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#126

re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?

Posted: 8/22/05 at 5:00am

Wait! I'm not done...

"Sidelining or erasing of gay male affection is the classical modus operandum of libido liberals. The RENT trailer sounded the alarm and now I'm posing the question: has Chris Columbus stayed true to the male-male kisses in the stage production or not? It's a yes or no question...no ifs, no buts.

As for audience-testing of RENT, God help us. They'll have Ma and Pa Kettle in there groaning at anything that hints at male-male affection. Pass me the smelling salts for the upcoming debacle."
"Do you know what pledge time is, Andrew"? said the PBS Executive. "Yes", Lloyd Webber replied. "My 50th birthday special must be one program that gets done a lot." "No", mused the man from PBS heedlessy. "Not so much. Our Stephen Sondheim Carnegie Hall concert. That's a big one." Spoons, forks and knives seemed suddenly to suspend their motion in horror, all around the table.
#127

re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?

Posted: 8/22/05 at 5:00am

Wait! I'm not done...

"Sidelining or erasing of gay male affection is the classical modus operandum of libido liberals. The RENT trailer sounded the alarm and now I'm posing the question: has Chris Columbus stayed true to the male-male kisses in the stage production or not? It's a yes or no question...no ifs, no buts.

As for audience-testing of RENT, God help us. They'll have Ma and Pa Kettle in there groaning at anything that hints at male-male affection. Pass me the smelling salts for the upcoming debacle."
"Do you know what pledge time is, Andrew"? said the PBS Executive. "Yes", Lloyd Webber replied. "My 50th birthday special must be one program that gets done a lot." "No", mused the man from PBS heedlessy. "Not so much. Our Stephen Sondheim Carnegie Hall concert. That's a big one." Spoons, forks and knives seemed suddenly to suspend their motion in horror, all around the table.
#128

re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?

Posted: 8/22/05 at 5:00am

Wait! I'm not done...

"Sidelining or erasing of gay male affection is the classical modus operandum of libido liberals. The RENT trailer sounded the alarm and now I'm posing the question: has Chris Columbus stayed true to the male-male kisses in the stage production or not? It's a yes or no question...no ifs, no buts.

As for audience-testing of RENT, God help us. They'll have Ma and Pa Kettle in there groaning at anything that hints at male-male affection. Pass me the smelling salts for the upcoming debacle."
"Do you know what pledge time is, Andrew"? said the PBS Executive. "Yes", Lloyd Webber replied. "My 50th birthday special must be one program that gets done a lot." "No", mused the man from PBS heedlessy. "Not so much. Our Stephen Sondheim Carnegie Hall concert. That's a big one." Spoons, forks and knives seemed suddenly to suspend their motion in horror, all around the table.
#129

re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?

Posted: 8/22/05 at 5:00am

Wait! I'm not done...

"Sidelining or erasing of gay male affection is the classical modus operandum of libido liberals. The RENT trailer sounded the alarm and now I'm posing the question: has Chris Columbus stayed true to the male-male kisses in the stage production or not? It's a yes or no question...no ifs, no buts.

As for audience-testing of RENT, God help us. They'll have Ma and Pa Kettle in there groaning at anything that hints at male-male affection. Pass me the smelling salts for the upcoming debacle."
"Do you know what pledge time is, Andrew"? said the PBS Executive. "Yes", Lloyd Webber replied. "My 50th birthday special must be one program that gets done a lot." "No", mused the man from PBS heedlessy. "Not so much. Our Stephen Sondheim Carnegie Hall concert. That's a big one." Spoons, forks and knives seemed suddenly to suspend their motion in horror, all around the table.
#130

re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?

Posted: 8/22/05 at 5:00am

Wait! I'm not done...

"Sidelining or erasing of gay male affection is the classical modus operandum of libido liberals. The RENT trailer sounded the alarm and now I'm posing the question: has Chris Columbus stayed true to the male-male kisses in the stage production or not? It's a yes or no question...no ifs, no buts.

As for audience-testing of RENT, God help us. They'll have Ma and Pa Kettle in there groaning at anything that hints at male-male affection. Pass me the smelling salts for the upcoming debacle."
"Do you know what pledge time is, Andrew"? said the PBS Executive. "Yes", Lloyd Webber replied. "My 50th birthday special must be one program that gets done a lot." "No", mused the man from PBS heedlessy. "Not so much. Our Stephen Sondheim Carnegie Hall concert. That's a big one." Spoons, forks and knives seemed suddenly to suspend their motion in horror, all around the table.
#131

re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?

Posted: 8/22/05 at 5:00am

Wait! I'm not done...

"Sidelining or erasing of gay male affection is the classical modus operandum of libido liberals. The RENT trailer sounded the alarm and now I'm posing the question: has Chris Columbus stayed true to the male-male kisses in the stage production or not? It's a yes or no question...no ifs, no buts.

As for audience-testing of RENT, God help us. They'll have Ma and Pa Kettle in there groaning at anything that hints at male-male affection. Pass me the smelling salts for the upcoming debacle."
"Do you know what pledge time is, Andrew"? said the PBS Executive. "Yes", Lloyd Webber replied. "My 50th birthday special must be one program that gets done a lot." "No", mused the man from PBS heedlessy. "Not so much. Our Stephen Sondheim Carnegie Hall concert. That's a big one." Spoons, forks and knives seemed suddenly to suspend their motion in horror, all around the table.
#132

re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?

Posted: 8/22/05 at 5:00am

Wait! I'm not done...

"Sidelining or erasing of gay male affection is the classical modus operandum of libido liberals. The RENT trailer sounded the alarm and now I'm posing the question: has Chris Columbus stayed true to the male-male kisses in the stage production or not? It's a yes or no question...no ifs, no buts.

As for audience-testing of RENT, God help us. They'll have Ma and Pa Kettle in there groaning at anything that hints at male-male affection. Pass me the smelling salts for the upcoming debacle."
"Do you know what pledge time is, Andrew"? said the PBS Executive. "Yes", Lloyd Webber replied. "My 50th birthday special must be one program that gets done a lot." "No", mused the man from PBS heedlessy. "Not so much. Our Stephen Sondheim Carnegie Hall concert. That's a big one." Spoons, forks and knives seemed suddenly to suspend their motion in horror, all around the table.
#133

re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?

Posted: 8/22/05 at 5:00am

Wait! I'm not done...

"Sidelining or erasing of gay male affection is the classical modus operandum of libido liberals. The RENT trailer sounded the alarm and now I'm posing the question: has Chris Columbus stayed true to the male-male kisses in the stage production or not? It's a yes or no question...no ifs, no buts.

As for audience-testing of RENT, God help us. They'll have Ma and Pa Kettle in there groaning at anything that hints at male-male affection. Pass me the smelling salts for the upcoming debacle."
"Do you know what pledge time is, Andrew"? said the PBS Executive. "Yes", Lloyd Webber replied. "My 50th birthday special must be one program that gets done a lot." "No", mused the man from PBS heedlessy. "Not so much. Our Stephen Sondheim Carnegie Hall concert. That's a big one." Spoons, forks and knives seemed suddenly to suspend their motion in horror, all around the table.
#134

re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?

Posted: 8/22/05 at 5:00am

Wait! I'm not done...

"Sidelining or erasing of gay male affection is the classical modus operandum of libido liberals. The RENT trailer sounded the alarm and now I'm posing the question: has Chris Columbus stayed true to the male-male kisses in the stage production or not? It's a yes or no question...no ifs, no buts.

As for audience-testing of RENT, God help us. They'll have Ma and Pa Kettle in there groaning at anything that hints at male-male affection. Pass me the smelling salts for the upcoming debacle."
"Do you know what pledge time is, Andrew"? said the PBS Executive. "Yes", Lloyd Webber replied. "My 50th birthday special must be one program that gets done a lot." "No", mused the man from PBS heedlessy. "Not so much. Our Stephen Sondheim Carnegie Hall concert. That's a big one." Spoons, forks and knives seemed suddenly to suspend their motion in horror, all around the table.
#135

re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?

Posted: 8/22/05 at 5:00am

Wait! I'm not done...

"Sidelining or erasing of gay male affection is the classical modus operandum of libido liberals. The RENT trailer sounded the alarm and now I'm posing the question: has Chris Columbus stayed true to the male-male kisses in the stage production or not? It's a yes or no question...no ifs, no buts.

As for audience-testing of RENT, God help us. They'll have Ma and Pa Kettle in there groaning at anything that hints at male-male affection. Pass me the smelling salts for the upcoming debacle."
"Do you know what pledge time is, Andrew"? said the PBS Executive. "Yes", Lloyd Webber replied. "My 50th birthday special must be one program that gets done a lot." "No", mused the man from PBS heedlessy. "Not so much. Our Stephen Sondheim Carnegie Hall concert. That's a big one." Spoons, forks and knives seemed suddenly to suspend their motion in horror, all around the table.
#136

re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?

Posted: 8/22/05 at 5:02am

wow Justice, I didn't even know that was possible so quickly.

Pinguin, thanks I do what I can. *blush*

Justice, I thought of it more as novel with Sondheim leading the small band of auetuer composers into battle against Webber and Macintosh and the Capitalist Hordes.
Very easy read, and great information. Very far from Objective about much of anything, that trashing of Ave Q at the end was scathing.
I stand corrected, you are as vapid as they say.
#138

re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?

Posted: 8/22/05 at 5:07am

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Not for one persons opinion, but for all of ours, if you don't want to have a discussion then go host your own message board with the disclaimer that no one else's opinion will matter.

#139

re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?

Posted: 8/22/05 at 5:11am

sorry zanna, it's very late and I'm not thinking straight. I'm getting grumpy.

but in our defense, there was never anything to discuss in the first place :0)
-Anyone want to turn anarchist with me?

"Bless you and all who know you, oh wise and penguined one." ~YouWantItWhen????

Updated On: 8/22/05 at 05:11 AM

#140

re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?

Posted: 8/22/05 at 5:14am

I am actually interested in the topic and hope that the relationship between Angel and Collins in the movie is treated respectfully and takes into account the whole of it, including the physical. That does not seem to be Art's agenda here though, it is still unknown to me what that is, we haven't seen the movie. We didn't make the movie, the idol specualtion is a waste of energy.
I stand corrected, you are as vapid as they say.
#141

re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?

Posted: 8/22/05 at 5:14am

the fact that there are people discussing it shows that there is something to discuss, the conversation may be too soon because we can only speculate what will be in the movie, but i think it is fair to question "jonathan's vision" and what that means to the producers that aren't julie.


lets take a look at the other producers:
Lata Ryan; ex. producer, also produced Kicking and Screaming and others including Jurassic Park (she knows how to make $$)
Jeffery Seller; ex. producer, no other credits
Kevin McCullom; ex. producer, wony tony for ave q
Jane Rosenthal, producer, also pro. Meet the Fockers, etc

Updated On: 8/22/05 at 05:14 AM

#142

re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?

Posted: 8/22/05 at 5:17am

It's just hard for me to continue to discuss something when there is no possible evidence involved.

We can't be like, "well, I think in this scene Chris Columbus did this" or anything like that...'cause the movie is still in post-production!

It's just such a non-issue at this point...

**edit** and haven't we talked about these possible issues with the producers and "Jonathan's vision" to DEATH?
-Anyone want to turn anarchist with me?

"Bless you and all who know you, oh wise and penguined one." ~YouWantItWhen????

Updated On: 8/22/05 at 05:17 AM

#143

re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?

Posted: 8/22/05 at 5:20am

who was discussing? Art kept posting he wanted a yes or no does the movie show a male-male kiss.

A discussion of what may have been "Larson's vision" is much more interesting, while equally speculative. There is a good chance the movie has been "mainstreamed," I know I was very disappointed that Columbus got the job. There is not any evidence of this from the existing information, if anything it is being advertized as an "oscar bait" film, which would imply pushing the envelope and including all of the "taboo" subject matter.
I stand corrected, you are as vapid as they say.
#144

re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?

Posted: 8/22/05 at 5:22am

And this whole thread would have been much less annoying if we already didn't go through that accusatory thread with art2 the other day...I mean, what's art going to do if the movie isn't extremely homophobic?
-Anyone want to turn anarchist with me?

"Bless you and all who know you, oh wise and penguined one." ~YouWantItWhen????

Updated On: 8/22/05 at 05:22 AM

#145

re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?

Posted: 8/22/05 at 5:27am

I know some who will say it is automatically "homophobic" because one gay character dies of AIDS implying that is what should happen to the homosexual community, or that its racist because Collins quits his good job. and those things are true to the "vision"

This type of specualtion is tedious because, especially this early you can "support" any opinion.
I stand corrected, you are as vapid as they say.
#146

re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?

Posted: 8/22/05 at 5:30am

re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?

At a certain point, there's nothing more to discuss...so while I appreciate your sentiment, zannah, I prefer my angry penguin images :0)

::this is an expression of how I feel about art2's unfounded accusations::

Ok...I'm really going to bed this time!

-Anyone want to turn anarchist with me?

"Bless you and all who know you, oh wise and penguined one." ~YouWantItWhen????

Updated On: 8/22/05 at 05:30 AM

#147

re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?

Posted: 8/22/05 at 5:42am

Well said, zzannahk. As for pinguin, Justice etc, don't mistake my passion for delusion. I know exactly what I'm talking about. Perhaps you need a crash course in how Hollywood has consistently obliterated or downplayed gay male relationships, even when it's a historical fact. I see the RENT stage production as a historical fact. Downplaying the gay male relationship/affection would be tampering with the template, and I'm not going to stand for it. Chris Columbus, it's time for you to make your position clear on this.
#148

re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?

Posted: 8/22/05 at 5:46am

Art the way you display your passion is deluded.

As I said you may have legit concerns, but Columbus is not here. No one who has seen the movie YET is likely to be here, take your concerns expres them rationally and move on.
I stand corrected, you are as vapid as they say.
#149

re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?

Posted: 8/22/05 at 5:47am

AMEN.

**edit**

::pinguin and penguin high five each other, and then skip off into the distance::
-Anyone want to turn anarchist with me?

"Bless you and all who know you, oh wise and penguined one." ~YouWantItWhen????

Updated On: 8/22/05 at 05:47 AM

#150

re: How will Chris Columbus show the male-male kisses in RENT?

Posted: 8/22/05 at 5:55am

i wonder if art knows that Jonathan Larson was a heterosexual.
"Do you know what pledge time is, Andrew"? said the PBS Executive. "Yes", Lloyd Webber replied. "My 50th birthday special must be one program that gets done a lot." "No", mused the man from PBS heedlessy. "Not so much. Our Stephen Sondheim Carnegie Hall concert. That's a big one." Spoons, forks and knives seemed suddenly to suspend their motion in horror, all around the table.

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