will look on such a large stage.

#10

Hell's Kitchen has Shubert theatre

It's supposedly the "hot show" of the season, so makes sense to put it in your flagship theater.

#11

Hell's Kitchen has Shubert theatre

ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "The difference in stage size is a matter of inches for the Shubert compared to something like the Music Box or Schoenfeld (at least for what the audience sees).

https://shubert.nyc/theatres/shubert/

https://shubert.nyc/theatres/music-box/

https://shubert.nyc/theatres/gerald-schoenfeld/
"

Well said!


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#12

Hell's Kitchen has Shubert theatre

TaffyDavenport said: "Realistically, the "right" show for the Shubert is the one that can sell it out, and, out of all the shows on the horizon, Hell's Kitchen is the one that has the best chance of doing that, in my opinion."

Taffy is right!


"People have their opinions and that doesn't mean that their opinions are wrong or right. I just take it with a grain of salt because opinions are like as*holes, everyone has one". -Felicia Finley-
#13

Hell's Kitchen has Shubert theatre

The current staging is not that large, it can't physically be in the Newman, but I can easily see how it will scale as it's a lot of scaffolding and projections. If they're taking the Shubert, they'll need to add on considerably, particularly vertically, but the basic design will work fine.

That said, with these reviews (and my own experience of the show), I just don't know why they'd transfer immediately. They've got enough brand to open in the fall after they've done some work, and things will then be much calmer. Half of this season's new musicals will have closed, and they'll have a much clearer lane to the Tonys as it's extremely unlikely next season will have nearly as many openings. Hopefully, they'd have a better show as well!

Updated On: 11/27/23 at 11:09 AM

#14

Hell's Kitchen has Shubert theatre

Thanks for this! So interesting-it appears much bigger due to the house capacity, I guess. Astonishing to see the difference between this and something like the Broadway’s dimensions.

#15

Hell's Kitchen has Shubert theatre

The main difference for the Shubert is the available wing space that the other houses mentioned don't have as much of. This doesn't feel like a show that would require that much wing space. It's not Hello Dolly, for instance.

Does seem like a better economical choice would be to keep a tighter ticket which proved successful at The Public, but I'd agree this and The Notebook are really the only new musicals coming in with any level of familiarity with the material, so they're better primed than others that are starting in the Spring.

#17

Hell's Kitchen has Shubert theatre

Is OLD FRIENDS actually coming in? There were previously rumors (on here) that Wonderful World was also coming to Broadway but not a peep since Chicago.

#18

Hell's Kitchen has Shubert theatre

ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "Is OLD FRIENDS actually coming in? There were previously rumors (on here) that Wonderful World was also coming to Broadway but not a peep since Chicago."

Wonderful World is aiming for Fall 2024 (overheard this conversation that included one of the show's producers)

#19

Hell's Kitchen has Shubert theatre

ErmengardeStopSniveling said: "Is OLD FRIENDS actually coming in? There were previously rumors (on here) that Wonderful World was also coming to Broadway but not a peep since Chicago."

I have friends in the UK that have heard that Old Friends is indeed coming in the Spring with Bernadette and Lea along with an all-American cast.


The idea is to work and to experiment. Some things will be creatively successful, some things will succeed at the box office, and some things will only - which is the biggest only - teach you things that see the future. And they're probably as valuable as any of your successes. -Harold Prince
#20

Hell's Kitchen has Shubert theatre

Keeping a tighter ticket is fine, but show's also run out of steam after a while. It's better to pack them in while people are interested.

#21

Hell's Kitchen has Shubert theatre

There's a lot of people in this biz who believe "if you can sell out 1,000 tix a night (in a smaller playhouse), you should be able to sell out 1400 tix a night (in the Shubert or Imperial)." The issue is budgeting: it's hard to make the numbers work for a decent-sized musical when there are 1000 seats or less. And a smaller house makes things more manageable if a show ISN'T selling out.

The divide is much greater when comparing a 1700 seat house (like the St. James) to a 1000 seat house (like Studio 54), which are really apples & oranges. I think a lot of producers would like a few more houses in the Nederlander/August Wilson/Richard Rodgers size range (1200-1400 seats).

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