Hillary's response to George Takei's invitation

[Dancingthrulife2]

Posted: 1/24/16 at 1:29am

Any thoughts?

[binau]

Posted: 1/24/16 at 1:52am

It's a lovely letter. However, I am very disappointed that George Takei endorses Hillary Clinton and not Bernie Sanders. Less than 3 years ago Hillary wouldn't have even supported his marriage?

Updated On: 1/24/16 at 01:52 AM

[Sally Durant Plummer]

Posted: 1/24/16 at 2:10am

Could someone please post a link - for some reason can't find anything using google.

[Anakela]

Posted: 1/24/16 at 2:22am

https://twitter.com/georgetakei/status/690928752696565762

[Sally Durant Plummer]

Posted: 1/24/16 at 2:25am

Thanks!

[Tag]

Posted: 1/24/16 at 2:35am

His consistent shilling of his show through these political PR grabs is getting tiresome.

[Scarywarhol]

Posted: 1/24/16 at 10:21am

*An intern's response to George Takei's invitation. 

 

Did anyone see that statement from one of the producer-writers about how the problem isn't the show, it's getting people to think it's something they want to see?  You know, because all successful shows are so light and breezy. The level of self-delusion that has surrounded this project since the beginning is genuinely tragic. 

[Scarywarhol]

Posted: 1/24/16 at 10:21am

and seriously, George, if you enjoy being married to another man, Hillary is not someone to admire. 

Updated On: 1/24/16 at 10:21 AM

[Lavieboheme3090]

Posted: 1/24/16 at 11:16am

Using that logic I guess as a man who wants to marry a man I can't admire Obama either, because he didn't support gay marriage until after he was was elected a second time. 

[muscle23ftl]

Posted: 1/24/16 at 11:32am

Hillary has been a supporter of gay rights for many many years. Please be informed before posting if you're in another country. Thanks! I'm a supporter of Bernie and Hillary both, but get your facts right.

[Scarywarhol]

Posted: 1/24/16 at 11:36am

No, she has not been. Like virtually all other social issues, she has come around once it is politically expedient to do so. Her sudden epiphany reversing her long-stated stance that "marriage is not just a bond, but a sacred bond between a man and a woman...going back into the mists of history" happened once it was more than clear who the winning team would be. Not looking to start in on this kind of discussion on the main board.

Updated On: 1/24/16 at 11:36 AM

[BroadwayFan12]

Posted: 1/24/16 at 12:00pm

I believe her support for LGBT rights is sincere, but I'm Team Bernie.

[whatever2]

Posted: 1/24/16 at 1:47pm

while i generally think it's both unwise and off-topic to discuss politics on these boards, this must be said:

Bernie Sanders will not win the Electoral College; he is a self-described socialist, and the right-wing money that controls our nation's political discourse will pummel him with his own words. they will pour billions of unregulated dollars into media buys in the five to seven states that decide the Electoral math, and they will defeat him in those states. those of us who live in our comfortable Blue echo chambers won't even know it's happening (because we won't see the ads in our local markets).

my own political views are a lot closer to Bernie's than Hilary's, but I understand fully that nominating Sanders guarantees the Republicans the White House next year -- preventing that is far more important to me than how late Hilary was to the marriage equality party.

[CindersGolightly]

Posted: 1/24/16 at 2:48pm

Scarywarhol said: "*An intern's response to George Takei's invitation."

 

However, if Bernie had responded, it would be 100% totally him, no doubt. Right?

[Pootie2]

Posted: 1/24/16 at 4:06pm

I'm with whatever2 on this and also believe it's fine if political views change over time (Hillary Clinton was originally a Republican, after all), but to swing it back to Allegiance... I thought Takei's Trump Watch was amusing at first and a clever dig for additional visibility, but it was clear that a closing show on Broadway barely registered at all in Trump's control over the media waves. Besides the fact that Takei never tagged Trump directly, the constancy started to feel very sadly desperate. That Hillary Clinton did release a formal response was very nice, but ultimately it doesn't matter--for anyone involved with the show or for her political aspirations.

[Cupid Boy2]

Posted: 1/24/16 at 4:38pm

I won't speak to Sanders' electability, but I too have trouble believing Hillary's all that sincere. I'm definitely with Scarywarhol on that. For those claiming she's supported LGBT rights for many many years, check out this clip from 2004: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I1-r1YgK9I

[Scarywarhol]

Posted: 1/24/16 at 4:40pm

CindersGolightly said: "Scarywarhol said: "*An intern's response to George Takei's invitation."

 

 

 

However, if Bernie had responded, it would be 100% totally him, no doubt. Right?

 

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Oh, I don't mean to imply that. As an intern, I fabricated rote responses for some pretty low-level theater professionals. I can't imagine any presidential candidate would take time out to respond to an invite to a closing Broadway show, or would even be aware of it. 

[VintageSnarker]

Posted: 1/24/16 at 4:42pm

At least from that tweet he doesn't "endorse" her. He said he invited many candidates and she (or her proxy) was the only one who bothered even sending a response. Whoever wrote it, it is a lovely note.

[RaiseYouUp]

Posted: 1/24/16 at 4:56pm

qolbinau said: "It's a lovely letter. However, I am very disappointed that George Takei endorses Hillary Clinton and not Bernie Sanders. Less than 3 years ago Hillary wouldn't have even supported his marriage?"

Less than 3 years ago? Did Hillary not make a "gay rights are human rights" speech 4 years ago in Switzerland?

 

[BroadwayFan12]

Posted: 1/24/16 at 6:57pm

Amen, whatever2.

[binau]

Posted: 1/24/16 at 7:28pm

My understanding is that Hillary did not publicly endorse gay marriage until 2013. 

[GavestonPS]

Posted: 1/24/16 at 7:28pm

I don't think either Clinton has ever been willing to step out too far in front of popular opinion on gay rights.

 

But based on her treatment of two former students of mine who are now married and know the Clintons personally, I think her current support for gay rights is sincere. That she is a practical politician willing to set personal feelings aside when it is politically expedient should surprise nobody. Doesn't her own campaign basically say that is why she will be more effective than Sanders?

 

[undercoverusher]

Posted: 1/25/16 at 4:08pm

I honestly think the musical is good theater, however without and beyond a shoadow of a doubt the politics and the taunting of Trump hurt the show's box office. Keep in mind the Broadway audience is not all New York City leftists. Many Americans  admire Trump for several reasons, and Takai as well intentioned as he is, has taken Trump out of context repeatedy. Trump has only called for a short suspension of Muslim immigration, not labor camps and not forever banning Muslims. Keep in mind Trump and Takai are friends and Takai was "fired" on Trump's TV show in 2011

[undercoverusher]

Posted: 1/25/16 at 4:26pm

The attack Trump gimmick has been a failure. "Alligance is the show Trump doesen't want you to see", I don't think it was a wise way to market the show. Most people on vacation going to a Broadway show are not thinking about politics, they want to see a good show. And they also fail to understand millions of people support Trump, including many Democrats and independent voters. The entire nation is not the Upper West Side of NYC, millionaires who are far left Marxists. Most Americans are Middle of the road, worknig class people, and do not look at Trump as a villian 

Updated On: 1/25/16 at 04:26 PM

[kdogg36]

Posted: 1/25/16 at 5:09pm

Using that logic I guess as a man who wants to marry a man I can't admire Obama either, because he didn't support gay marriage until after he was was elected a second time. 

 

Just for the record, it was before the election, in May of 2012. Still disgustingly late, of course.